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Flashlights
« on: June 22, 2008, 05:23:39 PM »
I recently reread an old thread that dicussed the difference between a little household flashlight and the industrial 5cell MagLight.  I figured a quick table of flashlights as weapons could come in handy


Flashlight Type 
Plastic 2cell
Plastic Lantern
MiniMag
Maglight 2cell
Maglight 3cell
Maglight 4cell
Maglight 5cell
Maglight 6cell
Purch
PDC1
PDC2
PDC4
PDC5
PDC6
PDC6
PDC7
PDC7
Dmg 
1d2
1d2+1
1d2
1d2
1d4
1d5
1d6
1d6
CritRange
10 ft
5ft
15ft
10 ft
5ft
5ft


Wt 
1
2
0.5
1.4
1.8
2.4
2.8
3.2

Imp, Bash
Imp, Bash
Imp, Bash
Imp, Bash
Simple Bash
Simple Bash
Simple Bash
Simple Bash& 
+1 vs Armor
Flaring
DC10, 1
DC15, 2
DC10, 1
DC14, 1
DC15, 2
DC17, 2
DC18, 3
DC20, 3


Combat and Enviromental Activities
Tactical IluminationWith a successful Knowlege Tactics DC15 a Tactical Iluminator can most effectively use a flashlight in a low light combat situation.  The roll is modified by the quality of the flashlight, there is an Equipment Bonus equal to the lights Flaring Result (1,2,3).  A successfull Tactical Ilumination will reduce low light penalties by one category for all allies within 10' of the Tactical Iluminator.

Combat SpotlighterWith a successful FullRound Action Ranged Touch Attack, the Combat Spotlighter can focus his flashlight on a single target to Eliminate LowLight Penaties and grant a +1Tohit for all attakers of that target that round.  Because this spotlighting only works on otherwise dim targets, this is only usable whne there would otherwis be low light penalties.

Flashlight Flaring In low light environments, the focused beam of light may be used to "flare" the eyes of opponants.  Flaring may only be done at times when the ambient light would give penalties to the target.  Target makes a Reflex Save against the DC listed in the Flashlight table to keep their eyes out of the light.
Result A is 1rnd Dazzled
Result B is 1rnd Blinded, then 1rnd Dazzled
Result C is 2rnds Blinded, then 1rnd Dazzled


Let me know others that need to get listed, like the
20Cell Maglight, Under Flashlight Bayonet, and Under Flashlight Flashlight

« Last Edit: June 23, 2008, 12:10:12 AM by backstabbist »
When not specified, the gun is always a m1911
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Re: Flashlights
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2008, 07:58:48 PM »
Good stuff you got there. I can see this being very useful. Mind if I *snatch*?
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Re: Flashlights
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2008, 11:15:42 PM »
I vaguely entertained the idea of a Maglite w/ a Bayonet on it but that looks like one scary monster after Some Assembly Required. After ONE successfull attack, the victim would see his blood on the end of the blade and I would have him make a morale check EVERY ROUND till he died/submitted/won. That's almost like a Lightsaber. Great Holy Jeebus, Batman! He shat himself!!!!! :o
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Re: Flashlights
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2008, 11:30:37 PM »
You dont wanna know how close I was to the
40mm GrenadeLauncher tube under the Flashlight

Question:
Should Flashlight Flaring get a equipment benefit
if they put a Reflex Sight on the flashlight for better aim to blind folks?
When not specified, the gun is always a m1911
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Re: Flashlights
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2008, 06:41:12 PM »
Greetings.

I've actually seen a pepper spray canister that is designed to replace the butt cap on a Maglight flashlight. No bayonet, but it does fall into the category of non-lethal weapon.

I would suggest however you look into the world of LED flashlights. Maglight does make some but there are hundreds of other options available.

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Re: Flashlights
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2008, 07:29:29 PM »
This is satirical, right? Please?

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Re: Flashlights
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2008, 08:02:50 PM »
This is satirical, right? Please?

Here is a purpose built one:

http://www.flashlightreviews.com/reviews/tigerlight_gold.htm

Great review site as well.

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Re: Flashlights
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2008, 11:25:16 PM »
This is satirical, right? Please?

nuthin funny about a big beardy comming at you with an axe in the middle of the night,
and all you have is a flashlight & paper as you walk thru the woods looking for a spot to squat.

What does your character do?
Obviously we hit him with the flashlight,
and the GM wants to say the 5 D-battery maglight is 1d2 and 50% Break Chance.
Not any more, now you can show him the cute little red 1d2 light, and the 5cell BoneCrusher Maglight

I drove Dominos back in the day,
and while we were not allowed to carry weapons,
I stoppped many a drunk from getting stupid with my 5cell Maglight.

The 20cell & Bayonet are dependant on how cinematic your game is, and how permissive your GM is.
When not specified, the gun is always a m1911
Convetional spelling is for the Uncreative
5.7fn : Can a slug that only weighs 31gr still be called a slug?
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Re: Flashlights
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2008, 01:22:42 AM »
Ah Stabbist, this brightened up my day, I love your shenanigans and actually useful gimmicks all in one!

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Re: Flashlights
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2008, 02:45:32 AM »
I don't know what to say. I've been living in fairly big cities my whole life and my mouth and my shoes have always been my best defence against violence. But if it's contributing to your good time at the gaming table, far be it for me to try even dissuade you. Have at it, have fun!

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Re: Flashlights
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2008, 02:47:48 AM »
I was splitting a 3bedroom apartment,
and a roommate started saying stupid stuff about me keeping a MiniMag in the shower.
So the next day I reached into the bathroom & turned the light off while he was showering.  He was really pissed, but I asked what would he do if that was an earthquake/poweroutage..... then he saw the minimag in with the shampoos wasnt such a dumb idea.

<ps: the bathroom had no window, it was frickin black in there with the door closed>


LED's
I have only played withthe first gen of LED flashlights, and I was really not impressed.  I know they have gotten way better, but I havent messed with them.  So I need someone else to stat them along the lines of my table, and I'll add them in the top post crediting you <like the "Guest Gadgeteer" in my Wheelchair Gadgets Table>
When not specified, the gun is always a m1911
Convetional spelling is for the Uncreative
5.7fn : Can a slug that only weighs 31gr still be called a slug?
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If that procedure is beyond your ability,
just say so & I will go get a 12 year old little girl to do it for you.

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Re: Flashlights
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2008, 03:28:07 AM »
I was splitting a 3bedroom apartment, and a roommate started saying stupid stuff about me keeping a MiniMag in the shower.
So the next day I reached into the bathroom & turned the light off while he was showering.  He was really pissed, but I asked what would he do if that was an earthquake/poweroutage..... then he saw the minimag in with the shampoos wasnt such a dumb idea.

<ps: the bathroom had no window, it was frickin black in there with the door closed>


I had a friend at Bragg that used a Maglite as a Hostile Negotiation Tool while he was stationed in Germany. He gave a convincing arguement and a concussion. Even with the instance of power outages/earthquakes, I've been with this body going on 36 yrs and I'm pretty certain I remember where all the parts are (minus hangovers or under the influence). I still firmly believe in having a readily available light source within reach. That it doubles as a Extreme Thwacking Device or Trunk Monkey Implement just gives me little girl giggles :fan.

Wheelchair Gadgets Table

I'd be interested in the Fragmentation Value (like shrapnel) of a Wheel Chair. Ever since I read about various aid organizations giving disabled/handicapped/amputee people in Iraq wheelchairs, the possibility has never left my head. Maybe its my bias speaking but I wouldn't put it past the militant types over there to "take an item of goodwill and turn it into a destructive device against that hand that helps".

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Re: Flashlights
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2008, 04:21:49 AM »
Are you refering to the last item on the Wheelchair Gadgets list>?

Combine that with the TransporterRockets, and the EjectionSeat...
<oh, I just wish someone would use the EjectionSeat RemoteControl on a regular guy sitting in the chair.  It is one of those really hard to setup events, but man is it worth it..>
« Last Edit: July 04, 2008, 04:28:20 AM by backstabbist »
When not specified, the gun is always a m1911
Convetional spelling is for the Uncreative
5.7fn : Can a slug that only weighs 31gr still be called a slug?
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Re: Flashlights
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2008, 05:56:48 PM »
There's a reason why cops carried Maglites for so long.  A good 4- or 5-cell maglight is effectively a light mace.  Personally, I like the C-cell maglights, as they're a little more agile in the hand, and still deliver a rather crushing blow.

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Re: Flashlights
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2008, 04:51:34 PM »
Have you ever dropped a five cell mag light on you foot and I'm talking with a boot on from a dining room table after a truck with BASS speakers drove past... I had a decent bruise about a day later.... so a 5 Cell Mag light is a improvised club!