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Re: Anyone wanna take a quick spin in my world?
« Reply #240 on: March 08, 2010, 01:04:08 AM »
It's just that style. I said sentai/kamen/henshin before. It's all the same idea.

@Nite: The only pre-req's are the regions for FMI, which is sort of mutable flavor, and Good alignment for Nymph's Kiss since it's an Exalted feat. Were you planning on not being Good?

I can see why, as a Factotum, you'd want more skill points, but is it worth the feat slot?

The term you're looking for is henshin hero. (See Kamen Rider.)

Because Gundams have been known to be piloted by super soldiers.
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It's just that style. I said sentai/kamen/henshin before. It's all the same idea.

@Nite: The only pre-req's are the regions for FMI, which is sort of mutable flavor, and Good alignment for Nymph's Kiss since it's an Exalted feat. Were you planning on not being Good?

I can see why, as a Factotum, you'd want more skill points, but is it worth the feat slot?

The region prerequisites are waived. However, an Exalted feat is an Exalted feat... The vast majority of them come from being nicer than your average good guy.

Granted, I'm not very strict as far as Good goes, so I won't ask you to go two thousand miles out of your way to keep Exalted status, but you start going on a baby kobold rampage and that's it for you.
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« Reply #241 on: March 08, 2010, 01:12:19 AM »
I'll have you know that that baby kobold was going to grow up to be kobold Hitler.

And you can't prove otherwise.   :smirk
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Re: Anyone wanna take a quick spin in my world?
« Reply #242 on: March 08, 2010, 02:52:20 AM »
@Nite: The only pre-req's are the regions for FMI, which is sort of mutable flavor, and Good alignment for Nymph's Kiss since it's an Exalted feat.

You're wrong. Hint: Passion.

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The region prerequisites are waived. However, an Exalted feat is an Exalted feat... The vast majority of them come from being nicer than your average good guy.

Granted, I'm not very strict as far as Good goes, so I won't ask you to go two thousand miles out of your way to keep Exalted status, but you start going on a baby kobold rampage and that's it for you.


Quantity vs. quality.

I can see why, as a Factotum, you'd want more skill points, but is it worth the feat slot?


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Re: Anyone wanna take a quick spin in my world?
« Reply #243 on: March 08, 2010, 03:35:15 AM »
I'll have you know that that baby kobold was going to grow up to be kobold Hitler.

And you can't prove otherwise.   :smirk

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Re: Anyone wanna take a quick spin in my world?
« Reply #244 on: March 08, 2010, 03:39:42 AM »
@phaedrusXY: Since you'll be possessing my character most of the time, what d'you say we make some backstory to back a relationship that intimate up? say, my character was developed as a supersoldier, but wanted to escape, your character helped break down the mental control that the developers used to control him, as a consequence i trust you enough to let you control me willingly.

speaking of which: Kuro, i assume supersoldier creation is at leat moderately use in your world. any corporations that are not all too powerful(wouldn't be nice if the better part of the world were on my ass) that can have created me?
also, can we get some pricings on modern items compared to the wealth DC of modern?
and what about proficiencies? what modern weapon proficiencies do you get when you normally have martial weapons?
(this means that i'd like to spend the rest of my money on bombs and guns)

Glad to see people getting involved.  :D

Yes, supersoldier creation could be about. However, compared to the relative efficiency of the Expel Soldier system, a supersoldier would be considered obsolete.

Putting in simple terms: the Expel Soldier system basically enables a complex form of using Magic Jar over long distances and periods of time. With the advent of magic as a mainstay power in military, it quickly became obvious that infantry was more or less entirely pointless "as-was" - in order for a soldier to withstand vicious amounts of punishment, he was required to either have such indestructible health (read: Con score) or experience (read: levels) that mass-producing an effective infantry-based fighting force would be practically impossible. Constructs, while relatively easy to manufacture, simply did not have the judgement capability of a soldier, and Warforged, while possessing that capability, stumbled right back where things had started. In order to address that particular need, supersoldier research was the first step, but as it turns out, taking a regular soldier and buffing him up took a little too long to do on an army scale, and permanently buffing groups of soldiers posed significant risk when their capabilities weren't called for. Thus, the Expel Soldier system, which basically has soldiers possessing suits of armor from a very long distance apart were devised. The suits were easy to mass-produce and enhance, were harder to destroy (because they were objects, not creatures), didn't submit soldiers to pain and physical stress, and ensured a soldier wouldn't simply go on a rampage if he felt like it when off-duty. There are records of massive suits being created for open warfare (think Gundam-scaled mecha), but given that the world has had no reason whatsoever for large-scale battles on a global scale in 1500 years, they simply haven't been used.

Ok, so there's no way they would bother searching for me

What about that pricing? its the only thing missing to complete my character.

Also, do we also use the Tome base classes?
AND: can i take the command feat(RoW)
otherwise, i take the Unstoppable Force Fighting style, mastering all weapons that rely on weight to deal damage, such as axes, hammers, et cetera. Tne unstoppable force style dictates that if you can swing your weapons hard enough, no amount of skill can prevent your opponent from dying.
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Re: Anyone wanna take a quick spin in my world?
« Reply #245 on: March 08, 2010, 05:16:45 AM »
@Nite: The only pre-req's are the regions for FMI, which is sort of mutable flavor, and Good alignment for Nymph's Kiss since it's an Exalted feat.

You're wrong. Hint: Passion.

I was wrong, but not by your answer. The prerequisite limits the feat to certain races, and activation of any one of the benefits requires access to those races' ability to Trance; However, these prerequisites are often waived.

There is no prerequisite of 'passion' and the "Passions" benefit does not contain anything to counteract what I've said about prerequisites for the feat.
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Re: Anyone wanna take a quick spin in my world?
« Reply #246 on: March 08, 2010, 05:22:01 AM »
There exists no feat simply named "Command", nor in "Races of the Wild".

re: prerequisites: @VennDygrem: You take a long time to say nothing.
re: trance: A tallfellow halfling qualifies. Point: it's not an Elf's racially exclusive trance.
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« Reply #247 on: March 08, 2010, 05:25:45 AM »
There exists no feat simply named "Command", nor in "Races of the Wild".

He's referring to Races of War (RoW), which is a Frank and K "Tome" sourcebook. It contains different rules variants, as well as variants for races, feats, etc.

He's specifically referring to the "Command" feat from that source.

And if Tome Feats were allowed (provisionally, of course, on a case-by-case basis), I might just have to alter my feat progression. :P)

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« Reply #248 on: March 08, 2010, 05:33:21 AM »
re: prerequisites: @VennDygrem: You take a long time to say nothing.

Make no mistake, I had no intention of being offensive. I was merely clarifying the facts; those being that there are no prerequisites for the Faerie Mysteries Initiate feat that should prevent you from selecting it, though there remains the fact that its prerequisites could, RAW, prevent you from taking the feat if you are not of the listed races. As with all things, it's up to the DM, but he already OK'd it.

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Re: Anyone wanna take a quick spin in my world?
« Reply #249 on: March 08, 2010, 09:38:36 AM »
There exists no feat simply named "Command", nor in "Races of the Wild".

He's referring to Races of War (RoW), which is a Frank and K "Tome" sourcebook. It contains different rules variants, as well as variants for races, feats, etc.

He's specifically referring to the "Command" feat from that source.

And if Tome Feats were allowed (provisionally, of course, on a case-by-case basis), I might just have to alter my feat progression. :P)

well, phaedrus is using Stranger with the Burning eyes.

also, may i use the fighter variant from Races of War?
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Re: Anyone wanna take a quick spin in my world?
« Reply #250 on: March 08, 2010, 09:57:53 AM »
@phaedrusXY: Since you'll be possessing my character most of the time, what d'you say we make some backstory to back a relationship that intimate up? say, my character was developed as a supersoldier, but wanted to escape, your character helped break down the mental control that the developers used to control him, as a consequence i trust you enough to let you control me willingly.

speaking of which: Kuro, i assume supersoldier creation is at leat moderately use in your world. any corporations that are not all too powerful(wouldn't be nice if the better part of the world were on my ass) that can have created me?
also, can we get some pricings on modern items compared to the wealth DC of modern?
and what about proficiencies? what modern weapon proficiencies do you get when you normally have martial weapons?
(this means that i'd like to spend the rest of my money on bombs and guns)

Glad to see people getting involved.  :D

Yes, supersoldier creation could be about. However, compared to the relative efficiency of the Expel Soldier system, a supersoldier would be considered obsolete.

Putting in simple terms: the Expel Soldier system basically enables a complex form of using Magic Jar over long distances and periods of time. With the advent of magic as a mainstay power in military, it quickly became obvious that infantry was more or less entirely pointless "as-was" - in order for a soldier to withstand vicious amounts of punishment, he was required to either have such indestructible health (read: Con score) or experience (read: levels) that mass-producing an effective infantry-based fighting force would be practically impossible. Constructs, while relatively easy to manufacture, simply did not have the judgement capability of a soldier, and Warforged, while possessing that capability, stumbled right back where things had started. In order to address that particular need, supersoldier research was the first step, but as it turns out, taking a regular soldier and buffing him up took a little too long to do on an army scale, and permanently buffing groups of soldiers posed significant risk when their capabilities weren't called for. Thus, the Expel Soldier system, which basically has soldiers possessing suits of armor from a very long distance apart were devised. The suits were easy to mass-produce and enhance, were harder to destroy (because they were objects, not creatures), didn't submit soldiers to pain and physical stress, and ensured a soldier wouldn't simply go on a rampage if he felt like it when off-duty. There are records of massive suits being created for open warfare (think Gundam-scaled mecha), but given that the world has had no reason whatsoever for large-scale battles on a global scale in 1500 years, they simply haven't been used.

Ok, so there's no way they would bother searching for me

What about that pricing? its the only thing missing to complete my character.

Also, do we also use the Tome base classes?
AND: can i take the command feat(RoW)
otherwise, i take the Unstoppable Force Fighting style, mastering all weapons that rely on weight to deal damage, such as axes, hammers, et cetera. Tne unstoppable force style dictates that if you can swing your weapons hard enough, no amount of skill can prevent your opponent from dying.

Oh, I'm sure a dastardly enough company would seek to eliminate the "mistakes" of the past. How'd you think supersoldiers became scarce in the first place? (After all, much of their mucking around was basically using magic to add templates to people. Even freaks reproduce. Freaks with too much testosterone, even far moreso.)
You may use the Tome base classes, but they're not mandatory by any means.
To what pricing do you refer? There's a freaking ton of questions in this thread.

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Re: Anyone wanna take a quick spin in my world?
« Reply #251 on: March 08, 2010, 10:01:57 AM »
i meant the pricing of items from d20 modern. you know, since we're supposed to use those stats for modern weapons. but modern doesn't have gp prices, it has wealth DC's. so can we get some sort of way of calculating the gp price based on wealth DC?

AND: the command feat. and the fighting school feat. races of war. any of them allowed?
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« Reply #252 on: March 08, 2010, 10:24:31 AM »
i meant the pricing of items from d20 modern. you know, since we're supposed to use those stats for modern weapons. but modern doesn't have gp prices, it has wealth DC's. so can we get some sort of way of calculating the gp price based on wealth DC?

AND: the command feat. and the fighting school feat. races of war. any of them allowed?

I see no problem with those feats.

And I believe I already mentioned to skip the mundane cost of weapons when buying them? Let's face it, the least weapon you'll buy that'll make a dent in your wallet is masterwork, so that's all you really need to pay.
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« Reply #253 on: March 08, 2010, 10:37:20 AM »
i meant the pricing of items from d20 modern. you know, since we're supposed to use those stats for modern weapons. but modern doesn't have gp prices, it has wealth DC's. so can we get some sort of way of calculating the gp price based on wealth DC?

AND: the command feat. and the fighting school feat. races of war. any of them allowed?

I see no problem with those feats.

And I believe I already mentioned to skip the mundane cost of weapons when buying them? Let's face it, the least weapon you'll buy that'll make a dent in your wallet is masterwork, so that's all you really need to pay.

oh.

but what about items i'm going to buy a LOT of?
like, a c4 charge?

also, how 'bout the juggernaut, subtle cut and weapon finesse in RoW(last two for my cohort)

and proficiencies for modern weapons? do i automatically get those with my class-based Martial wep proficiency, or do i have to waste a feat?

edit: and if my cohort is a Tauric creature, does it count as mounted for the mounted combat feat?
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« Reply #254 on: March 08, 2010, 01:24:11 PM »
Is anyone going to be able to cast mage armor on me?  Having an AC of 24 would be nice.
Buy me a Knowstone of it, and I will. I don't really want to drop a spell known on it. I've already got one taken up by Horde Gullet now... unless someone wants to buy a Knowstone of that, too. Knowstones are only 1000 gp for 1st level spells. They're from Dragon (I forget which issue...) and add spells known to your list, and are priced like Pearls of Power.

I also "upgraded" my character a bit, buying Versatile Spellcaster via the DCFS and adding Planar Binding (not lesser) to his Runestaff. So now he can bind 12 HD outsiders or elementals to use and/or possess. I went ahead and stuck Magic Circle in there, also, in case I want to actually use them for something besides possession. I don't have Dimensional Anchor, though. So we won't be able to bind anything with teleportation abilities unless we burn a scroll of that on it or something.

I ditched Wings of the Dragon and just took Alter Self as a spell known instead. You can get a higher fly speed from that, for a spell slot 3 levels lower. :P
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« Reply #255 on: March 08, 2010, 01:36:49 PM »
i meant the pricing of items from d20 modern. you know, since we're supposed to use those stats for modern weapons. but modern doesn't have gp prices, it has wealth DC's. so can we get some sort of way of calculating the gp price based on wealth DC?

AND: the command feat. and the fighting school feat. races of war. any of them allowed?

I see no problem with those feats.

And I believe I already mentioned to skip the mundane cost of weapons when buying them? Let's face it, the least weapon you'll buy that'll make a dent in your wallet is masterwork, so that's all you really need to pay.

oh.

but what about items i'm going to buy a LOT of?
like, a c4 charge?

also, how 'bout the juggernaut, subtle cut and weapon finesse in RoW(last two for my cohort)

and proficiencies for modern weapons? do i automatically get those with my class-based Martial wep proficiency, or do i have to waste a feat?

edit: and if my cohort is a Tauric creature, does it count as mounted for the mounted combat feat?

Guv't can provide you with charges on specific missions. (The skill related to demolitions is Disable Device, by the way.)

Martial weapon proficiency covers the majority of modern firearms. However, for RPGs, gatling guns and grenade launchers, Exotic Weapon Proficiency is required. Sniper rifles of anti-tank grade and above do, as well. Since I'm THAT friggin' nice, I'll let the Tome rules for acquiring weapon proficiency work in your favor.

I'll look up those feats when I have a bit more time.

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Re: Anyone wanna take a quick spin in my world?
« Reply #256 on: March 08, 2010, 03:06:22 PM »
Is anyone going to be able to cast mage armor on me?  Having an AC of 24 would be nice.
Buy me a Knowstone of it, and I will. I don't really want to drop a spell known on it. I've already got one taken up by Horde Gullet now... unless someone wants to buy a Knowstone of that, too. Knowstones are only 1000 gp for 1st level spells. They're from Dragon (I forget which issue...) and add spells known to your list, and are priced like Pearls of Power.

I also "upgraded" my character a bit, buying Versatile Spellcaster via the DCFS and adding Planar Binding (not lesser) to his Runestaff. So now he can bind 12 HD outsiders or elementals to use and/or possess. I went ahead and stuck Magic Circle in there, also, in case I want to actually use them for something besides possession. I don't have Dimensional Anchor, though. So we won't be able to bind anything with teleportation abilities unless we burn a scroll of that on it or something.

I ditched Wings of the Dragon and just took Alter Self as a spell known instead. You can get a higher fly speed from that, for a spell slot 3 levels lower. :P

wait, you have DCFS?(or didya just buy it from a NPC spellcaster)
if so, any chance you can swap out my alertness bomus feat from maug for something actually useful(like another of those tasty combat feats)
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« Reply #257 on: March 08, 2010, 03:15:21 PM »
wait, you have DCFS?(or didya just buy it from a NPC spellcaster)
if so, any chance you can swap out my alertness bomus feat from maug for something actually useful(like another of those tasty combat feats)
I just bought it. It's kind of expensive, but worth it for me I think.
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Re: Anyone wanna take a quick spin in my world?
« Reply #258 on: March 08, 2010, 03:29:31 PM »
wait, you have DCFS?(or didya just buy it from a NPC spellcaster)
if so, any chance you can swap out my alertness bomus feat from maug for something actually useful(like another of those tasty combat feats)
I just bought it. It's kind of expensive, but worth it for me I think.
well, feats aren't that important to me, so i think i'll let it pass.
BUT I STILL NEED TO SPEND 5K!
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Re: Anyone wanna take a quick spin in my world?
« Reply #259 on: March 08, 2010, 03:41:57 PM »
wait, you have DCFS?(or didya just buy it from a NPC spellcaster)
if so, any chance you can swap out my alertness bomus feat from maug for something actually useful(like another of those tasty combat feats)
I just bought it. It's kind of expensive, but worth it for me I think.
well, feats aren't that important to me, so i think i'll let it pass.
BUT I STILL NEED TO SPEND 5K!

That's about how much a DCFS costs.
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