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Ivory Knight

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Re: Is there a min max section for the paladin?
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2010, 08:01:14 PM »
Now these last few builds aren't even pretending to be paladins, are they?

But I agree, Crusader/really any PrC that gets Paladin casting(Holy Liberator, Pious Templar, any divine/Prestige Paladin) is a better Holy Warrior Type.

Also Knight of the Raven(Expedition to Castle Ravenloft) works really well for this type of character.
Even Archivist or Cloistered Cleric qualifies by ECL 8.
Heck I've seen a build that used Spirit Shaman as an entry.

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Re: Is there a min max section for the paladin?
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2010, 08:28:44 PM »
Paladins also make for a nice Gestalt class :)

Paladin 16 // Sorcerer 5 / Abjurant Champion 4 / IotSFV 7

Make sure you take the Mystic Fire Knight ACF for the pally :D (You lose turn Undead, but it is worth it.)

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20051104a Mystic Fire Knight is half-way down the page.

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Re: Is there a min max section for the paladin?
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2010, 10:12:45 PM »
i always liked this one:

Bard 1/ Monk 2/ Paladin 17

Key feats: able learner (to keep up on perform and UMD), ascetic knight, devoted performer, initate of milee (sp).

You get the unarmed strike damage of a 19th level monk, smiting damage of a 20th level paladin, and the bardic music abilities of 18th level bard.

You also might want to consider the overwhemling attack monk variant from UA/SRD since it gets you power attack and improved bull rush, setting you up for shock trooper and divine might.

loads of fun and easy to play .... Very Strong

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Re: Is there a min max section for the paladin?
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2010, 10:15:15 PM »
paladin2/sorcerer4/spellsword1/abjurantchampion5/sacredexorcist8: 16 BAB, 18 CL, still has turn undead

yea but no DMM with it though

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Re: Is there a min max section for the paladin?
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2010, 10:18:42 PM »
paladin2/sorcerer4/spellsword1/abjurantchampion5/sacredexorcist8: 16 BAB, 18 CL, still has turn undead

yea but no DMM with it though
I think you can get it with a trick or two. Alternate Spell Source and/or Southern Magician?
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Re: Is there a min max section for the paladin?
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2010, 10:28:46 PM »
heres a fun one:

Bard 1/ Paladin 11/ Sublime Chord 2/ Abjurant Champion 5/ Sacred Exorcist 1

BAB +17
8th lvl Arcane Spells


use all Mystic Fire Knight sub lvls

feats:
Devoted Performer
Sword of the Arcane Order
Power Attack
Divine Might
Practiced Caster(Sublime Chord)

very strong ... and can Turn Undead


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Re: Is there a min max section for the paladin?
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2010, 10:34:33 PM »
Here's a couplr of more builds:

paladin of tyranny5/hexblade4/divinecrusader1/boneknight10: 16 BAB, 9th level spells in one domain, almost full mount progression, some debuffing ability

paladin5/pioustemplar4/divinecrusader1/fistofraziel10: 19 BAB, 9th level spells in one domain, 8 smites a day as a 19th level paladin with some extras

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Re: Is there a min max section for the paladin?
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2010, 10:42:23 PM »
i like Divine Crusader ... but would add it like this:

Paladin 5/ Pious Templar 4/ Divine Crusader 1/ Contemplative 1/ Knight of the Raven 9

Domains:
Sun(bonus from Knight of the Raven)
any/Luck (bonus from Contemplative)
Celestia Domain(Planar domain)[spoiler]Celestia Domain
Granted Power: Planar Handbook, page 87.
1 Light of Lunia. Planar Handbook, page 100.
1 Shield of Faith. Player’s Handbook, page 278.
2 Bear’s Endurance. Player’s Handbook, page 203.
2 Shield Other. Player’s Handbook, page 278.
3 Magic Vestment. Player’s Handbook, page 251.
3 Summon Monster III.* Player’s Handbook, page 286.
4 Divine Power. Player’s Handbook, page 224.
4 Magic Weapon, Greater. Player’s Handbook, page 251.
5 Righteous Might. Player’s Handbook, page 273.
5 Summon Monster V.* Player’s Handbook, page 286.
6 Blade Barrier. Player’s Handbook, page 205.
6 Bear’s Endurance, Mass. Player’s Handbook, page 203.
7 Regenerate. Player’s Handbook, page 270.
7 Summon Monster VII.* Player’s Handbook, page 287.
8 Power Word Stun. Player’s Handbook, page 263.
8 Shield of Law. Player’s Handbook, page 278.
9 Foresight. Player’s Handbook, page 233.
9 Summon Monster IX.* Player’s Handbook, page 288.
* Cast as a lawful good spell only.
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Re: Is there a min max section for the paladin?
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2010, 06:15:31 AM »
i like Divine Crusader ... but would add it like this:

Paladin 5/ Pious Templar 4/ Divine Crusader 1/ Contemplative 1/ Knight of the Raven 9

Domains:
Sun(bonus from Knight of the Raven)
any/Luck (bonus from Contemplative)
Celestia Domain(Planar domain)[spoiler]Celestia Domain
Granted Power: Planar Handbook, page 87.
1 Light of Lunia. Planar Handbook, page 100.
1 Shield of Faith. Player’s Handbook, page 278.
2 Bear’s Endurance. Player’s Handbook, page 203.
2 Shield Other. Player’s Handbook, page 278.
3 Magic Vestment. Player’s Handbook, page 251.
3 Summon Monster III.* Player’s Handbook, page 286.
4 Divine Power. Player’s Handbook, page 224.
4 Magic Weapon, Greater. Player’s Handbook, page 251.
5 Righteous Might. Player’s Handbook, page 273.
5 Summon Monster V.* Player’s Handbook, page 286.
6 Blade Barrier. Player’s Handbook, page 205.
6 Bear’s Endurance, Mass. Player’s Handbook, page 203.
7 Regenerate. Player’s Handbook, page 270.
7 Summon Monster VII.* Player’s Handbook, page 287.
8 Power Word Stun. Player’s Handbook, page 263.
8 Shield of Law. Player’s Handbook, page 278.
9 Foresight. Player’s Handbook, page 233.
9 Summon Monster IX.* Player’s Handbook, page 288.
* Cast as a lawful good spell only.
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There's another fun looking build.

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Re: Is there a min max section for the paladin?
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2010, 07:40:35 AM »
cheers for that guys I asked simply because I like the flavour of the class and I just ntoiced they were absent. I noted the crusader was a better class but some of the players we have in our group will not allow tome of battle citing it as being over powered........ yet they have no problem with me as a cleric or druid this is largely because one of our group members tryed tome of battle and appeared over powered while with clerics and druids I tend to focus on buffs heals and support magic so thier ability is not as immediately obvious

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Re: Is there a min max section for the paladin?
« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2010, 01:31:27 PM »
@benjiamon:
I bet your pals won't mind you playin a War Weaver, it's powerful but in a sneaky way(just buffs) :smirk
War Weaver Guidebook has a few fun builds(including a Knight of the Weave/Ultimate Magus^^).

@topic:
Could a Paladin ~11 get into Dragonlance War Mage?
Thought so, if SotAO counts as arcane casting.
Not good, just fits the Paladin as Protector ;)

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Re: Is there a min max section for the paladin?
« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2010, 03:53:23 AM »
cheers that class is cool thanks again to all of you guys