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Re: Post a simple concept, get a simple build
« Reply #540 on: August 07, 2011, 05:21:25 AM »
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Since Elan were originally humans, could you take the Human Heritage feat with one?
IIRC yes.
You certainly could, but toughness+troll blooded + human heritage is going to eat up all your starting feats.  I think the shade race/template thing from forgotten realms would work, but that's LA+3 and has baggage.  Lesser planetouched might or might not count as sufficiently human to not need human heritage (or the human heritage variant may be in play).  Oldschool Illumians are crazy powerful, but not really good flavorwise.
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Re: Post a simple concept, get a simple build
« Reply #541 on: August 07, 2011, 06:35:31 AM »
Well, Troll-Blooded is a stupid good feat, especially on an Elan.  Add in some Psionic class and you've got Regeneration against everything not Fire and Acid and a racial ability that blocks Fire and Acid damage as an immediate action.
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Re: Post a simple concept, get a simple build
« Reply #542 on: August 07, 2011, 08:54:25 AM »
I see, that should work. Thanks  :D
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Re: Post a simple concept, get a simple build
« Reply #543 on: August 07, 2011, 09:09:49 PM »
Quote from: X-Codes on August 07, 2011, 06:35:31 AM
Well, Troll-Blooded is a stupid good feat, especially on an Elan.  Add in some Psionic class and you've got Regeneration against everything not Fire and Acid and a racial ability that blocks Fire and Acid damage as an immediate action.
I prefer becoming a saint to become immune to acid. As for immunity to fire... I know there's some easy way to get that. Best I can think of is the Blazing Berserker feat which gives you the [Fire] subtype while raging, or have someone cast the 8th level spell mantle of the fiery spirit on you.
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Re: Post a simple concept, get a simple build
« Reply #544 on: August 08, 2011, 02:49:16 AM »
Quote from: Prime32 on August 07, 2011, 09:09:49 PM
Quote from: X-Codes on August 07, 2011, 06:35:31 AM
Well, Troll-Blooded is a stupid good feat, especially on an Elan.  Add in some Psionic class and you've got Regeneration against everything not Fire and Acid and a racial ability that blocks Fire and Acid damage as an immediate action.
I prefer becoming a saint to become immune to acid. As for immunity to fire... I know there's some easy way to get that. Best I can think of is the Blazing Berserker feat which gives you the [Fire] subtype while raging, or have someone cast the 8th level spell mantle of the fiery spirit on you.
True, but Troll-Blooded Elans have no LA, no code of conduct, and can be pretty much any kind of character.
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Re: Post a simple concept, get a simple build
« Reply #545 on: August 08, 2011, 03:32:58 AM »
Quote from: Prime32 on August 07, 2011, 09:09:49 PM
Quote from: X-Codes on August 07, 2011, 06:35:31 AM
Well, Troll-Blooded is a stupid good feat, especially on an Elan.  Add in some Psionic class and you've got Regeneration against everything not Fire and Acid and a racial ability that blocks Fire and Acid damage as an immediate action.
I prefer becoming a saint to become immune to acid. As for immunity to fire... I know there's some easy way to get that. Best I can think of is the Blazing Berserker feat which gives you the [Fire] subtype while raging, or have someone cast the 8th level spell mantle of the fiery spirit on you.

I often see cited that if a creature has regeneration, pierced by X and/or Y, if you get immunity to either X or Y, then you take lethal damage and regeneration instead starts working like Fast Healing. Where is this located?
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Re: Post a simple concept, get a simple build
« Reply #546 on: August 08, 2011, 03:46:19 AM »
Quote from: brujon on August 08, 2011, 03:32:58 AM
Quote from: Prime32 on August 07, 2011, 09:09:49 PM
Quote from: X-Codes on August 07, 2011, 06:35:31 AM
Well, Troll-Blooded is a stupid good feat, especially on an Elan.  Add in some Psionic class and you've got Regeneration against everything not Fire and Acid and a racial ability that blocks Fire and Acid damage as an immediate action.
I prefer becoming a saint to become immune to acid. As for immunity to fire... I know there's some easy way to get that. Best I can think of is the Blazing Berserker feat which gives you the [Fire] subtype while raging, or have someone cast the 8th level spell mantle of the fiery spirit on you.

I often see cited that if a creature has regeneration, pierced by X and/or Y, if you get immunity to either X or Y, then you take lethal damage and regeneration instead starts working like Fast Healing. Where is this located?
If you lose your Con score, then Regen changes to Fast Healing.  This is because creatures without Con scores become immune to nonlethal damage by virtue of their typing.
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Re: Post a simple concept, get a simple build
« Reply #547 on: August 08, 2011, 11:00:52 AM »
Tyrion Lannister?
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Re: Post a simple concept, get a simple build
« Reply #548 on: August 08, 2011, 12:49:25 PM »
Quote from: braininthejar on August 08, 2011, 11:00:52 AM
Tyrion Lannister?
People here then to like links or a basic description.
A halfling Aristocrat seems close enough, unless I'm missing something.
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Re: Post a simple concept, get a simple build
« Reply #549 on: August 08, 2011, 01:35:54 PM »
ah, I thought everyone knew him, since he is in fashion now.

I guess, I got what I asked for... a simple build. :lol
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Re: Post a simple concept, get a simple build
« Reply #550 on: August 20, 2011, 05:56:18 PM »
So, by this logic Arya would simply be a rogue?
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Re: Post a simple concept, get a simple build
« Reply #551 on: August 20, 2011, 06:13:08 PM »
Quote from: braininthejar on August 20, 2011, 05:56:18 PM
So, by this logic Arya would simply be a rogue?
Rouge, Possibly with aristocrat and/or Assassin. Not sure how to do the skinchanger thing (maybe variant chaining, If it would work), but wild Cohort would cover Nymeria.
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Re: Post a simple concept, get a simple build
« Reply #552 on: August 21, 2011, 01:09:46 AM »
I have to ask, Ryuk from Deathnote? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryuk_(Death_Note) aargh... i don't think it will accept the ) as part of the link, i suck at this.
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Quote from: Bozwevial on August 21, 2011, 10:28:37 PM
That was somewhat misleading on my part. Think of it as self-confidence, self-image, the ego, and other such things, not people skills. Someone with a low Charisma who goes insane is probably suffering crippling self-doubt or has a skewed perception of him/herself (or, given the power of the entities in the Cthulhu mythos, an accurate perception of his or her place in the universe).

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Re: Post a simple concept, get a simple build
« Reply #553 on: August 21, 2011, 02:47:52 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryuk_(Death_Note) (press the "quote" button to see what I did there. The url tag button is on the second row, next to email and under underline)
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Re: Post a simple concept, get a simple build
« Reply #554 on: August 21, 2011, 08:35:50 PM »
Some sort of Dark- or Shadow-templated Outsider with a high-level artifact.  Or maybe levels in Archivist?

Ryuk doesn't really... DO anything.
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Re: Post a simple concept, get a simple build
« Reply #555 on: August 24, 2011, 11:21:53 PM »
The ability to extend your lifespan by stealing other people's destiny is rather unique... perhaps planescape has something that could be used here. I remember there was a sect there focused on extending one's life through dubious means.

Also, do you think a person killed by deathnote can be ressurected or will "maximum lifespan" clause come into effect?

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Rouge, Possibly with aristocrat and/or Assassin. Not sure how to do the skinchanger thing (maybe variant chaining, If it would work), but wild Cohort would cover Nymeria.

Instead of Aristocrat, a Noble (PC class from dragonlance setting) could be used. But Arya didn't show any skills connected to those. Also, having Nymeria is a symptom of being an untrained skinchanger - at one point Arya managed to compensate for temporary blindness by borrowing sight from a nearby cat. Any way of doing it without having to take an entire class for it?
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Re: Post a simple concept, get a simple build
« Reply #556 on: August 24, 2011, 11:38:01 PM »
Quote from: braininthejar on August 24, 2011, 11:21:53 PM
Also, do you think a person killed by deathnote can be ressurected or will "maximum lifespan" clause come into effect?
There name is still wrritten in the death note, so they'll just die again in 6 minutes and 40 seconds.

Quote from: braininthejar on August 24, 2011, 11:21:53 PM
Also, having Nymeria is a symptom of being an untrained skinchanger - at one point Arya managed to compensate for temporary blindness by borrowing sight from a nearby cat. Any way of doing it without having to take an entire class for it?
Not that I know off.
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In other words, he thinks there's a "correct" way to play D&D.  *sigh*
There is: Kill shit and loot the corpse!
Quote from: BrokeAndDrive on July 01, 2010, 05:34:22 PM
When you use a tool the way it was designed for -- its intended function -- then it will work very well for you.

But it's not the tool's fault if you use it for something else and you fail utterly, such as trying to eat cereal with a butterknife, pounding nails with a screwdriver, blogging to voice your political opinions, and brushing your teeth with a hammer.
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Re: Post a simple concept, get a simple build
« Reply #557 on: August 25, 2011, 12:31:27 AM »
Quote from: braininthejar on August 24, 2011, 11:21:53 PM
Also, do you think a person killed by deathnote can be ressurected or will "maximum lifespan" clause come into effect?


I'm pretty sure that if you are killed by a death note then your time is up.  :D
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Re: Post a simple concept, get a simple build
« Reply #558 on: August 25, 2011, 01:02:49 AM »
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Re: Post a simple concept, get a simple build
« Reply #559 on: August 25, 2011, 03:19:22 PM »
Quote from: braininthejar on August 24, 2011, 11:21:53 PM
Also, do you think a person killed by deathnote can be ressurected or will "maximum lifespan" clause come into effect?

I can see 3 results here:

1: it doesn't work, b/c the Deathnote overwrites the normal mazimum lifespan

2: it works, but they die again in 6 minutes 40 seconds

3: it works, and the shinigami loses the lifespan he gained from the kill.
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Quote from: Bozwevial on August 21, 2011, 10:28:37 PM
That was somewhat misleading on my part. Think of it as self-confidence, self-image, the ego, and other such things, not people skills. Someone with a low Charisma who goes insane is probably suffering crippling self-doubt or has a skewed perception of him/herself (or, given the power of the entities in the Cthulhu mythos, an accurate perception of his or her place in the universe).
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