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Re: Refluffing 3.5 psionics as sorcerery. Help wanted.
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2010, 09:30:20 PM »
P.S. What would you rename the psychic warrior, psychic rogue and ardent?
Wardens (though slayers could also be called wardens...), Warlocks, and Knights of the Sword.

Make spells cheesy latin/incorrect latin.

This is exactly what I've been thinking would perfectly represent the Dresdenverse.  :p

Alright, so only marginally helpful, but thought it should be pointed out. I fully support the thought that it should be done as such.

Well, I did think that the 3.5 psionics system made perfect sense for Dresdenverse wizards. In fact I plan on mentioning the Dresden Files in the flavor text for the newly minted sorcerer (reflavored psion) class. Also sorcerers can use cheesy Latin/Greek/Ancient Egyptian all they want for personal spell names and verbal components. I have a few other example sorcerers and sorceresses in mind too.

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Re: Refluffing 3.5 psionics as sorcerery. Help wanted.
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2010, 09:36:15 PM »
Even sorcerer, mystic knight and occult templar?

P.S. I figured that since ardent is a psionic version of the cleric class that a more sorcerous name for it should include the word templar. This is due to the fact that the cleric class was partially inspired by the Knights Templar and other millitant orders from the Crusades and Middle Ages.

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Re: Refluffing 3.5 psionics as sorcerery. Help wanted.
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2010, 05:44:24 AM »
I just gave more magical names to a large number psychokenesis sub-powers, namely the Energy _ line. Please tell me what you think.
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Re: Refluffing 3.5 psionics as sorcerery. Help wanted.
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2010, 03:57:46 AM »
I'd still like some help you know. I'm running into a creative brick wall right now.

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Re: Refluffing 3.5 psionics as sorcerery. Help wanted.
« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2010, 02:00:06 PM »
Some naming suggestions:
Synesthete- Smyth's Sensory Switch?
Elfsight- you could keep this one, it's appropriate enough to be ported wholesale
Share Pain- Vitality Transference
Energy Adaptation-
(sonic) Shriek Dampener
Fuse Flesh- Maeda's Morphic Failure
Suspend Life- Personal Stasis Field
Energy Conversion- Agathion's Energy Capacitor
Oak Body- this one seems to convert fine too
Shadow Body- Aevaline's Dimensional Reductor
True Metabolism- Assertions of Wholeness

Thicken Skin- Beasthide
Chameleon- this one converts fine too
Empathic Transfer- Vitality Gift
Ectoplasmic Form- this one is basically Gaseous Form isn't it?
Hustle- converts fine too
Metamorphosis- likewise
Psychic Vampire- Mana Drain
Psionic Revivify- just drop the psi
Psychofeedback- Smyth's Physical Roulette
Restore Extremity- Extremity Reconstructor
Fission- works fine
Fusion- works fine
Metamorphosis, Greater- works fine

Energy Ray-varies
(fire) Flare Arrow
(cold) Freeze Bolt
(electricity) Lightning Dart
(sonic) Thunder Bullet
Far Hand- this is Mage Hand isn't it?
Matter Agitation- Fuegor's Slow Incineration, side note, this power is sorta wimpy
Concussion Blast- Telekinetic Crush
Energy Burst-varies
(fire) Flame Eruption
(cold) Heat Sink
(electricity) Voltaic Detonation
(sonic) Scream
Mental Barrier- this is just an augmentable Deflect
Telekenitic Force- more or less works as is
Telekenitic Thrust- see above
Telekenitic Maneuver- see above

Evokers only

Control Object- Puppeteer
Control Air- This is basically Control Winds, isn't it?
Energy Missile-varies
(fire) Flame Fullisade
(cold) Icy Shower
(electricity) Fulguric Jolt
(sonic) Sound Cutter
Energy Cone-varies
(fire) Fireblast
(cold) Freezing Spray
(electricity) Galvanic Eruption
(sonic) Shout
Control Body- Body Puppet
Energy Ball-varies
(fire) Fireball
(cold) Frost Bomb
(electricity) Shockstorm
(sonic) Thunderblast
Inertial Barrier- Impact Ward
Energy Current-varies
(fire) Ignition Spirit
(cold) Icy Coil
(electricity) Overcharge
(sonic) Dreadful Wretched Noise
Fiery Discorporation- seems to work fine
Dispelling Buffer- likewise
Null Psionic Field- this is an AMF
Reddopsi- this is just spell turning
Telekinetic Sphere, Psionic- this is the same as the arcane one
Tornado Blast-  name works

Levitate, Psionic- just drop the psi
Astral Caravan-Sailing Through an Ocean of Night
Dimensional Anchor, Psionic- drop psi
Dismissal, Psionic- drop psi
Fly, Psionic- drop psi
Baleful Teleport- Rending Translocation
Teleport, Psionic- drop psi
Banishment, Psionic- drop psi
Dream Travel- works fine
Ethereal Jaunt, Psionic- drop psi
Teleportation Circle, Psionic- drop psi
Time Regression- Rewind
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Re: Refluffing 3.5 psionics as sorcerery. Help wanted.
« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2010, 07:07:06 PM »
Some naming suggestions:
Synesthete- Smyth's Sensory Switch?
Elfsight- you could keep this one, it's appropriate enough to be ported wholesale
Share Pain- Vitality Transference
Energy Adaptation-
(sonic) Shriek Dampener
Fuse Flesh- Maeda's Morphic Failure
Suspend Life- Personal Stasis Field
Energy Conversion- Agathion's Energy Capacitor
Oak Body- this one seems to convert fine too
Shadow Body- Aevaline's Dimensional Reductor
True Metabolism- Assertions of Wholeness

Thicken Skin- Beasthide
Chameleon- this one converts fine too
Empathic Transfer- Vitality Gift
Ectoplasmic Form- this one is basically Gaseous Form isn't it?
Hustle- converts fine too
Metamorphosis- likewise
Psychic Vampire- Mana Drain
Psionic Revivify- just drop the psi
Psychofeedback- Smyth's Physical Roulette
Restore Extremity- Extremity Reconstructor
Fission- works fine
Fusion- works fine
Metamorphosis, Greater- works fine

Energy Ray-varies
(fire) Flare Arrow
(cold) Freeze Bolt
(electricity) Lightning Dart
(sonic) Thunder Bullet
Far Hand- this is Mage Hand isn't it?
Matter Agitation- Fuegor's Slow Incineration, side note, this power is sorta wimpy
Concussion Blast- Telekinetic Crush
Energy Burst-varies
(fire) Flame Eruption
(cold) Heat Sink
(electricity) Voltaic Detonation
(sonic) Scream
Mental Barrier- this is just an augmentable Deflect
Telekenitic Force- more or less works as is
Telekenitic Thrust- see above
Telekenitic Maneuver- see above

Evokers only

Control Object- Puppeteer
Control Air- This is basically Control Winds, isn't it?
Energy Missile-varies
(fire) Flame Fullisade
(cold) Icy Shower
(electricity) Fulguric Jolt
(sonic) Sound Cutter
Energy Cone-varies
(fire) Fireblast
(cold) Freezing Spray
(electricity) Galvanic Eruption
(sonic) Shout
Control Body- Body Puppet
Energy Ball-varies
(fire) Fireball
(cold) Frost Bomb
(electricity) Shockstorm
(sonic) Thunderblast
Inertial Barrier- Impact Ward
Energy Current-varies
(fire) Ignition Spirit
(cold) Icy Coil
(electricity) Overcharge
(sonic) Dreadful Wretched Noise
Fiery Discorporation- seems to work fine
Dispelling Buffer- likewise
Null Psionic Field- this is an AMF
Reddopsi- this is just spell turning
Telekinetic Sphere, Psionic- this is the same as the arcane one
Tornado Blast-  name works

Levitate, Psionic- just drop the psi
Astral Caravan-Sailing Through an Ocean of Night
Dimensional Anchor, Psionic- drop psi
Dismissal, Psionic- drop psi
Fly, Psionic- drop psi
Baleful Teleport- Rending Translocation
Teleport, Psionic- drop psi
Banishment, Psionic- drop psi
Dream Travel- works fine
Ethereal Jaunt, Psionic- drop psi
Teleportation Circle, Psionic- drop psi
Time Regression- Rewind


It's just perfect. Good job veekie.

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Re: Refluffing 3.5 psionics as sorcerery. Help wanted.
« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2010, 07:13:24 PM »
A wilder is just a sorcerer who draws his power from the voices inside his head, telling him to kill people.
It always seems like the barrels around here have something in them.

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Re: Refluffing 3.5 psionics as sorcerery. Help wanted.
« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2010, 07:55:13 PM »
A wilder is just a sorcerer who draws his power from the voices inside his head, telling him to kill people.

So call it wild mage, dementalist or mystic.

P.S. Not all of the voices want you to kill people.
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Re: Refluffing 3.5 psionics as sorcerery. Help wanted.
« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2010, 08:14:52 PM »
This thread may be relevant to your interests.

I've read it before. I'm from Giant in the Playground Forums. And I like the idea of both Vancian magic (now to be known as wizardry) and psionics as magic (now to be known as sorcerery) coexisting. Though I do have a Vancian magic variant that makes it even more Vancian by divorcing preparetion slots from spell levels and making it a limited number of spells memorized at any one time instead of per day.

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Re: Refluffing 3.5 psionics as sorcerery. Help wanted.
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2010, 08:30:58 PM »
A wilder is just a sorcerer who draws his power from the voices inside his head, telling him to kill people.

So call it wild mage, dementalist or mystic.

P.S. Not all of the voices want you to kill people.
The voices just tell you HOW to kill people.
Most adventurers usually find the reason for themselves.
The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

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Re: Refluffing 3.5 psionics as sorcerery. Help wanted.
« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2010, 09:24:17 PM »
This thread may be relevant to your interests.

I've read it before. I'm from Giant in the Playground Forums. And I like the idea of both Vancian magic (now to be known as wizardry) and psionics as magic (now to be known as sorcerery) coexisting. Though I do have a Vancian magic variant that makes it even more Vancian by divorcing preparetion slots from spell levels and making it a limited number of spells memorized at any one time instead of per day.
Didn't vancian magic have more powerful spells take more memorization?  So you could have like a fifth level memorized or a second and third?
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Re: Refluffing 3.5 psionics as sorcerery. Help wanted.
« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2010, 10:23:04 PM »
This thread may be relevant to your interests.

I've read it before. I'm from Giant in the Playground Forums. And I like the idea of both Vancian magic (now to be known as wizardry) and psionics as magic (now to be known as sorcerery) coexisting. Though I do have a Vancian magic variant that makes it even more Vancian by divorcing preparetion slots from spell levels and making it a limited number of spells memorized at any one time instead of per day.
Didn't vancian magic have more powerful spells take more memorization?  So you could have like a fifth level memorized or a second and third?

I don't think so. More time to prepare them perhaps.

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Re: Refluffing 3.5 psionics as sorcerery. Help wanted.
« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2010, 11:32:27 PM »
I could have sworn one of the stories had a guy talking about how he had memorized three of the lesser spells instead of a single more powerful one.
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Re: Refluffing 3.5 psionics as sorcerery. Help wanted.
« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2010, 11:49:42 PM »
I could have sworn one of the stories had a guy talking about how he had memorized three of the lesser spells instead of a single more powerful one.

You may be right. I just couldn't finish reading that Dying Earth collection I checked out. It was just turgid and verbally dull.

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Re: Refluffing 3.5 psionics as sorcerery. Help wanted.
« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2010, 09:20:20 PM »
I'm going to need some more help renaming powers into spells. I'm very good at starting projects like these but right now I'm drawing a creative blank.
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Re: Refluffing 3.5 psionics as sorcerery. Help wanted.
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2010, 10:52:18 PM »
I've added quite a few powers I'd like help reflavorong as spells if anyone is interested.

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Re: Refluffing 3.5 psionics as sorcerery. Help wanted.
« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2010, 06:26:01 PM »
Metacreativity-Conjuration
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Conjurers only

Astral Construct- Aetheric Contraption
Psionic Minor Creation- Drop psi
Psionic Repair Damage- Reconstruction
Greater Concealing Amorpha- this is just Displacement under another name
Ectoplasmic Cocoon- Chain Bind
Psionic Fabricate- drop psi
Quintessence- Distill Time
Hail of Crystals- Razor Grenade
Crystallize- keep, it's just petrify with crystal anyway
Greater Psionic Fabricate- drop the psi
Mass Ectoplasmic Cocoon- Mass Bondage
Astral Seed- Hidden Life Spark
Genesis- descriptive
True Creation- more or less accurate[/spoiler]
Telepathy-MentalismMentalists only

Psionic Charm- drop psi
Mindlink- name works
Aversion-  Disgust Impulse
Brain Lock- Mental Halt
Read Thoughts- works
Psionic Suggestion- drop psi
Crisis of Breath - Suffocation Impulse
Hostile Empathic Transfer- Vitality Theft, should be transmutation I think, considering the lesser version
False Sensory Input- Sensory Corruption
Psionic Dominate- drop psi
Thieving Mindlink- Mental Tap
Psionic Modify Memory- drop psi
Schism- works
Metaconcert- Circle Casting
Mind Probe- works
Mind Switch- works
Crisis of Life- Existential Crisis
Mind Seed- Mindworm
True Mind Switch- works
Psychic Chirurgery- works[/spoiler]

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The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
[/spoiler]

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Re: Refluffing 3.5 psionics as sorcerery. Help wanted.
« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2010, 07:54:44 PM »
Added but not yet fully edited or bolded. And I'm also going to be moving quite a few powers/spells out mentalism into far more suitible paths/dicsiplines.
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Re: Refluffing 3.5 psionics as sorcerery. Help wanted.
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2010, 06:48:59 AM »
I've just made those final edits and moved a few mentalism spells into new traditions. I'm even editing my own personal files as part of this reflavoring project.