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DM help?
« on: March 04, 2010, 11:11:09 PM »
I'm currently DMing a game where the PCs will gain sole control of a flying magical city and I need help making sure it will be usefull as a transport and siege weapon but wont totally annihilate everything they come across. I thought I might as well ask here as you guys can break just about anything lol.

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Re: DM help?
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2010, 11:13:09 PM »
Need more specifics.  What sort of stats does this flying city have?  How much can it transport?  How much can the PCs sell it for? etc.

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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2010, 11:14:20 PM »
give it a medium speed, like about the average speed of a horse-drawn wagon.  for armaments, give it ballistae and catapults. make sure to use the seige weapon rules for aiming; namely, profession(siege engineer).

as long as they are starting above level 3-4, it shouldn't be overpowered.
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2010, 11:35:31 PM »
Need more specifics.  What sort of stats does this flying city have?  How much can it transport?  How much can the PCs sell it for? etc.

Being a city it is several miles across, its protected by a magic wall around it and a giant force shield (probabl somthing like mage armor in description) it attacks by channeling elemental energy through crystals on the walls as beams. No actual stats yet though. I dont know who would buy a floating city either...

It was made by a cilisation with advanced magical and tech combinations (guns that shoot elemental energy etc) the rest of the world is core D&D tech

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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2010, 11:56:25 PM »
magic ballista, 5d6 recharge 1 minute. In  Heroes of Battle.

Check the carrying capacity of colossal animated objects, then check what 24H flight goes for, these days. 12x5x800gp, or 48000GP, it seems use-activated 2/day 12h flight effect.

64200lbs heavy load per colossal creature, presuming they're also equipped with a 36000gp +6 STR item, and are quadrupeds. (how this works I dunnoo.....) Just have multiple of those linked up to get an any-size flying fortress.

You could also check out the Stronghold Builder's Guidebook, but basically it's cost of building + cost of permanent animate object, + cost of 24 H of flight, + cost of +6 STR item, per... about 50ft by 50ft, actually, considering the 30ft face and 20ft reach. A moderately sized house, then.
3000XP for the permanency...
A Galley is 30 000 GP, and is 130ft long, 20ft wide. So, a flying ship base would be 112000GP.

The basic trick is, an animated object is a creature, and thus valid target to various boosts.

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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2010, 12:18:22 AM »
Having it as an unintelligent creature is an interesting idea. I was going to have it as an artefact but it might be easier that way.

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Re: DM help?
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2010, 02:17:08 AM »
I'm currently DMing a game where the PCs will gain sole control of a flying magical city and I need help making sure it will be usefull as a transport and siege weapon but wont totally annihilate everything they come across. I thought I might as well ask here as you guys can break just about anything lol.

Honestly, if you want it useful as a siege weapon don't put any weapons onto it.

Just give it the fly speed and let the PCs drop rocks off the edges.
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Re: DM help?
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2010, 02:42:00 AM »

Honestly, if you want it useful as a siege weapon don't put any weapons onto it.

Just give it the fly speed and let the PCs drop rocks off the edges.
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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2010, 02:44:05 AM »
Third it.

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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2010, 02:47:56 AM »
I'm currently DMing a game where the PCs will gain sole control of a flying magical city and I need help making sure it will be usefull as a transport and siege weapon but wont totally annihilate everything they come across. I thought I might as well ask here as you guys can break just about anything lol.

I'll address this issue as mechanically you can do that in a lot of ways but an even easier way is through the story. If they should start attacking cities/enemies with the flying magical city than that will naturally bring about attention to them and their kick ass flying magical city.

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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2010, 03:59:11 AM »
I'm currently DMing a game where the PCs will gain sole control of a flying magical city and I need help making sure it will be usefull as a transport and siege weapon but wont totally annihilate everything they come across. I thought I might as well ask here as you guys can break just about anything lol.

I'll address this issue as mechanically you can do that in a lot of ways but an even easier way is through the story. If they should start attacking cities/enemies with the flying magical city than that will naturally bring about attention to them and their kick ass flying magical city.
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The obvious thing to me is that you should make sure they can't land it on anything.  That would be my way of dealing w/ anything that offended me sufficiently if I had a floating city ...

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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2010, 08:04:12 PM »
I'm currently DMing a game where the PCs will gain sole control of a flying magical city and I need help making sure it will be usefull as a transport and siege weapon but wont totally annihilate everything they come across. I thought I might as well ask here as you guys can break just about anything lol.

I'll address this issue as mechanically you can do that in a lot of ways but an even easier way is through the story. If they should start attacking cities/enemies with the flying magical city than that will naturally bring about attention to them and their kick ass flying magical city.
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The obvious thing to me is that you should make sure they can't land it on anything.  That would be my way of dealing w/ anything that offended me sufficiently if I had a floating city ...
it would deal 20d6+(1d6 per 200 lbs. of weight) if you drop it on them. that's a lot
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Re: DM help?
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2010, 08:38:07 PM »
That would be an aweful lot of damage... saying it cant land should solve that then. Characters will be level 15/16 at this point though so i know they will be able to dish out the damage as is