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Anklebite

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Re: Help with a Human Gish
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2010, 02:30:22 AM »
Hood has the Trancer build. Adapt as needed for human.

Remember, Dragonborn humans lose their bonus feat and skill points.

Unless they need the feat to qualify for something, then they get to keep it.
No they don't.
instead, you lose a different feat.
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Re: Help with a Human Gish
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2010, 02:31:12 AM »
Hood has the Trancer build. Adapt as needed for human.

Remember, Dragonborn humans lose their bonus feat and skill points.

Unless they need the feat to qualify for something, then they get to keep it.
No they don't.
instead, you lose a different feat.

Which makes a dragonborn human a rather bad choice. Although not quite as bad as a default elf.

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Re: Help with a Human Gish
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2010, 02:31:52 AM »
Unless you can engineer a case where every one of your feats serves as a prerequisite for another one.  Dunno how, but it would be really clever.
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Re: Help with a Human Gish
« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2010, 02:33:21 AM »
Unless you can engineer a case where every one of your feats serves as a prerequisite for another one.  Dunno how, but it would be really clever.
You would need to have the topmost feat in the chain qualify for itself for something otherwise you would just lose that one.

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Re: Help with a Human Gish
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2010, 02:36:43 AM »
Wait a second, I see weaseling afoot!

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If your original race granted you a nonspecific bonus feat (such as the one gained by a human at 1st level), any feat can be lost, so long as it is not a prerequisite for another feat you have.

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If you no longer qualify for a feat due to the transformation, you lose the feat and immediately select a new feat for which you qualify in its place. You must also replace any feat for which the lost feat was a prerequisite.

I think you might be able to ditch vow of poverty (which isn't a prerequisite for the bonus feats it grants).  Then you'd no longer qualify for those exalted bonus feats, and be able to switch them out of things that don't suck.

In-character justification:
"Dude, I'm serving a dragon.  It's now against my religion not to assemble a hoard of treasure."
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Re: Help with a Human Gish
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2010, 02:49:33 AM »
"Dude, I'm serving a dragon.  It's now against my religion not to assemble a hoard of treasure."

I really have to play a dragonwrought kobold some day just to use a variation of that line.

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Re: Help with a Human Gish
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2010, 02:53:15 AM »
Wait a second, I see weaseling afoot!

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If your original race granted you a nonspecific bonus feat (such as the one gained by a human at 1st level), any feat can be lost, so long as it is not a prerequisite for another feat you have.

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If you no longer qualify for a feat due to the transformation, you lose the feat and immediately select a new feat for which you qualify in its place. You must also replace any feat for which the lost feat was a prerequisite.

I think you might be able to ditch vow of poverty (which isn't a prerequisite for the bonus feats it grants).  Then you'd no longer qualify for those exalted bonus feats, and be able to switch them out of things that don't suck.

In-character justification:
"Dude, I'm serving a dragon.  It's now against my religion not to assemble a hoard of treasure."

so... much... win... MUST USE!  :lol
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