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Druid or White DragonSpawn LoreDrake Kobold
« on: July 04, 2010, 03:21:23 AM »
I was recently full attacked by a white dragon and died.  I'm starting a new PC at 6th level, no 3.0, 2 flaws/traits, 10k gold.

I'm thinking of either doing a regular druid taking leadership(not sure what cohort, suggestions would rock)

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a Venerable White Dragon Spawn Lore Drake Kobold Sorcerer with kung-fu grip.

I could take leadership for a 2nd Venerable White Dragon Spawn Lore Drake Kobold Sorcerer sans the kung-fu grip.

What say you MinMax board, for the purposes of wtfpwnage which is the preferred method.
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Re: Druid or White DragonSpawn LoreDrake Kobold
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2010, 03:34:11 AM »
In general the loredrake will server your over all power more, but people tend to look down upon it for the cheese level.

Druid would give you more options and certainly be better for surviving further dragon attacks.

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Re: Druid or White DragonSpawn LoreDrake Kobold
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2010, 01:23:19 PM »
Loredrake Steel Dragon Sorcerer.
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Re: Druid or White DragonSpawn LoreDrake Kobold
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2010, 03:10:18 PM »
Loredrake Steel Dragon Sorcerer.

Or tome dragon for more spellcasting.

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Re: Druid or White DragonSpawn LoreDrake Kobold
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2010, 03:24:31 PM »
update, DM says no to LA Buyoff, do I still need white dragonspawn for anything or can I safely ditch it since there's no real gain from taking it(or does it qualify for a feat somewhere else?), though I do like the +7 NA

how would steel dragon benefit me?

I'm thinking Sorcerer5or6/Incantatrix10 <-already god so who cares what's after :D


no access to tome dragon :(
« Last Edit: July 04, 2010, 03:34:46 PM by xeno121 »
First off, the Joker is a smooth operator. He is very good at convincing people of things, twisting them to further his goals. This is the guy who turned Harvy Dent into Two Face with a simple Bluff check and ten minutes of RP.

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Re: Druid or White DragonSpawn LoreDrake Kobold
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2010, 04:55:14 PM »
Steel Dragon gives all cleric spells as arcane. 4HD, cast as a level 3 sorcerer, and then onwards and outwards!!

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Re: Druid or White DragonSpawn LoreDrake Kobold
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2010, 05:18:28 PM »
Is white dragonspawn worth it without LA buyoff?

also, wings of flurry or polymorph  :banghead
« Last Edit: July 04, 2010, 06:15:35 PM by xeno121 »
First off, the Joker is a smooth operator. He is very good at convincing people of things, twisting them to further his goals. This is the guy who turned Harvy Dent into Two Face with a simple Bluff check and ten minutes of RP.

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Re: Druid or White DragonSpawn LoreDrake Kobold
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2010, 07:51:21 PM »
also, wings of flurry or polymorph  :banghead

Polymorph, incredible versatility, defense, and melee offensive abilities.

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Re: Druid or White DragonSpawn LoreDrake Kobold
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2010, 07:51:35 PM »
Is white dragonspawn worth it without LA buyoff?

Heck yeah.

Or you could just keep playing your character after he dies.  That would be cool too.
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Re: Druid or White DragonSpawn LoreDrake Kobold
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2010, 08:27:05 PM »
Is white dragonspawn worth it without LA buyoff?
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Re: Druid or White DragonSpawn LoreDrake Kobold
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2010, 12:17:48 AM »
what school should I sacrifice as an Incantatrix? 
First off, the Joker is a smooth operator. He is very good at convincing people of things, twisting them to further his goals. This is the guy who turned Harvy Dent into Two Face with a simple Bluff check and ten minutes of RP.

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Re: Druid or White DragonSpawn LoreDrake Kobold
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2010, 01:33:41 AM »
Transmutation. To give the world a chance.

Abjuration & Transmutation are 100% off the list of possibilities though. You are the incantatrix and those are your buffs.
Evocation also, it has your wings of spells.
Which leaves Necro's debuffing & undead, Enchantment's save or be my slave, or Illusion's trickery.

I banned illusion on my last caster and it worked ok. Loss of Shadow is ignorable unless you are a gnome, loss of invisibility just means someone else casts it, same with tricking people with images.

Tiers explained in 8 sentences. With examples!
[spoiler]Tiers break down into who has spellcasting more than anything else due to spells being better than anything else in the game.
6: Skill based. Commoner, Expert, Samurai.
5: Mundane warrior. Barbarian, Fighter, Monk.
4: Partial casters. Adapt, Hexblade, Paladin, Ranger, Spelltheif.
3: Focused casters. Bard, Beguiler, Dread Necromancer, Martial Adapts, Warmage.
2: Full casters. Favored Soul, Psion, Sorcerer, Wu Jen.
1: Elitists. Artificer, Cleric, Druid, Wizard.
0: Gods. StP Erudite, Illthid Savant, Pun-Pun, Rocks fall & you die.
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