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nijineko

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please?

any published book with a few exceptions are fair game for this build. no exalted or vile, nor valor or ruin, epic, or deities and demi. ua stuff has to be reviewed for approval but is otherwise good. unless he changes his mind and goes point buy, my stats are 15, 15, 14, 12, 11, 09. he likes to start us at low level, usually four, but sometimes one.

would it be better to go erudite or psion? or wilder for the cha synergy? paladin? what other good synergies are there for thrallherd? something incarnum? truename magic?

thank you for help and guidance!
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I seriously doubt your DM will allow this but.

Part 1)  Nightmare Spinner under the Adaptation section allows you to affect creatures normally immune with mind affecting spells, to spells with the mind affecting descriptor.

Part 2)  See if your DM will allow you to do a psionic adaptation of Nightmare Spinner


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which book is that from please?
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it is an arcane spellcasting class in complete mage

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Kalashtar can qualify for Thrallherd with no levels in a psionic class as they have the required power as a psi-like ability and Thrallherd just wants a manifester level (psi-like ability provides).  How you use this fact is up to you.
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I love Wilder, but it actually is pretty bad. Feat Leech (assuming your thrall has Expanded Knowledge) could help a lot, though, if you really want to go that way.

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I love Wilder, but it actually is pretty bad. Feat Leech (assuming your thrall has Expanded Knowledge) could help a lot, though, if you really want to go that way.
Metaconcert (including all of your high level believers) can help a lot, also. Here is a fairly optimized thrallherd I have in a game. It is insane building and keeping up with that many followers, but it does let you manifest just about anything you want below your max power level (and many at that power, even, between you and your thrall(s)).

If you're using Feat Leech to grab Expanded Knowledge, and making liberal use of Metaconcert, I think wilder could work out fine. If your DM will let you speed up the manifesting time on Metaconcert by using Linked Power on it, it makes things easier.
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nice ideas... don't know why i didn't think of having all the believers be psionic as well... i guess i was looking around at various optimization focuses to cover instead. ^^
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