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Etarran

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Re: A Ridiculous Problem
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2010, 01:33:38 AM »
Fixed to get in the last two heritor feats (thanks!).

I have been looking, and can't find any feats that make stat-switching mandatory that don't also require me to have levels of monk or paladin, neither of which I am allowed, unfortunately.

Druid avenger is a good call, if only I could cheat my way into frenzied berserker or if there was another way to make rage mandatory, which I've been as yet unable to find.

Armor proficiencies, alas, don't count, because wearing it isn't mandatory. Hmmm... mandatory armor... warforged! I can take adamantine body and instantly lose... well, basically everything druid-related!

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Re: A Ridiculous Problem
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2010, 01:52:21 AM »
Hmmm... mandatory armor... warforged! I can take adamantine body and instantly lose... well, basically everything druid-related!
But doesn't that prevent you from casting 9th level spells, one of the things you must be able to do?
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Re: A Ridiculous Problem
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2010, 01:54:22 AM »
Thankfully, no, because blighters can still cast in armor (unless I am missing something).

Edit: though that does raise the question: do I count as having been "capable" of casting 3rd-level druid spells if I've had adamantine body from level one?

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Re: A Ridiculous Problem
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2010, 02:14:33 AM »
You retrained it.  ;)

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Re: A Ridiculous Problem
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2010, 04:46:35 AM »
force of personality cha 13 complete adventurer
You add your Charisma modifier (instead of
your Wisdom modifier) to Will saves against mind-affecting
spells and abilities.

Agile Athlete Races of the wild
Prerequisites: Climb 1 rank, Jump 1 rank.
Benefit: When making a Climb or Jump check, you use
your Dexterity modifier for the check.
Normal: Without this feat, you use your Strength modifier
for Climb and Jump checks.

Insightful reflexes complete adventurer
Benefit: You add your Intelligence modifier (instead
of your Dexterity modifier) to Reflex saves.

At lv 20 you need the following stats

str 16 has to be higher than dex
dex 14 has to be less than str for agile athlete to be worse
con any
int 13 keeper of forbidden lore, has to be less than dex for insightful reflexes to be worse
wis 19 9th lv spells
cha 15 otherwordly coutenance; has to be less than wis for force of personality to be worse



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Re: A Ridiculous Problem
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2010, 07:30:08 AM »
Too bad the blue mage isn't acceptable material.

I'd finally have a change for my auto-head-explody build.
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Re: A Ridiculous Problem
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2010, 09:26:45 AM »
My group is composed exclusively of optimizers who love wacky challenges in character creation, having played a lot of the more typical builds, so in between our more serious campaigns, we play short interlude games with bizarre rules.

Have you ever tried a 20th level character using 20 different classes

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Re: A Ridiculous Problem
« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2010, 10:10:35 AM »
Base spellcasting classes are also bereft of any class features whatsoever. How do you get any worse than that?  ???
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Re: A Ridiculous Problem
« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2010, 10:17:41 AM »
Base spellcasting classes are also bereft of any class features whatsoever. How do you get any worse than that?  ???

You get spellcasting.

As for worse than nothing, you could take a VoP monk+forsaker and run around in heavy magic armor all the time.
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Re: A Ridiculous Problem
« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2010, 10:21:30 AM »
If you played a wizard, would you need to make sure the bonus feats made you actively worse? 

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Re: A Ridiculous Problem
« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2010, 10:44:51 AM »
Cheese the "Able to cast ninth level spells"?

Get rebuking on a good aligned character (automatically violates your alignment to use DMM:Heighten)
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