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Re: The country where magic is illegal
« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2010, 03:57:55 PM »
So all wizards commit ritualistic suicide and come back as Necropolitans?

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Re: The country where magic is illegal
« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2010, 04:02:01 PM »
So all wizards commit ritualistic suicide and come back as Necropolitans?
Sounds like a great beginning to a "take over the world" cult, and a great plot twist for the DM. "The only real cure is to die." :P
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Re: The country where magic is illegal
« Reply #42 on: May 26, 2010, 04:02:58 PM »
So all wizards commit ritualistic suicide and come back as Necropolitans?
Sounds like a great beginning to a "take over the world" cult, and a great plot twist for the DM. "The only real cure is to die." :P
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Re: The country where magic is illegal
« Reply #43 on: May 26, 2010, 04:25:07 PM »
Undead and constructs would have been immune to the plague to begin with. Plus having undead be the only non-pawns is awesome flavor.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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Re: The country where magic is illegal
« Reply #44 on: May 26, 2010, 04:53:10 PM »
Yeah, with the added perk that undead are revolting enough generally that it won't be hard to rouse up the legal mages and pitchfork mobs against them.

Constructs are a special case of course, but any setting magically advanced enough to have a construct PC race probably wouldn't be under such heavy suppression.

Bonus: Make the disease target their sanity, so without regular doses, they go nuts with their spells.
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Re: The country where magic is illegal
« Reply #45 on: May 26, 2010, 04:54:03 PM »
make it ability burn either way. Can't be healed except by normal means. If it's a low die figure (say, 1d2) then they'll slowly succumb over days or weeks, instead of rapidly.
[Spoiler]
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
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Re: The country where magic is illegal
« Reply #46 on: May 26, 2010, 04:57:06 PM »
Two stage onset?
A rapid phase of insanity, followed by a slow rotting alive.
The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
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Re: The country where magic is illegal
« Reply #47 on: May 26, 2010, 04:58:49 PM »
Two stage onset?
A rapid phase of insanity, followed by a slow rotting alive.
Yeah, this is sounding awesome. I totally want to run or play in a campaign with this, now!
[spoiler]
A couple of water benders, a dike, a flaming arrow, and a few barrels of blasting jelly?

Sounds like the makings of a gay porn film.
...thanks
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Re: The country where magic is illegal
« Reply #48 on: May 26, 2010, 05:01:54 PM »
Two stage onset?
A rapid phase of insanity, followed by a slow rotting alive.
Yeah, this is sounding awesome. I totally want to run or play in a campaign with this, now!
Yeah, I think I might steal this idea and do something similar. Tie it in to Atropus somehow...Spellcasters are screwed more as the elder evil gets closer...
[Spoiler]
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
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Re: The country where magic is illegal
« Reply #49 on: May 26, 2010, 05:26:54 PM »
Throw in a side plot with supply interruptions for the antidote and you'd have outbreaks of rabid magic users.
The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

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Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
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Re: The country where magic is illegal
« Reply #50 on: May 26, 2010, 05:28:30 PM »
Throw in a side plot with supply interruptions for the antidote and you'd have outbreaks of rabid magic users.
That could be what the undead/constructs are doing, to "prove" to try and sew chaos/overthrow the government/prove to everyone what the true nature of the "disease" is. Yeah... this has loads of potential.  :devil
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A couple of water benders, a dike, a flaming arrow, and a few barrels of blasting jelly?

Sounds like the makings of a gay porn film.
...thanks
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Re: The country where magic is illegal
« Reply #51 on: May 26, 2010, 05:42:33 PM »
And berserk mages and priests alone are an incredible ongoing scene of carnage.
The mild old sage going bonkers and next thing you know, Hobbiton is on fire.
The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
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Re: The country where magic is illegal
« Reply #52 on: May 26, 2010, 05:43:05 PM »
So... the disease is basically taint, then?
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Re: The country where magic is illegal
« Reply #53 on: May 26, 2010, 07:08:19 PM »
Heh, theres a certain resemblance. Excepting the rationed antidote

Theres a fair case for subjecting EVERYONE(including undead) to the mental issues though. It makes the plague much harder to get around and the PCs would be totally thrilled to learn about liches that're completely bonkers. After all, a magical disease could be expected to waive the rules.
The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
[/spoiler]

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Re: The country where magic is illegal
« Reply #54 on: May 27, 2010, 02:00:39 PM »
Going back to the plague... maybe an idea from Star Trek?

Maybe the plague did ravage the spellcasting community, but the drug used to treat it wiped out the disease centuries ago.  The drug is also highly addictive and the withdrawl symptoms look like severe viral infection, leading people to think that the drug still cures the extinct disease.  The leadership of the country keeps up this appearance to control their own mages and to make free mages turn themselves into addicts willingly.  Sounds like a really cool political corruption hook if I ever heard one.

Present it like a disease and require the fort saves as above, but four (or however many) successful saves means that you survived withdrawl and take no further damage unless you're administered the drug again.

This is fantastic.

I'll go with it!

I'll also add in the political power plots, which are good, and the sudden outbursts of wizard mayhem when one of the wizards gets his sending of "the antidote" delayed.

Also, I'll add in a few low level plots that's about delivering the anti-dote to a half-mad wizard constantly putting the adventures onto odd challenges.

Also, the cabal of Necropolitans and Constructs sound great, my world already features an ancient civilization gone extinct, who boasted warforged, necropolitans, liches and Elans among their ranks, this cult could be some new-comers who have found the ancient scriptures and replicated it, making them undead and therefore immune.
However, since damage to the mind doesn't really heal when you become undead, all these guys would be at least half-mad. And therefore they'd often do things that seem rather evil, although their goals might be quite noble.

Oh, and Undead are outlawed in my campaign setting, so they'd have to be rather undercover anyway.

This is gonna be great.

Two stage onset?
A rapid phase of insanity, followed by a slow rotting alive.
Yeah, this is sounding awesome. I totally want to run or play in a campaign with this, now!
Let me know if you start a PBP game with it, either I'll join as a player, or I'd very much like to know how it goes.
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