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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2010, 01:37:50 AM »
Someone asked back on the other thread about how to gain healing via elemental damage... here's a crazy one:

Monsters of Faerun - Giant Strider
large magical beast, 2 HD, LA+2 (LA from web update)
Str +8, Dex +2, Con +6, Int -10 (owch), Wis -2, Cha -2
Healing from fire (ex): Once during each 3 rounds that a strider is exposed to intense heat or flame, the creature gains the benefit of a cure light wounds spell (1d8 + 1 hp healed). A fireball spell or other intense, fiery attack fully heals the creature instantly.

All things considered, I think it's also the lowest HD/LA magical beast I've seen...

edit: oh wait I take that back, the Abrian (Fiend Folio) is 2HD/1LA
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2010, 01:39:18 AM »
Q 2: How does that qualify for a bikini, and how does one go about acquiring said bikini + girl combo?


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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2010, 01:43:42 AM »
Someone asked back on the other thread about how to gain healing via elemental damage... here's a crazy one:

Monsters of Faerun - Giant Strider
large magical beast, 2 HD, LA+2 (LA from web update)
Str +8, Dex +2, Con +6, Int -10 (owch), Wis -2, Cha -2
Healing from fire (ex): Once during each 3 rounds that a strider is exposed to intense heat or flame, the creature gains the benefit of a cure light wounds spell (1d8 + 1 hp healed). A fireball spell or other intense, fiery attack fully heals the creature instantly.

All things considered, I think it's also the lowest HD/LA magical beast I've seen...

edit: oh wait I take that back, the Abrian (Fiend Folio) is 2HD/1LA
I think that was Kevin Video.  There is also the Nyth aberration from the same book that heals from fire and electric damage on a 1-for-1 basis. (and I think it had an LA in the update as well... though much higher)

How the hell does a fire strider have an LA?  It has an Intelligence of 1!

Probably the most surprising LA's I saw as I was perusing the 3.5 update for MoF was the Phaerlin Giant.  8 HD, Huge size, and +5 LA. Granted, it wasn't all that beefy for an ECL 13 character (68 HP's), but it has REACH.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2010, 01:44:29 AM »
Someone asked back on the other thread about how to gain healing via elemental damage... here's a crazy one:

Monsters of Faerun - Giant Strider
large magical beast, 2 HD, LA+2 (LA from web update)
Str +8, Dex +2, Con +6, Int -10 (owch), Wis -2, Cha -2
Healing from fire (ex): Once during each 3 rounds that a strider is exposed to intense heat or flame, the creature gains the benefit of a cure light wounds spell (1d8 + 1 hp healed). A fireball spell or other intense, fiery attack fully heals the creature instantly.

All things considered, I think it's also the lowest HD/LA magical beast I've seen...

edit: oh wait I take that back, the Abrian (Fiend Folio) is 2HD/1LA

Holy. Shit.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2010, 01:53:54 AM »
Someone asked back on the other thread about how to gain healing via elemental damage... here's a crazy one:

Monsters of Faerun - Giant Strider
large magical beast, 2 HD, LA+2 (LA from web update)
Str +8, Dex +2, Con +6, Int -10 (owch), Wis -2, Cha -2
Healing from fire (ex): Once during each 3 rounds that a strider is exposed to intense heat or flame, the creature gains the benefit of a cure light wounds spell (1d8 + 1 hp healed). A fireball spell or other intense, fiery attack fully heals the creature instantly.

All things considered, I think it's also the lowest HD/LA magical beast I've seen...

edit: oh wait I take that back, the Abrian (Fiend Folio) is 2HD/1LA

Holy. Shit.

seems like a plausible way to make a permanent omnicificer setup.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2010, 02:04:39 AM »
Probably the most surprising LA's I saw as I was perusing the 3.5 update for MoF was the Phaerlin Giant.  8 HD, Huge size, and +5 LA. Granted, it wasn't all that beefy for an ECL 13 character (68 HP's), but it has REACH.

The hairy spider is LA+0 and has Int -- :D
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2010, 02:09:23 AM »
Monsters of Faerun - Giant Strider
large magical beast, 2 HD, LA+2 (LA from web update)
Can you link me that? I didn't know there was a web update.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2010, 02:11:24 AM »
Monsters of Faerun - Giant Strider
large magical beast, 2 HD, LA+2 (LA from web update)
Can you link me that? I didn't know there was a web update.
Search for the Player's Guide to Faerun web enhancement.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2010, 02:13:01 AM »
I think it's also listed under Monsters of Faerun update. The update gives LAs to tons of the monsters in there.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2010, 02:21:38 AM »
Probably the most surprising LA's I saw as I was perusing the 3.5 update for MoF was the Phaerlin Giant.  8 HD, Huge size, and +5 LA. Granted, it wasn't all that beefy for an ECL 13 character (68 HP's), but it has REACH.

The hairy spider is LA+0 and has Int -- :D
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2010, 02:49:17 AM »
Q 6 I think we're on that number. I didn't see anything after A5. Anyways, how does a mage cast under water?

Q 7 If the mage casts in water, or under water, and it's lightning, how does that affect the spell?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2010, 02:54:31 AM »
Q 7 If the mage casts in water, or under water, and it's lightning, how does that affect the spell?
by RAW, nothing changes. stupid, but there it is. then again, launching a bolt of lightning straight forwards is violating physics plenty already, so it doesn't really make that much less sense.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2010, 02:57:04 AM »
Q 7 If the mage casts in water, or under water, and it's lightning, how does that affect the spell?
by RAW, nothing changes. stupid, but there it is. then again, launching a bolt of lightning straight forwards is violating physics plenty already, so it doesn't really make that much less sense.
True, but that's what Chain Lightning is for. Gets rid of that whole straight line thing. :D

But yes, it is stupid. You need to make a spellcraft check at 20 to make fire work and go off as steam, and ice just kind of floats there and doesn't work too well when submerged, but god forbid that lightning become empowered when in water and actually be affective for once.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2010, 03:30:42 AM »
Q 7 If the mage casts in water, or under water, and it's lightning, how does that affect the spell?
by RAW, nothing changes. stupid, but there it is. then again, launching a bolt of lightning straight forwards is violating physics plenty already, so it doesn't really make that much less sense.
True, but that's what Chain Lightning is for. Gets rid of that whole straight line thing. :D

But yes, it is stupid. You need to make a spellcraft check at 20 to make fire work and go off as steam, and ice just kind of floats there and doesn't work too well when submerged, but god forbid that lightning become empowered when in water and actually be affective for once.

I did see a homebrewed system a while back that increased the radius of lightning effects in water (Line -> Cone etc)

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2010, 03:35:48 AM »
Q 8: Is there a spell that acts like the 2e lightning bolt? (ie: it bounces off walls, etc)
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2010, 04:25:42 AM »
Q 7 If the mage casts in water, or under water, and it's lightning, how does that affect the spell?
by RAW, nothing changes. stupid, but there it is. then again, launching a bolt of lightning straight forwards is violating physics plenty already, so it doesn't really make that much less sense.
It can make sense. Lightning is just static electricity. Static electricity has nothing to do with the direction of gravity. Build up enough static and you can get yourself a home grown lightning bolt.

Of course to make the lightning bolt really fucking big, you'd need something like electromagnetic waves striking the earth's magnetic field, corkscrewing down the equipotential field lines, and some opposite (or neutral charge) to build up on something below that magnetic field and electric potential to thusly build up to insane levels between the two surfaces before the charges become so great that they penetrate air's resistance to charge and zip right through it to equalize the potential difference.

Or just magic ;D
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2010, 04:30:08 AM »
I always thought that lightning bolt should just heavily polarize everything in the line that way it doesn't matter about direction only that you will be toasted.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2010, 08:45:47 AM »
Q 2: How does that qualify for a bikini, and how does one go about acquiring said bikini + girl combo?

Q 3: Assuming the girl is a Thor-girl equivalent, do you suppose the artist actually knows his mythology in that Thor has red hair, or do you think he just likes drawing buxom redheads?
2) chloroform + electrical tape.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2010, 08:50:27 AM »
Q9: Could someone explain Quasireality of Shadow Spells to me please, the mind boggles. If the person fails their save, they take the effect according to... the quasireality of the shadow, which can be higher than the normal spell?  :banghead Does not compute.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Ragnarok Edition
« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2010, 09:02:13 AM »
A9: If the person FAILS his save, they just take the regular effect - it looks, sounds and hurts like a fireball - it's probably a fireball.
If the person SUCCEEDS on his save, they get damage according to the quasireality - ranging from 20% ("Oh, a fake fireball. Meh") to 130+% ("Wait, that's not a real fireball, that's - HOLY SH-!"). Some DMs cap it at 100% (as it can't be more 'real'  than 'real' already is), but I (and quite a few others) figure that if you're adding shadowstuff to make it more real, why can't you keep adding it until it's more effective? You're weaving the stuff of nightmares - either their weak minds see it as what it's supposed to be, or they recognize what you're really doing and are proportionately more doomed. Sometimes ignorance really is bliss.