Spell: Sense of the Dragon (RoDr) vs Darkstalker

[Hallack]

Sense of the Dragon: augments non-visual senses to allow the pinpointing of hidden creatures within 30 feet without a spot or listen roll.

Darkstalker: Forces heightened senses/abilities such as Blindsight, Blindsense, Scent, ect.. to require a spot/listen to notice a hidden creature.

Anybody been using this spell to overcome Darkstalker?  By RAW it seems it should even though it is an enhancement to the same senses (non-visual) that Darkstalker overcomes.

Seems that RAI could well be that the spell would be defeated by Darkstalker.  

What are your thoughts on these interactions?

{props to BlackKnight for this find, or at least my searches had not uncovered any discussions of it}

[Havok4]

SotD does overcome Darkstalker RAW you and black night have it right there, but the intent is obiously the other way around as sense of the dragon is apparently an emulation of a dragon's blindsense, as is apparent by the name, with some limitations which is something darkstalker explicitly overcomes.

[PhaedrusXY]

Was this spell updated in the Spell Compendium as Dragonsight?

Edit: I guess not. I think RAI Dark Stalker should certainly trump it. Both Dark Stalker and Mindsight are pains in the ass as both a player and DM, as are core things like Mindblank and True Seeing. I'm all for incorporating a little "checks and balances" by letting some of them trump the others.

[Black Knight]

Sense of the Dragon it turns out actually grants Blindsense, even though it doesn't call it that in the spell description (it gives the verbose version instead).

From RotD:
Sense of the Dragon

The subject gains augmented nonvisual senses out to a distance of 30 feet.  The subject does not need to make Spot or Listen checks to pinpoint the location of a creature within 30 feet, provided that it has line of effect to that creature.

Any opponent the subject cannot see still has total concealment against the recipient of this spell, and the subject still has the normal miss chance when attacking foes that have concealment.  Visibility still affects the movement of the subject, and the recipient of this spell is still denied its Dexterity bonus to Armor Class against attacks from creatures it cannot see.

From MM I:
Blindsense

Using nonvisual senses, such as acute smell or hearing, a creature with blindsense notices things it cannot see.  The creature usually does not need to make Spot or Listen checks to pinpoint the location of a creature within range of its blindsense ability, provided that it has line of effect to that creature. Any
opponent the creature cannot see still has total concealment against the creature with blindsense, and the creature still has the normal miss chance when attacking foes that have concealment.  Visibility still affects the movement of a creature with blindsense.  A creature with blindsense is still denied its Dexterity bonus to
Armor Class against attacks from creatures it cannot see.

[Havok4]

Odd, and although it is a equivalent ability with exactly the same rules it is arguable that it still trumps darkstalker as it is not explicitly called blindsight, but that is a stupidly literal way to interpret the abilities like given a monk non-proficiency penalties with their fists.

[Bozwevial]

I assume that Darkstalker specifically calls out the abilities it trumps? If so, then yeah, RAW SotD beats it. Of course, that just seems silly to me, and I'd let Darkstalker triumph.

[Hallack]

Yeah, strict RAW the spell trumps but as most have noted that would be pretty silly I think.

[Rymosrac]

Otherwise you have dragons casting sense of the dragon to gain a sense dragons don't have to overcome an ability that overcomes a dragon's senses.

[The_Mad_Linguist]

Otherwise you have dragons casting sense of the dragon to gain a sense dragons don't have to overcome an ability that overcomes a dragon's senses.

So?  Draconic polymorph doesn't automatically turn you into a dragon, right?

Seems like this has a similar arena application to touchsight, though.

[Rymosrac]

No point, I just saw an opportunity for a silly-sounding sentence. 

Certainly penetrates darkstalker RAW, and definitely useful for an arena application.