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Re: What to do with TEN levels worth of free LA?!
« Reply #80 on: April 08, 2010, 03:55:05 PM »
So, this is only marginally off topic, but I really like what Wizards did when they statted up Phaerimm and Sharn.

You see, these two races have the typical "in the game's backstory we were involved in a worldshattering war and one of us got sealed away forever".  The difference is, they actually have the stats to back it up.  So instead of "ho-hum, another ancient sealed away race.  Pass me my aberration-bane chopsticks, Gerard" it's more "Holy shit, the DM is actually using a sharn on us!  Did someone run over his cat?  No?  Well, screw the XP drain, it's time for us to pull out the big guns"

curious question from a FR noob: which of them got sealed away?

The one that doesn't have extra actions per round.
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Re: What to do with TEN levels worth of free LA?!
« Reply #81 on: April 08, 2010, 04:07:32 PM »
So you have 10 free level adjustments but you still have to eat racial hit dice?

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Re: What to do with TEN levels worth of free LA?!
« Reply #82 on: April 08, 2010, 04:32:53 PM »
Yup.  I'm not complaining, though.
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Re: What to do with TEN levels worth of free LA?!
« Reply #83 on: April 08, 2010, 04:41:12 PM »
:) I wouldn't be either.

It just changes what's a good suggestion.

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Re: What to do with TEN levels worth of free LA?!
« Reply #84 on: April 08, 2010, 04:58:58 PM »
So, this is only marginally off topic, but I really like what Wizards did when they statted up Phaerimm and Sharn.

You see, these two races have the typical "in the game's backstory we were involved in a worldshattering war and one of us got sealed away forever".  The difference is, they actually have the stats to back it up.  So instead of "ho-hum, another ancient sealed away race.  Pass me my aberration-bane chopsticks, Gerard" it's more "Holy shit, the DM is actually using a sharn on us!  Did someone run over his cat?  No?  Well, screw the XP drain, it's time for us to pull out the big guns"

curious question from a FR noob: which of them got sealed away?

Phaerimm, IIRC.

With every DM I have ever played with, they might as well have both been sealed away  :rollseyes

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Re: What to do with TEN levels worth of free LA?!
« Reply #85 on: April 08, 2010, 05:01:35 PM »
So, this is only marginally off topic, but I really like what Wizards did when they statted up Phaerimm and Sharn.

You see, these two races have the typical "in the game's backstory we were involved in a worldshattering war and one of us got sealed away forever".  The difference is, they actually have the stats to back it up.  So instead of "ho-hum, another ancient sealed away race.  Pass me my aberration-bane chopsticks, Gerard" it's more "Holy shit, the DM is actually using a sharn on us!  Did someone run over his cat?  No?  Well, screw the XP drain, it's time for us to pull out the big guns"

curious question from a FR noob: which of them got sealed away?

The one that doesn't have extra actions per round.
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Re: What to do with TEN levels worth of free LA?!
« Reply #86 on: April 09, 2010, 01:34:35 PM »
So you have 10 free level adjustments but you still have to eat racial hit dice?
Some racial HD aren't HORRIBLE for what you get.  War Troll isn't bad: 12 levels of Full BAB, Good Ref and Will saves (not bad for a beat-stick), Dazing Blow with a decent DC (especially given the free LA - though at epic levels might not be too big of a deal), and some great Regen, in addition to pretty awesome stats.  Can't think of any others off the top of my head, but I'm sure there are others.
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Re: What to do with TEN levels worth of free LA?!
« Reply #87 on: April 09, 2010, 01:44:31 PM »
So you have 10 free level adjustments but you still have to eat racial hit dice?
Some racial HD aren't HORRIBLE for what you get.  War Troll isn't bad: 12 levels of Full BAB, Good Ref and Will saves (not bad for a beat-stick), Dazing Blow with a decent DC (especially given the free LA - though at epic levels might not be too big of a deal), and some great Regen, in addition to pretty awesome stats.  Can't think of any others off the top of my head, but I'm sure there are others.
like sharn. your hit dice is MT+aberration.
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Re: What to do with TEN levels worth of free LA?!
« Reply #88 on: April 09, 2010, 01:58:06 PM »
So you have 10 free level adjustments but you still have to eat racial hit dice?
Some racial HD aren't HORRIBLE for what you get.  War Troll isn't bad: 12 levels of Full BAB, Good Ref and Will saves (not bad for a beat-stick), Dazing Blow with a decent DC (especially given the free LA - though at epic levels might not be too big of a deal), and some great Regen, in addition to pretty awesome stats.  Can't think of any others off the top of my head, but I'm sure there are others.
like sharn. your hit dice is MT+aberration.
MT?
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Re: What to do with TEN levels worth of free LA?!
« Reply #89 on: April 09, 2010, 02:04:23 PM »
So you have 10 free level adjustments but you still have to eat racial hit dice?
Some racial HD aren't HORRIBLE for what you get.  War Troll isn't bad: 12 levels of Full BAB, Good Ref and Will saves (not bad for a beat-stick), Dazing Blow with a decent DC (especially given the free LA - though at epic levels might not be too big of a deal), and some great Regen, in addition to pretty awesome stats.  Can't think of any others off the top of my head, but I'm sure there are others.
like sharn. your hit dice is MT+aberration.
MT?
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Re: What to do with TEN levels worth of free LA?!
« Reply #90 on: April 09, 2010, 02:07:18 PM »
If you're going to eat racial HD then I strongly suggest templating them to something great. Like Outsider or Dragon.

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Re: What to do with TEN levels worth of free LA?!
« Reply #91 on: April 09, 2010, 02:11:04 PM »
If you're going to eat racial HD then I strongly suggest templating them to something great. Like Outsider or Dragon.
Problem is most templates that change type tell you not to recalculate BAB, skills, etc.
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Re: What to do with TEN levels worth of free LA?!
« Reply #92 on: April 09, 2010, 06:51:52 PM »
If you're going to eat racial HD then I strongly suggest templating them to something great. Like Outsider or Dragon.
Problem is most templates that change type tell you not to recalculate BAB, skills, etc.
I thought that was just for class levels...
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Re: What to do with TEN levels worth of free LA?!
« Reply #93 on: April 10, 2010, 12:08:20 AM »
Problem is most templates that change type tell you not to recalculate BAB, skills, etc.
Except for the ones that do.  ;)

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Re: What to do with TEN levels worth of free LA?!
« Reply #94 on: April 10, 2010, 08:26:10 AM »
Problem is most templates that change type tell you not to recalculate BAB, skills, etc.
Except for the ones that do.  ;)
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Re: What to do with TEN levels worth of free LA?!
« Reply #95 on: April 10, 2010, 09:05:32 AM »
Half-dragon would match the criteria, if I'm on top of discussion.

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Re: What to do with TEN levels worth of free LA?!
« Reply #96 on: April 10, 2010, 02:19:56 PM »
Any of those turn you into an outsider with the Evil subtype? Oh right, no Heroes of Horror...
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Re: What to do with TEN levels worth of free LA?!
« Reply #97 on: April 10, 2010, 02:38:07 PM »
Any of those turn you into an outsider with the Evil subtype? Oh right, no Heroes of Horror...
Divine minion does that but that is not on the source list.

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Re: What to do with TEN levels worth of free LA?!
« Reply #98 on: April 11, 2010, 12:20:45 AM »
Any of those turn you into an outsider with the Evil subtype? Oh right, no Heroes of Horror...
Divine minion does that but that is not on the source list.

Divine minion only gives you an evil subtype if you already have an alignment subtype and you pick an evil deity.  Althought a bladeling from monster manual II can go with this to get the outsider with an alignment subtype.

Why do you need an evil subtype?  No Fiend Folio makes the ever popular fiend of possession unavailable.

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Re: What to do with TEN levels worth of free LA?!
« Reply #99 on: April 11, 2010, 12:33:52 AM »
Any of those turn you into an outsider with the Evil subtype? Oh right, no Heroes of Horror...
I think there's one in faerun.  Arcane or divine devotee.
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