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Loredrake gives +2 effective Sorcerer levels, seemingly only for casting.

White Dragonspawn gives 1 effective Sorcerer level.

How many HD does a White Dragonspawn Dragonwrought Loredrake Sorcerer1 have?
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Re: White Dragonspawn Dragonwrought Loredrake Sorcerer1: How many HD?
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2010, 07:44:03 PM »
One.

HD=/=Caster level (or effective sorcerer level, in this case).
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Re: White Dragonspawn Dragonwrought Loredrake Sorcerer1: How many HD?
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2010, 07:45:36 PM »
For terms of progressing class features (mostly a Familiar), how many Sorcerer levels does this creature have?
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Does it bug anyone else that we've reached the point where characters who can obliterate a greater deity in one round are considered "decent?"

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Re: White Dragonspawn Dragonwrought Loredrake Sorcerer1: How many HD?
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2010, 07:47:09 PM »
For terms of progressing class features (mostly a Familiar), how many Sorcerer levels does this creature have?
To answer that, I'd have to look at the exact wording of both, but I think it's casting only off the top of my head, so also one.
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Re: White Dragonspawn Dragonwrought Loredrake Sorcerer1: How many HD?
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2010, 07:48:37 PM »
HD1 LA +1 Effective Sorceror Level 4 at ECL 2.

This is of course, assuming that a dragonwrought kobold can be a Loredrake (I won't get into it, if its allowed at your table good for you)

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Re: White Dragonspawn Dragonwrought Loredrake Sorcerer1: How many HD?
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2010, 07:54:53 PM »
For terms of progressing class features (mostly a Familiar), how many Sorcerer levels does this creature have?
One. I'm fairly certain that none of those abilities advance the sorcerer's "other" class feature. I'm about to (hopefully) start playing one of these soon. :D
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Re: White Dragonspawn Dragonwrought Loredrake Sorcerer1: How many HD?
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2010, 07:59:19 PM »
White Dragonspawn has this clause.
Spellcasting (Su): All spawn gain the ability to cast as 1st level Sorcerers.  If the base creature possessed levels in already Sorcerer, then the dragonspawn's effective Sorcerer level increases by +1.

Loredrake has similar wording.
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Does it bug anyone else that we've reached the point where characters who can obliterate a greater deity in one round are considered "decent?"

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Re: White Dragonspawn Dragonwrought Loredrake Sorcerer1: How many HD?
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2010, 08:12:40 PM »
White Dragonspawn has this clause.
Spellcasting (Su): All spawn gain the ability to cast as 1st level Sorcerers.  If the base creature possessed levels in already Sorcerer, then the dragonspawn's effective Sorcerer level increases by +1.

Loredrake has similar wording.

You forgot to mention the other cost for Loredrake (the part that makes this iffy for Kobolds) that the dragon gives up its special casting abilities (ie the ability to cast cleric spells from X domains in it's sorceror slots).

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Re: White Dragonspawn Dragonwrought Loredrake Sorcerer1: How many HD?
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2010, 08:23:25 PM »
White Dragonspawn has this clause.
Spellcasting (Su): All spawn gain the ability to cast as 1st level Sorcerers.  If the base creature possessed levels in already Sorcerer, then the dragonspawn's effective Sorcerer level increases by +1.

Loredrake has similar wording.

You forgot to mention the other cost for Loredrake (the part that makes this iffy for Kobolds) that the dragon gives up its special casting abilities (ie the ability to cast cleric spells from X domains in it's sorceror slots).
Fortunately, that's actually already addressed in the soverign archetype rules.  If you don't have it, you still can take the archetype.
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Re: White Dragonspawn Dragonwrought Loredrake Sorcerer1: How many HD?
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2010, 10:18:23 PM »
Assume I went White Dragonspawn Dragonwrought Loredrake Sorcerer1.  For my familiar/s purposes, how many Sorcerer levels do I have?
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Speaking of which:
Don't even need TO for this.  Any decent Hood build, especially one with Celerity, one-rounds [Azathoth, the most powerful greater deity from d20 Cthulu].
Does it bug anyone else that we've reached the point where characters who can obliterate a greater deity in one round are considered "decent?"

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Re: White Dragonspawn Dragonwrought Loredrake Sorcerer1: How many HD?
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2010, 10:24:23 PM »
Assume I went White Dragonspawn Dragonwrought Loredrake Sorcerer1.  For my familiar/s purposes, how many Sorcerer levels do I have?

Your familiar is that of a 1st level Sorcerer.  You cast as a 4th level Sorcerer.   You are a 2nd level character with one hit dice.  And a White Dragon owns you (but as a Kobold, that's an honor).

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Re: White Dragonspawn Dragonwrought Loredrake Sorcerer1: How many HD?
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2010, 11:20:11 AM »
my question is how do you qualify for White Dragonspawn? Do you apply the template before the feat changes your type?
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Re: White Dragonspawn Dragonwrought Loredrake Sorcerer1: How many HD?
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2010, 12:04:50 PM »
my question is how do you qualify for White Dragonspawn? Do you apply the template before the feat changes your type?
I think dragonspawn breed true, so he could as long as he was born one rather than being turned into one after being hatched.
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