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Long Distance Communication
« on: March 28, 2010, 06:03:02 PM »
I need some help with long distance communication in my campaign. Its a low magic campaign, with items being valued at approximately 5* base cost, so I obviously started up a mail order magic item system to abuse this, with craft wondrous items and craft magical arms and armor.

The party currently has access to 2nd level Adept casting, 2nd level Wizard Casting, and 2nd level Cleric casting, with possible use of home brewed unearthed arcana ritual magic to increase it slightly.

Currently for communication I am using human messengers on horses, but that is hideously slow and ineffective. I thought of using Divination spells (Scry or Clairvoyence) to look at notes layed out on a desk, but that's not for another level or two. Whispering Wind is okay, but has a limited range (5 miles at the moment).

Ideally, something that would allow for communcation over 100 miles or so and requires 3rd or 4th level spells that we could make a ritual to put into an item. Does such an item exist? Does anyone have any better ideas?
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Re: Long Distance Communication
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2010, 06:07:46 PM »
How about Aspect Mirror (Complete Scoundrel 113,  4000 gp/Mirror)?

Heck, selling long-distance communications is probably going to just as profitable as your magic items, if not more so. 
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Re: Long Distance Communication
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2010, 06:14:35 PM »
From Core, there's Sending, which is a 4th level spell for Clerics.
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Re: Long Distance Communication
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2010, 07:11:37 PM »
You could always use a chain of signal towers...
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Re: Long Distance Communication
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2010, 07:42:53 PM »
pigeons?

awakened pigeons?

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Re: Long Distance Communication
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2010, 11:39:18 PM »
Sending/Scrying/Aspect mirrors (which require scrying) are right up the alley, but I was hoping for something more low level than that, but all in all, that's not bad.
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Re: Long Distance Communication
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2010, 11:56:14 PM »
Animal messenger would be great if you could get it.

Speaking stones( magic of eberron) might work
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Re: Long Distance Communication
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2010, 12:06:32 AM »
Sending Stones, page 184 in the Magic Item Compendium. They come in pairs. You can use them to get a Sending effect between the two once per day. They're 1400 gp.
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Re: Long Distance Communication
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2010, 12:31:07 PM »
Hive-minded creatures. Put one of the creatures in the hivemind at each destination, instant free telepathy.
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Re: Long Distance Communication
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2010, 01:16:52 PM »
There's Whispering Flame, from Five Nations, a 2nd level spell for Druids and Clerics.
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Re: Long Distance Communication
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2010, 03:52:00 PM »
You win, Whispering Flame is perfect.
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Re: Long Distance Communication
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2010, 07:51:09 PM »
Quote from: McPoyo on March 29, 2010, 12:31:07 PM
Hive-minded creatures. Put one of the creatures in the hivemind at each destination, instant free telepathy.


lol.. ya put a hivemind creature in every major city, with tons of information available to each/the whole ... that's not asking for trouble  :bigeye
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Re: Long Distance Communication
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2010, 08:13:12 PM »
Quote from: Grollub on March 29, 2010, 07:51:09 PM
Quote from: McPoyo on March 29, 2010, 12:31:07 PM
Hive-minded creatures. Put one of the creatures in the hivemind at each destination, instant free telepathy.


lol.. ya put a hivemind creature in every major city, with tons of information available to each/the whole ... that's not asking for trouble  :bigeye
Just make sure it is a lawful good hive mind with a love for knowledge and you should be fine.
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Re: Long Distance Communication
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2010, 09:04:40 PM »
Quote from: Havok4 on March 29, 2010, 08:13:12 PM
Quote from: Grollub on March 29, 2010, 07:51:09 PM
Quote from: McPoyo on March 29, 2010, 12:31:07 PM
Hive-minded creatures. Put one of the creatures in the hivemind at each destination, instant free telepathy.


lol.. ya put a hivemind creature in every major city, with tons of information available to each/the whole ... that's not asking for trouble  :bigeye
Just make sure it is a lawful good hive mind with a love for knowledge and you should be fine.

make em spiders.

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Re: Long Distance Communication
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2010, 09:42:02 PM »
Quote from: Grollub on March 29, 2010, 07:51:09 PM
lol.. ya put a hivemind creature in every major city, with tons of information available to each/the whole ... that's not asking for trouble  :bigeye

Reminds me of something:

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Tiffany: Of course, I have never seen a baby squirrel either.  I just figured it was the same thing. 

Faden: You mean that they reproduce by magical cloning and there is but one all-squirrel connected through a collective psychic consciousness? 

Tiffany: What? 

Faden: Nothing, never mind.  Go on with your theorizing.  It's fascinating. 

All-Squirrel: The humans know of us.  We must take action.  We must act.  We must... collect and hide nuts.  [/spoiler]
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Re: Long Distance Communication
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2010, 02:09:31 AM »
Well, on the really low level end, Dancing Lights based semaphore system? You could get better distance between relay points with that.
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Re: Long Distance Communication
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2010, 11:31:00 AM »
Quote from: Maat_Mons on March 29, 2010, 09:42:02 PM
Quote from: Grollub on March 29, 2010, 07:51:09 PM
lol.. ya put a hivemind creature in every major city, with tons of information available to each/the whole ... that's not asking for trouble  :bigeye

Reminds me of something:

[spoiler]Tiffany: You know I have never seen a baby dragon.  I don't think I have ever heard of anyone who has seen a baby dragon. 

Faden: Is that so? 

Tiffany: Of course, I have never seen a baby squirrel either.  I just figured it was the same thing. 

Faden: You mean that they reproduce by magical cloning and there is but one all-squirrel connected through a collective psychic consciousness? 

Tiffany: What? 

Faden: Nothing, never mind.  Go on with your theorizing.  It's fascinating. 

All-Squirrel: The humans know of us.  We must take action.  We must act.  We must... collect and hide nuts.  [/spoiler]
I recognized that conversation within the first line. I don't know whether to be happy or sad at my geek ability.
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Quote from: The_Mad_Linguist on July 27, 2009, 01:19:19 PM
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
Quote from: snakeman830 on March 30, 2010, 05:19:30 PM
Quote from: McPoyo on March 30, 2010, 05:13:33 PM
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
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Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
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Re: Long Distance Communication
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2010, 12:05:45 PM »
Quote from: Anklebite on March 29, 2010, 09:04:40 PM
Quote from: Havok4 on March 29, 2010, 08:13:12 PM
Quote from: Grollub on March 29, 2010, 07:51:09 PM
Quote from: McPoyo on March 29, 2010, 12:31:07 PM
Hive-minded creatures. Put one of the creatures in the hivemind at each destination, instant free telepathy.


lol.. ya put a hivemind creature in every major city, with tons of information available to each/the whole ... that's not asking for trouble  :bigeye
Just make sure it is a lawful good hive mind with a love for knowledge and you should be fine.

make em spiders.

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Re: Long Distance Communication
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2010, 12:06:23 PM »
Quote from: Hijax on March 30, 2010, 12:05:45 PM
Quote from: Anklebite on March 29, 2010, 09:04:40 PM
Quote from: Havok4 on March 29, 2010, 08:13:12 PM
Quote from: Grollub on March 29, 2010, 07:51:09 PM
Quote from: McPoyo on March 29, 2010, 12:31:07 PM
Hive-minded creatures. Put one of the creatures in the hivemind at each destination, instant free telepathy.


lol.. ya put a hivemind creature in every major city, with tons of information available to each/the whole ... that's not asking for trouble  :bigeye
Just make sure it is a lawful good hive mind with a love for knowledge and you should be fine.

make em spiders.

the internets; using the world wide web for fun and profit.

win.

Vermin lords, unexpectedly, were the most important class when building a better society. who would have thought that, with the flavor WotC wrote for them?
And the Darkspeech is usable to rebuild, instead of destroy...
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Quote from: The_Mad_Linguist on July 27, 2009, 01:19:19 PM
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
Quote from: snakeman830 on March 30, 2010, 05:19:30 PM
Quote from: McPoyo on March 30, 2010, 05:13:33 PM
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
Quote from: Solo on July 31, 2010, 12:42:07 AM
Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
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Re: Long Distance Communication
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2010, 01:45:13 PM »
proof that evil is better than good in every way. not that this is news.
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