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Human Sorcerer 5 / War Mage 5 / Fiend-Blooded 3
Human Sorcerer 5 / War Mage 5 / Fiend-Blooded 4 / Archmage 2 / Ultimate Magus 1 / Archmage +3

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Sources:
Stormwrack - Stormwalk (Spell).
Heroes of Horror - Blood Calls to Blood (Feat), Fiend-Blooded (PrC), Pact of Return (Spell).
Age of Mortals - War Mage (PrC).
Frostburn - Snow Goggles (Item), Rimefire Ice (Material), Blue Ice (Material), Snowcasting (Feat), Frozen Magic (Feat), Cold Spell Specialization (Feat), Control Temperature (Spell), Ice Shield (Spell), Boreal Wind (Spell), Freezing Glance (Spell), Snowsong (Spell).
Complete Mage - Primal Essence (Item), Rod of Elemental Might (Item), Ring of Enduring Arcana (Item), Spellguard Ring (Item), Shieldstone Cavern (Magical Location), Rainbow Falls (Magical Location), Metamagic Storm (Magical Location), Vale of Smoke and Fog (Magical Location), Stalwart Sorcerer (Alternate Class Feature), Energy Gestalt (Feat), Retributive Spell (Feat), Residual Magic (Feat), True Casting (Spell), Spellcaster's Bane (Spell), Heart of Water (Spell), Suppressing Field (Spell), Arcane Fusion (Spell).
PHB2 - Arcane Thesis (Feat), Mirror Image (Greater) (Spell).
DMG2 - Heart of Ice (Magical Location), Hellforged (Armor Template).[/spoiler]


Stat Block:
Medium Humanoid [Air]
Speaks Common, Giant, Draconic
Improved Low-Light Vision, Darkvision 210', Blindsense 105'
Initiative: +7/+12 (Nerveskitter)
HP: 118 (Fast Healing 1) (40 HD + 26 Stalwart Sorcerer + 52 CON)
DR: 15/- (150)
AC: 42 / 27 Touch / 39 Flat-Footed (10 Base + 3 DEX + 1 NA + 6 Armor + 3 Shield + 10 Morale + 4 Insight + 5 Dragonskin) +5 vs. Ranged
Saves: +23 (+33) Fort / +18 (+28) Ref / +20 (+30) Will (7.16/4.33/8.5 Base + 4/3/1 Ability + 6/6/6 Resistance + 5/5/5 Morale)
Weak: Fire (150% Damage)
Resist: Fire 30, Lightning 30, Acid 20, Cold 15, Sonic 10, +2 vs. Cold, +2 vs. Blinding, +1 vs. Poison, -1 Poison Damage
Immune: Poison, Sleep, Paralysis, Stunning, Critical Hits, Flanking
Attack: +11 Ranged Touch Spell (6.5 BAB + 3 DEX + 4 Morale - 2 Magical Fascination)
Speed: Base 30', Fly 60' (Perfect)

Abilities:
STR 8
DEX 16 (14 + 2 Enhancement)
CON 18 (16 + 2 Enhancement)
INT 14
WIS 12
CHA 30 (18 + 3 Level + 1 Fiendish Heritage + 4 Enhancement + 4 Morale)

Alternate Class Features:
Stalwart Sorcerer +26 HP, -7th level Spell Known.
Metamagic Specialist 5/day

Feats:
Heroics - Improved Initiative
Flaw (Magical Fascination) - Spell Focus (Evocation)
1B - Eschew Materials
H - Snowcasting
1st - Frozen Magic
3rd - Cold Spell Specialization
5B - Energy Gestalt
6th - Combat Casting
7B - Retributive Spell
9th - Blood Calls to Blood
9B - Empower Spell
12th - Skill Focus (Spellcraft)
15th - Residual Magic
18th - Arcane Thesis (Maw of Chaos)


Caster Level 19 (13 Base + 1 Heart of Ice + 2 Frozen Magic + 2 Rod + 1 Tattoo)
Spell Penetration 22 +10 Assay Spell Resistance, +10 True Casting
DC: 26, +1 Evocation/Transmutation/Cold
Spells Known (Anticipate Teleportation 1/day, Dragonsight 1/day, Superior Resistance 1/day, Elemental Body 1/day):Acid Sheath (30)Stormwalk, Ruby Ray of ReversalStalwart Sorcerer, Pact of Return, Forcecage, Ice Claw (CL+CHA+12 Grapple), Elemental Body.
8th - Arcane Fusion (Greater), Chain Dispel (+23/+27), Invisibility (Superior), Moment of Prescience, Discern Location.
9th - Maw of Chaos, Time Stop, Replicate Casting, Stalwart Sorcerer.


Fiendish Sorcery:
6th - Snowsong
7th - Pact of Return

High Arcana:
Mastery of Elements - 8th
Mastery of Shaping - 6th
Spell Power - 5th
Spell Power - 5th
Spell Power - 5th


Items (110,000):Skill Points (80):
-2 Magical Fascination
+26 Concentration (16 Ranks + 4 CON + 4 Combat Casting + 2 Tool)
+25 Spellcraft (16 Ranks + 2 INT + 3 Skill Focus + 2 Synergy + 2 Tool)
+20 Use Magic Device (16 (8) Ranks + 10 CHA + 2 Tool)
+20 Knowledge (Arcana) (16 Ranks + 2 INT + 2 Tool)
+14 Knowledge (The Planes) (10 Ranks + 2 INT + 2 Tool)
+10 Craft (Painting) (6 Ranks + 2 INT + 2 Tool)

Friendly Druid Buffs:
Cloud Wings - 2nd

[spoiler]Books:
1 - Age of Mortals
2 - Frostburn
3 - Complete Mage
4 - Heroes of Horror
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PHB1+2
DMG1+2
MM1
SpC
MIC
UA[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Allies:
Shadowpouncer!
Arcane Hierophant!

Spells to Replace:
1st - [/spoiler]
« Last Edit: June 04, 2010, 02:32:39 PM by CantripN »
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Re: Sorcerous Blaster Galore! And now with a zangy Archmage Flavor!
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2010, 03:50:50 AM »
Quick question: How are you meeting the "Must be a specialist wizard" requirement of Master Specialist?
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Re: Sorcerous Blaster Galore! And now with a zangy Archmage Flavor!
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2010, 04:21:01 AM »
Same question for Sherem-Lar Sorcery and Sherezem-Lar Sorcery, since they require "female human member of a Bazareene noble family"

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Re: Sorcerous Blaster Galore! And now with a zangy Archmage Flavor!
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2010, 05:23:53 AM »
I was looking for how you managed Anyspell. Doesn't it say in the description of those spells that you prepare them in your domain slot? I know you too the ACF so you could learn spells from domains, but how did you acquire a domain slot? Were domain slots included in the ACF? If I just missed it I apologize.

Even if I didn't miss it and it isn't there, I would absolutely be game for modifying Anyspells' descriptions so they didn't require domain slots were I the GM or a player with the ear of the GM. Although that's largely because my groups never have strong casters (I'm usually among the only optimizers, and none of us who optimize in my groups favor pure casters. We tend to favor ToB and other combat-focused builds) so I could promise my GM no abuses.

Beyond that I can see by just your post that my knowledge of casters is very very limited. That's what I get for having such a soft spot for old-fashioned killing methods. The question about how you got around Anyspell's text is as much for my own education as it is for the refinement of your build (I prefer the former, I love Anyspell).
« Last Edit: April 25, 2010, 05:26:58 AM by Bloody Initiate »
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Re: Sorcerous Blaster Galore! And now with a zangy Archmage Flavor!
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2010, 08:04:19 AM »
1 - Specialist Wizard may be an issue. I'll need to ask my DM. Assuming he says yes on this, as I'm a focused blaster with Evocation as a Major.
2 - As for the Sorcery Feats, that's allowed.
3 - Anyspell doesn't work that way in our group. Instead, it replaces the Spell Slot Anyspell occupied with the new Spell.
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Re: Sorcerous Blaster Galore! And now with a zangy Archmage Flavor!
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2010, 10:30:04 AM »
Do you need help for this or are you just posting a character that none of us will be able to use because of the house rules used in his creation?

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Re: Sorcerous Blaster Galore! And now with a zangy Archmage Flavor!
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2010, 11:50:34 AM »
I was looking for how you managed Anyspell. Doesn't it say in the description of those spells that you prepare them in your domain slot? I know you too the ACF so you could learn spells from domains, but how did you acquire a domain slot? Were domain slots included in the ACF? If I just missed it I apologize.

Even if I didn't miss it and it isn't there, I would absolutely be game for modifying Anyspells' descriptions so they didn't require domain slots were I the GM or a player with the ear of the GM. Although that's largely because my groups never have strong casters (I'm usually among the only optimizers, and none of us who optimize in my groups favor pure casters. We tend to favor ToB and other combat-focused builds) so I could promise my GM no abuses.

Beyond that I can see by just your post that my knowledge of casters is very very limited. That's what I get for having such a soft spot for old-fashioned killing methods. The question about how you got around Anyspell's text is as much for my own education as it is for the refinement of your build (I prefer the former, I love Anyspell).
Considering you normally can only prepare it once, as it is a domain specific spell, it is written from a cleric in mind. The "This spell occupies your 3rd level domain slot", which since you only ever get one domain slot, and Anyspell is a third level spell, seems like overspecific transparency to me. Especially since that ACF wasn't published when the spell was rewritten in the Spell Compendium. In a strict RAW only game, no it would not work. Who plays straight RAW only games, though? Especially as the intent was quite obvious to replace the Anyspell with the newly prepared spell.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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Re: Sorcerous Blaster Galore! And now with a zangy Archmage Flavor!
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2010, 03:57:17 PM »
I was looking for how you managed Anyspell. Doesn't it say in the description of those spells that you prepare them in your domain slot? I know you too the ACF so you could learn spells from domains, but how did you acquire a domain slot? Were domain slots included in the ACF? If I just missed it I apologize.

Even if I didn't miss it and it isn't there, I would absolutely be game for modifying Anyspells' descriptions so they didn't require domain slots were I the GM or a player with the ear of the GM. Although that's largely because my groups never have strong casters (I'm usually among the only optimizers, and none of us who optimize in my groups favor pure casters. We tend to favor ToB and other combat-focused builds) so I could promise my GM no abuses.

Beyond that I can see by just your post that my knowledge of casters is very very limited. That's what I get for having such a soft spot for old-fashioned killing methods. The question about how you got around Anyspell's text is as much for my own education as it is for the refinement of your build (I prefer the former, I love Anyspell).
Considering you normally can only prepare it once, as it is a domain specific spell, it is written from a cleric in mind. The "This spell occupies your 3rd level domain slot", which since you only ever get one domain slot, and Anyspell is a third level spell, seems like overspecific transparency to me. Especially since that ACF wasn't published when the spell was rewritten in the Spell Compendium. In a strict RAW only game, no it would not work. Who plays straight RAW only games, though? Especially as the intent was quite obvious to replace the Anyspell with the newly prepared spell.

I don't disagree, I just assumed that most of the character work on these boards assumes RAW first. I also always assume the rules are as written when talking to strangers, because you're never sure where they'll budge. I prefer it if they budge, but I don't bank on it.
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Re: Sorcerous Blaster Galore! And now with a zangy Archmage Flavor!
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2010, 04:11:35 PM »
I was looking for how you managed Anyspell. Doesn't it say in the description of those spells that you prepare them in your domain slot? I know you too the ACF so you could learn spells from domains, but how did you acquire a domain slot? Were domain slots included in the ACF? If I just missed it I apologize.

Even if I didn't miss it and it isn't there, I would absolutely be game for modifying Anyspells' descriptions so they didn't require domain slots were I the GM or a player with the ear of the GM. Although that's largely because my groups never have strong casters (I'm usually among the only optimizers, and none of us who optimize in my groups favor pure casters. We tend to favor ToB and other combat-focused builds) so I could promise my GM no abuses.

Beyond that I can see by just your post that my knowledge of casters is very very limited. That's what I get for having such a soft spot for old-fashioned killing methods. The question about how you got around Anyspell's text is as much for my own education as it is for the refinement of your build (I prefer the former, I love Anyspell).
Considering you normally can only prepare it once, as it is a domain specific spell, it is written from a cleric in mind. The "This spell occupies your 3rd level domain slot", which since you only ever get one domain slot, and Anyspell is a third level spell, seems like overspecific transparency to me. Especially since that ACF wasn't published when the spell was rewritten in the Spell Compendium. In a strict RAW only game, no it would not work. Who plays straight RAW only games, though? Especially as the intent was quite obvious to replace the Anyspell with the newly prepared spell.

I don't disagree, I just assumed that most of the character work on these boards assumes RAW first. I also always assume the rules are as written when talking to strangers, because you're never sure where they'll budge. I prefer it if they budge, but I don't bank on it.
Considering how niche the language is, I think it would be hard to argue otherwise. Granted, it could also be argued that since it is a domain spell, the slot it's prepared in, because it is limited to one by the feat, is a domain spell slot, which is a closer to raw definition.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
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Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
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Re: Sorcerous Blaster Galore! And now with a zangy Archmage Flavor!
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2010, 09:01:13 AM »
Do you need help for this or are you just posting a character that none of us will be able to use because of the house rules used in his creation?

I do need help, actually. I have played a blaster before, but he was an Evoker / Silver Pyromancer, and not quite on par with this. Yes, I'm good with arcane casters, but I'm yet to actually play at high levels like this.

I want suggestions on what spells to replace, whether I should take the Spell Domain or perhaps some other Domain, etc. I also need commentry on the feats, and I'm especially worried I'll miss something crucial.

As it stands, my CL is ~23, which means my Wings of Flurry (Empowered Twice for free) does a whooping 46d6+230, and I get 2 of those per casting of G. Arcane Fusion. So damage is decent, to say the least. Hell, my Stored Lightning Bolt deals 92d6+460 (Half Force, Half Lightning) and offers no save.

I'm guessing I need ways to:
1 - Stay Alive! Celerity/Polymorph/Invincible Cheese doesn't exist.
2 - Bypass Immunity to Elemental Damage + Force.
3 - Bypass Immunity to Spells (Orbs aren't enough, since Ranged Touch WILL miss, for various reasons, be it Miss Chance or high touch AC, or even Ray Deflection).


Relevant House Rules:
Sorcerer doesn't suck anymore. It has the Spellcasting of a Favored Soul +1 Level, Bonus Feats as a Wizard, more or less and open to discussion.
(Really) Cheesy spells/feats/items don't exist => DM/Player fiat here. No Wings of Cover as written is obvious.
Domain Access Sorcerer isn't limited to 1/day, and some slight modification to spells is available.
Divine Companion is currently limited to +6 (but I'll be going about changing that to at least +8, or more).
We don't really use XP, so anything dependant on that is banned, and can be replaced.
Expensive (x50) Focus Components may be used instead of Material Components, which I do for Ice Shield, for example.
Talking to players and your DM can get things that aren't RAW approved as long as they make some sense.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2010, 09:08:46 AM by CantripN »
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Re: Sorcerous Blaster Galore! And now with a zangy Archmage Flavor!
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2010, 10:44:19 AM »
There's a reserve feat that let's you reroll missed ranged touch attack rolls. I know RFs aren't remotely optimal, but if you are that worried about missing touch ACs, it might be worth grabbing. It's in CM.
[Spoiler]
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
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Re: Sorcerous Blaster Galore! And now with a zangy Archmage Flavor!
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2010, 01:42:18 PM »
There's a reserve feat that let's you reroll missed ranged touch attack rolls. I know RFs aren't remotely optimal, but if you are that worried about missing touch ACs, it might be worth grabbing. It's in CM.
Not a Reserve feat.  Ranged Recall lets you re-roll a missed ranged spell once with a -5 penalty as a swift action, so long as the target is within 30ft.  It functions 3/day.

And there are times when Reserve feats are the optimal choice.  Minor Shapeshift is a solid feat on its own, for example.  Dread Necromancers love Sickening Grasp with a passion as it's a +1 caster level boost for most of their spells.
I am constantly amazed by how many DM's ban Tomb of Battle.  The book doesn't even exist!

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Re: Sorcerous Blaster Galore! And now with a zangy Archmage Flavor!
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2010, 05:50:51 PM »


And there are times when Reserve feats are the optimal choice.  Minor Shapeshift is a solid feat on its own, for example.  Dread Necromancers love Sickening Grasp with a passion as it's a +1 caster level boost for most of their spells.
Also summon elemental works wonders if your party is short a trapfinder.

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Re: Sorcerous Blaster Galore! And now with a zangy Archmage Flavor!
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2010, 06:01:06 PM »
Where is War Mage? It sounds awesome and I've heard so much about it...

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Re: Sorcerous Blaster Galore! And now with a zangy Archmage Flavor!
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2010, 06:21:58 PM »
Where is War Mage? It sounds awesome and I've heard so much about it...
It isn't.  It can blast and that's pretty much it.  It's amazing as a Rainbow Savant, though.  It's from Complete Arcane if you still want to know.
I am constantly amazed by how many DM's ban Tomb of Battle.  The book doesn't even exist!

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Re: Sorcerous Blaster Galore! And now with a zangy Archmage Flavor!
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2010, 06:26:15 PM »
Where is War Mage? It sounds awesome and I've heard so much about it...
It isn't.  It can blast and that's pretty much it.  It's amazing as a Rainbow Savant, though.  It's from Complete Arcane if you still want to know.
No that is the Warmage, War Mage is from one of the dragonlance books and is much better.

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Re: Sorcerous Blaster Galore! And now with a zangy Archmage Flavor!
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2010, 07:02:02 PM »
Where is War Mage? It sounds awesome and I've heard so much about it...
It isn't.  It can blast and that's pretty much it.  It's amazing as a Rainbow Savant, though.  It's from Complete Arcane if you still want to know.
No that is the Warmage, War Mage is from one of the dragonlance books and is much better.

Except the errata made it crap. Much like the Torc of Power Preservation, going from all-the-time to 3/day really sucks.

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Re: Sorcerous Blaster Galore! And now with a zangy Archmage Flavor!
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2010, 07:15:41 PM »
DragonLance Age of Mortals Page 48 has the class. Errata is in Towers of High Sorcery book, adds intimidate to class list and limits bonus damage to 3+con mod per day uses. Though it doesn't seem over powered as long as you aren't getting cheesy with it, we have run with it in game and it helped for the non-optimized casters.
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Re: Sorcerous Blaster Galore! And now with a zangy Archmage Flavor!
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2010, 02:28:44 AM »
Except the errata made it crap. Much like the Torc of Power Preservation, going from all-the-time to 3/day really sucks.

Never Happened. :banghead

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Re: Sorcerous Blaster Galore! And now with a zangy Archmage Flavor!
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2010, 02:42:05 AM »
Except the errata made it crap. Much like the Torc of Power Preservation, going from all-the-time to 3/day really sucks.

Never Happened. :banghead
And it is not errata, it may have been intended as such but there are no rules saying you cannot use material from a primary source for a system even if a similar item is in another book that was released later.