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Re: Referencing a Large Library: Why the dislike?
« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2010, 08:47:27 PM »
Why would you have to look up the spell every time you cast something?  Sure, casters have a fuckton of options, that's why they're so powerful, but everyone's got a few bread and butter tactics they will use most often, and those should be easy enough to memorize through repetition.  How many times do you have to lay down stinking cloud + black tentacles before you can recite exactly what's going on without need for reference?
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Re: Referencing a Large Library: Why the dislike?
« Reply #41 on: June 13, 2010, 09:09:53 PM »
Yes, but there are the people who insist on bringing spells they don't know well to the table anyway.
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Re: Referencing a Large Library: Why the dislike?
« Reply #42 on: June 13, 2010, 09:12:14 PM »
Black tentacles brings in the grappling rules.

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Re: Referencing a Large Library: Why the dislike?
« Reply #43 on: June 13, 2010, 09:38:23 PM »
Well yes, the grappling rules suck ass, but even those can be done more or less by memory if they come up often enough.
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Re: Referencing a Large Library: Why the dislike?
« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2010, 01:08:31 AM »
Grapple rules are not so bad. Maybe you need it reexplained to you?
1. Declare to wish to grapple.
2. Provoke an AoO for said claim.
3. Foe rolls his attack compare vs your AC.
4. If he hits, the foe rolls damage.
5. Also if he hit the grapple failed, repeat from above.
6. Make a touch attack, compare to foe's AC.
7. If you didn't hit, fail and repeat from above.
8. Roll your grapple check (bab+str+bonuses+the size bonus the DM will tell you).
9. Foe rolls his, if he wins the grapple failed, repeat from number 1 again.
10. Congrats you are now holding him for one (or less) rounds so he has no dex to ac and cannot move away.
11. If the foe has a turn after yours, repeat steps 8 & 9.
12. On your next round, move into your opponent's square provoking AoOs from everyone (but the grabbed foe).
13A. Still in the grapple? You can make an attack, but only if it's a light weapons and you have -4 to your attack roll. Hope he had more than 18 dex...
13B. If your foe fails against your grapple check (opposed to his check) then you 'pin' him preventing speech and preventing him from attacking you back.

Did that help? I know it did me.
Now you know what to do, and that is to leave those rules the heck alone.
Me and grapple have gotten along great ever since ^_^
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Re: Referencing a Large Library: Why the dislike?
« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2010, 02:03:26 AM »
I find SpellGen helps immensely. 

But, I'm an extremely anal player -- my goal is always to have my turns at least move along as smoothly as humanly possible.  My gf has taught me the beauty of cribsheets:  w/ 20 minutes and Microsoft Word you can make an attractive single sheet that has notes for what all your powers do, reminders for various things, etc.  I am crazy about that w/ Star Wars, since I don't know the system as well, and I have every single ability I use noted down in detail.  The whole thing takes up 1 page double-sided. 
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Re: Referencing a Large Library: Why the dislike?
« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2010, 04:39:25 PM »
dude stop making those XY: whats the dislike threads...
you are just sowing discord.
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