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Re: Ask a simple question: Monty Python edition
« Reply #220 on: May 18, 2010, 02:42:55 PM »
You can always charge as a standard action if you're limited to only taking a standard action in a round.  You're restricted to your move speed instead of double your move speed, though.

Cometary Collision (PHB2) will let you charge as a standard action when you're not restricted to only a standard action, but with some relatively strict conditions.
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Re: Ask a simple question: Monty Python edition
« Reply #221 on: May 18, 2010, 02:54:05 PM »
Q48 Is there a feat that allows you to charge as part of a standard action?  

I've done a search both on the WoTC site and Realms Helps, but couldn't find anything.  I'm pretty sure the people who mentioned it last night were confusing the effects of another feat but I'd like to be sure.
Battlejump (Unapproachable East, iirc)? 

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Re: Ask a simple question: Monty Python edition
« Reply #222 on: May 18, 2010, 02:59:50 PM »
You can always charge as a standard action if you're limited to only taking a standard action in a round.  You're restricted to your move speed instead of double your move speed, though.

Cometary Collision (PHB2) will let you charge as a standard action when you're not restricted to only a standard action, but with some relatively strict conditions.

Yes, those are the only ways I could think of as well, but neither would apply to the situation the people were talking about.  Even the ToB charge maneuvers are Full Round actions.

Edit:  Yes, Battlejump would qualify as well.  This might be the feat they're thinking of, but not using correctly.
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Re: Ask a simple question: Monty Python edition
« Reply #223 on: May 18, 2010, 03:10:55 PM »
Q48 Is there a feat that allows you to charge as part of a standard action?  

I've done a search both on the WoTC site and Realms Helps, but couldn't find anything.  I'm pretty sure the people who mentioned it last night were confusing the effects of another feat but I'd like to be sure.
Battlejump (Unapproachable East, iirc)? 
In 3.0 you could do a partial charge as a standard/partial action. In 3.5, you can only do this if you are restricted to a single standard/move action.
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Re: Ask a simple question: Monty Python edition
« Reply #224 on: May 18, 2010, 03:16:50 PM »

Q48 Is there a feat that allows you to charge as part of a standard action? 

I've done a search both on the WoTC site and Realms Helps, but couldn't find anything.  I'm pretty sure the people who mentioned it last night were confusing the effects of another feat but I'd like to be sure.

There are a pair of boots in the MIC that lets you charge as a standard action, the boots of the battle charger. They are pretty cheap as well.

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Re: Ask a simple question: Monty Python edition
« Reply #225 on: May 18, 2010, 03:31:11 PM »

Q48 Is there a feat that allows you to charge as part of a standard action? 

I've done a search both on the WoTC site and Realms Helps, but couldn't find anything.  I'm pretty sure the people who mentioned it last night were confusing the effects of another feat but I'd like to be sure.

There are a pair of boots in the MIC that lets you charge as a standard action, the boots of the battle charger. They are pretty cheap as well.

So unless there was something obscure in a Dragon Magazine, I'm pretty confident I was correct last night.  There is no feat that would allow what was described last night.  A monster taking a move action to move away from their target, then charging as a standard action. 

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Re: Ask a simple question: Monty Python edition
« Reply #226 on: May 18, 2010, 03:35:41 PM »

Q48 Is there a feat that allows you to charge as part of a standard action? 

I've done a search both on the WoTC site and Realms Helps, but couldn't find anything.  I'm pretty sure the people who mentioned it last night were confusing the effects of another feat but I'd like to be sure.

There are a pair of boots in the MIC that lets you charge as a standard action, the boots of the battle charger. They are pretty cheap as well.

So unless there was something obscure in a Dragon Magazine, I'm pretty confident I was correct last night.  There is no feat that would allow what was described last night.  A monster taking a move action to move away from their target, then charging as a standard action. 

Not so much, no. But you can use Travel Devotion or Martial Study to the same effect, as both can get you the ability to move as a Swift Action. Travel Devotion is best.
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Re: Ask a simple question: Monty Python edition
« Reply #227 on: May 18, 2010, 03:36:53 PM »

Q48 Is there a feat that allows you to charge as part of a standard action? 

I've done a search both on the WoTC site and Realms Helps, but couldn't find anything.  I'm pretty sure the people who mentioned it last night were confusing the effects of another feat but I'd like to be sure.

There are a pair of boots in the MIC that lets you charge as a standard action, the boots of the battle charger. They are pretty cheap as well.

So unless there was something obscure in a Dragon Magazine, I'm pretty confident I was correct last night.  There is no feat that would allow what was described last night.  A monster taking a move action to move away from their target, then charging as a standard action. 

Sounds like a single charge, but with turns in the middle.
I can only think of a Drunken Master's 'Stagger' at the moment, but I'm sure there are other ways to get it.

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Re: Ask a simple question: Monty Python edition
« Reply #228 on: May 18, 2010, 03:39:34 PM »

Q48 Is there a feat that allows you to charge as part of a standard action? 

I've done a search both on the WoTC site and Realms Helps, but couldn't find anything.  I'm pretty sure the people who mentioned it last night were confusing the effects of another feat but I'd like to be sure.

There are a pair of boots in the MIC that lets you charge as a standard action, the boots of the battle charger. They are pretty cheap as well.

So unless there was something obscure in a Dragon Magazine, I'm pretty confident I was correct last night.  There is no feat that would allow what was described last night.  A monster taking a move action to move away from their target, then charging as a standard action. 

Not so much, no. But you can use Travel Devotion or Martial Study to the same effect, as both can get you the ability to move as a Swift Action. Travel Devotion is best.
Yeah, Travel Devotion would allow that.
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Re: Ask a simple question: Monty Python edition
« Reply #229 on: May 18, 2010, 03:43:07 PM »

Q48 Is there a feat that allows you to charge as part of a standard action? 

I've done a search both on the WoTC site and Realms Helps, but couldn't find anything.  I'm pretty sure the people who mentioned it last night were confusing the effects of another feat but I'd like to be sure.

There are a pair of boots in the MIC that lets you charge as a standard action, the boots of the battle charger. They are pretty cheap as well.

So unless there was something obscure in a Dragon Magazine, I'm pretty confident I was correct last night.  There is no feat that would allow what was described last night.  A monster taking a move action to move away from their target, then charging as a standard action. 

Sounds like a single charge, but with turns in the middle.
I can only think of a Drunken Master's 'Stagger' at the moment, but I'm sure there are other ways to get it.

A skill trick too. A feat? Not so sure.

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Re: Ask a simple question: Monty Python edition
« Reply #230 on: May 18, 2010, 03:51:13 PM »
There is a feat: Psionic Charge.  Requires expending your psionic focus to use, though.
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Re: Ask a simple question: Monty Python edition
« Reply #231 on: May 18, 2010, 04:31:22 PM »
Fleet of Foot from CW lets you make up to a 90 degree turn as part of a charge.
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Re: Ask a simple question: Monty Python edition
« Reply #232 on: May 18, 2010, 04:31:50 PM »
Q49

Can a dragonwrought kobold be of Force Dragon lineage?

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So, if you mixed this with Dragonfire Inspiration and a ridiculous IC score, would that be as good as it sounds?
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Re: Ask a simple question: Monty Python edition
« Reply #233 on: May 18, 2010, 04:37:27 PM »
There is a feat: Psionic Charge.  Requires expending your psionic focus to use, though.
Fleet of Foot from CW lets you make up to a 90 degree turn as part of a charge.
That's what Psionic Charge does. That doesn't sound like what he's describing, though. Moving away and then charging would require a 180 degree turn.
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Re: Ask a simple question: Monty Python edition
« Reply #234 on: May 18, 2010, 04:38:22 PM »
Q49

Can a dragonwrought kobold be of Force Dragon lineage?

;3

Found it myself, yes!

So, if you mixed this with Dragonfire Inspiration and a ridiculous IC score, would that be as good as it sounds?
No, because Dragonfire Inspiration defaults to Fire in absence of a different energy type.  Force isn't an energy type.  Chaos Dragon ought to be fun, though, as it could be any energy type each time you activate it (albeit, you have no choice which it is)
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Re: Ask a simple question: Monty Python edition
« Reply #235 on: May 18, 2010, 04:41:53 PM »
There is a feat: Psionic Charge.  Requires expending your psionic focus to use, though.
Fleet of Foot from CW lets you make up to a 90 degree turn as part of a charge.
That's what Psionic Charge does. That doesn't sound like what he's describing, though. Moving away and then charging would require a 180 degree turn.

or two 90 degree turns

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Re: Ask a simple question: Monty Python edition
« Reply #236 on: May 18, 2010, 04:44:30 PM »
Q49

Can a dragonwrought kobold be of Force Dragon lineage?

;3

Found it myself, yes!

So, if you mixed this with Dragonfire Inspiration and a ridiculous IC score, would that be as good as it sounds?
No, because Dragonfire Inspiration defaults to Fire in absence of a different energy type.  Force isn't an energy type.  Chaos Dragon ought to be fun, though, as it could be any energy type each time you activate it (albeit, you have no choice which it is)

Ah, damn. Missed the little part that continues on the next column:(.

So I'm guessing Sonic is the best option then? So... like, emerald... or howling? or battle I guess? hmm.

Also, can anyone point me in the direction of good Bard/swiftblade or just melee bard optimization threads? the bard handbook linked earlier ends around the feat section.

The Swiftblade handbook had a few build ideas, but they were very brief(IE just class suggestions). I'm pretty new to bards in general so I'm kinda lost when it comes to feat choices etc. Also, most builds tend to incorporate flaws, which I cant:(
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Re: Ask a simple question: Monty Python edition
« Reply #237 on: May 18, 2010, 04:45:59 PM »
There is a feat: Psionic Charge.  Requires expending your psionic focus to use, though.
Fleet of Foot from CW lets you make up to a 90 degree turn as part of a charge.
That's what Psionic Charge does. That doesn't sound like what he's describing, though. Moving away and then charging would require a 180 degree turn.
Or he used the Diamond Mind manuever Bounding Assault.  Which can be gotten via a feat or item, if you have the pre-reqs.
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« Reply #238 on: May 18, 2010, 05:40:30 PM »
Chronocharm of the horizon walker would allow it, as well. What was the monster? Some of them get extra actions.
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Re: Ask a simple question: Monty Python edition
« Reply #239 on: May 18, 2010, 06:17:06 PM »
Q 50: Is there a way for a swift hunter ranger/scout with no other class levels to get some or all of his skirmish damage past immunity to criticals?
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