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Re: High powered Solo
« Reply #40 on: May 12, 2010, 06:44:37 PM »
look at the Build i made above .... it works even better

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Re: High powered Solo
« Reply #41 on: May 12, 2010, 07:40:52 PM »
That will be a strong character, what do you mean by double progression though?

You should consider trying a non full progression PrC for your manifesting side since you can take a psion level on the non-manifesting side to maintain manifesting.

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Re: High powered Solo
« Reply #42 on: May 12, 2010, 08:11:23 PM »
Can anyone say Metamind's Font of Power?
Hood - My first answer to all your build questions; past, present, and future.

Speaking of which:
Don't even need TO for this.  Any decent Hood build, especially one with Celerity, one-rounds [Azathoth, the most powerful greater deity from d20 Cthulu].
Does it bug anyone else that we've reached the point where characters who can obliterate a greater deity in one round are considered "decent?"

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Re: High powered Solo
« Reply #43 on: May 12, 2010, 09:29:06 PM »
I was thinking thrallherd, myself. 

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Re: High powered Solo
« Reply #44 on: May 12, 2010, 09:30:14 PM »
Guys, I had anawesome dragonwrought Kobold sorcerer cleric. My DM said something. He wants to try an Astral stalker DMPC  (eeesh I know, I won't let him steal the show) So he said LA buy off is ok and its allowable on both sides (a level 6 LA is split 3/3 and is bought off twice at level 9, 15 and 18 each for a end LA of 0). No Racial HD either.

Wow.

I immedialty scrapped my idea for an Ethergaunt.

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Warblade 20//Factotum (17 or 14)/Caster 3 (for 20)/Maybe Swashbuckler 3

Wait. Are you saying you're gonna be playing an Ethergaunt Something 20/Anything 20?

You did say starting level was 1, right? Did that change? Or do you actually start with the Ethergaunt abilities and LA on both sides at level 1? Or some later level?

edit: Specifically important is at what point you gain the Ethergaunt immunity to any 6th level or lower spell.

Anyway. Regarding healing as an undead: No need for Dread Necro. Just make Black Sand.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2010, 09:34:54 PM by Suzerain »

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Re: High powered Solo
« Reply #45 on: May 12, 2010, 09:38:20 PM »
Guys, I had anawesome dragonwrought Kobold sorcerer cleric. My DM said something. He wants to try an Astral stalker DMPC  (eeesh I know, I won't let him steal the show) So he said LA buy off is ok and its allowable on both sides (a level 6 LA is split 3/3 and is bought off twice at level 9, 15 and 18 each for a end LA of 0). No Racial HD either.

Wow.

I immedialty scrapped my idea for an Ethergaunt.

End:

Warblade 20//Factotum (17 or 14)/Caster 3 (for 20)/Maybe Swashbuckler 3

Wait. Are you saying you're gonna be playing an Ethergaunt Something 20/Anything 20?

You did say starting level was 1, right? Did that change? Or do you actually start with the Ethergaunt abilities and LA on both sides at level 1? Or some later level?

edit: Specifically important is at what point you gain the Ethergaunt immunity to any 6th level or lower spell.

Anyway. Regarding healing as an undead: No need for Dread Necro. Just make Black Sand.

I know the black sand trick, I'd use thrallherd but my leadership will be low as i only have 16 cha...

We decided to start higher as both races have a LA...

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Re: High powered Solo
« Reply #46 on: May 12, 2010, 09:44:54 PM »
Even with a 10 in charisma you still max out your thrall level. 

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Re: High powered Solo
« Reply #47 on: May 13, 2010, 12:06:18 AM »
Wait, you are right, but I lose two psionic levels...

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Re: High powered Solo
« Reply #48 on: May 13, 2010, 01:19:24 AM »
At the first and tenth levels of thrallherd, you gestalt it with psion.  That gives you full manifesting.  You have to give up 2 levels of warblade from the other side, but that only puts you one level behind for higher level maneuvers. 

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Re: High powered Solo
« Reply #49 on: May 13, 2010, 04:00:56 AM »
Thrallherd is THE psionic PrC.  It's like Incantatrix for a Wizard or Planar Shepherd for a Druid, though not automatically broken good.
Hood - My first answer to all your build questions; past, present, and future.

Speaking of which:
Don't even need TO for this.  Any decent Hood build, especially one with Celerity, one-rounds [Azathoth, the most powerful greater deity from d20 Cthulu].
Does it bug anyone else that we've reached the point where characters who can obliterate a greater deity in one round are considered "decent?"

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Re: High powered Solo
« Reply #50 on: May 13, 2010, 11:52:28 AM »
Thrallherd is THE psionic PrC.  It's like Incantatrix for a Wizard or Planar Shepherd for a Druid, though not automatically broken good.
If optimized, I'd argue it is actually more powerful than either of those, though, because you can have those guys as your thralls. :D And if you get bored with them, you can kill them off, and get someone to replace them the next day with no penalty! :lmao I think Thrallherd is arguably the most powerful PrC in the entire game if optimized well, just because it is Leadership Squared, and Leadership is hands down the most powerful feat in the game.
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Re: High powered Solo
« Reply #51 on: May 13, 2010, 12:00:15 PM »
Thrallherd is THE psionic PrC.  It's like Incantatrix for a Wizard or Planar Shepherd for a Druid, though not automatically broken good.
If optimized, I'd argue it is actually more powerful than either of those, though, because you can have those guys as your thralls. :D And if you get bored with them, you can kill them off, and get someone to replace them the next day with no penalty! :lmao I think Thrallherd is arguably the most powerful PrC in the entire game if optimized well, just because it is Leadership Squared, and Leadership is hands down the most powerful feat in the game.
well, you of all people would know. also, why not combine it with undead leadership, draconic cohort and landlord?
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Re: High powered Solo
« Reply #52 on: May 13, 2010, 01:01:55 PM »
Thrallherd is THE psionic PrC.  It's like Incantatrix for a Wizard or Planar Shepherd for a Druid, though not automatically broken good.
If optimized, I'd argue it is actually more powerful than either of those, though, because you can have those guys as your thralls. :D And if you get bored with them, you can kill them off, and get someone to replace them the next day with no penalty! :lmao I think Thrallherd is arguably the most powerful PrC in the entire game if optimized well, just because it is Leadership Squared, and Leadership is hands down the most powerful feat in the game.
well, you of all people would know. also, why not combine it with undead leadership, draconic cohort and landlord?
At which point you are no longer playing a PC, you are playing a nation.

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Re: High powered Solo
« Reply #53 on: May 13, 2010, 01:14:09 PM »
Thrallherd is THE psionic PrC.  It's like Incantatrix for a Wizard or Planar Shepherd for a Druid, though not automatically broken good.
If optimized, I'd argue it is actually more powerful than either of those, though, because you can have those guys as your thralls. :D And if you get bored with them, you can kill them off, and get someone to replace them the next day with no penalty! :lmao I think Thrallherd is arguably the most powerful PrC in the entire game if optimized well, just because it is Leadership Squared, and Leadership is hands down the most powerful feat in the game.
well, you of all people would know. also, why not combine it with undead leadership, draconic cohort and landlord?
At which point you are no longer playing a PC, you are playing a nation.
you say it like it's a bad thing. besides, if you build it right.... well fuck, you can do whatever the hell you want.
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Re: High powered Solo
« Reply #54 on: May 13, 2010, 06:52:35 PM »
At some point, D&D can turn from RPG to turn-based strategy a la Civilization.
Hood - My first answer to all your build questions; past, present, and future.

Speaking of which:
Don't even need TO for this.  Any decent Hood build, especially one with Celerity, one-rounds [Azathoth, the most powerful greater deity from d20 Cthulu].
Does it bug anyone else that we've reached the point where characters who can obliterate a greater deity in one round are considered "decent?"

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Re: High powered Solo
« Reply #55 on: May 13, 2010, 07:55:26 PM »
Thrallherd is THE psionic PrC.  It's like Incantatrix for a Wizard or Planar Shepherd for a Druid, though not automatically broken good.
If optimized, I'd argue it is actually more powerful than either of those, though, because you can have those guys as your thralls. :D And if you get bored with them, you can kill them off, and get someone to replace them the next day with no penalty! :lmao I think Thrallherd is arguably the most powerful PrC in the entire game if optimized well, just because it is Leadership Squared, and Leadership is hands down the most powerful feat in the game.
well, you of all people would know. also, why not combine it with undead leadership, draconic cohort and landlord?
If you're going that far you might as well play as a Dragonwrought kobold and grab Epic Leadership, Extra Followers, and Assemble the Horde.  :D I did that once.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2010, 09:22:04 PM by Bastian »

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Re: High powered Solo
« Reply #56 on: May 13, 2010, 10:27:39 PM »
Did you?

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Re: High powered Solo
« Reply #57 on: May 13, 2010, 11:29:18 PM »
Did you?
Yah, I was using most of them to make Ambrosia via my pain-to-pleasure trick.

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Re: High powered Solo
« Reply #58 on: May 13, 2010, 11:36:03 PM »
Lol, this campaign has me confused... I doubt it will get far if it starts. The DM added a new rule. This is what happens to our LA:

Lower it by 2 then you can split it on both sides and then the buyoff is done seperatly for each side. The campaign will probably not go far... I feel like trying a multi headed sharn with class levels in dragonfire adept... Only LA and HD on the other side... But w/e I already made the cahr sheet I'm staying with my ethergaunt.