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Rokugan Ninja
« on: February 10, 2010, 03:56:48 PM »
Does anyone know where to find it? This link seems broken:

http://l5r.alderac.com/rpg/rokugan_ninja.pdf
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Re: Rokugan Ninja
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2010, 04:02:28 PM »
Quote from: jolt on February 10, 2010, 03:56:48 PM
Does anyone know where to find it? This link seems broken:

http://l5r.alderac.com/rpg/rokugan_ninja.pdf
The Rokugan Campaign Setting book? :P
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Re: Rokugan Ninja
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2010, 04:09:21 PM »
Thanks for the fast reply, getting it now.
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Re: Rokugan Ninja
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2010, 06:09:39 PM »
Keep in mind that the Rokugan Campaign Setting is third party.
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Re: Rokugan Ninja
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2010, 07:40:01 PM »
First hit.

Would you remind us why it's considered third-party? The intrigue surrounding the corporal instability at the time this book was published must be resurfaced.

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Google "rokugan ninja" - http://www.google.com/search?q=rokugan+ninja
"Rokugan Ninja" PDF - http://l5r.alderac.com/archive/rpg/rokugan_ninja.pdf
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Re: Rokugan Ninja
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2010, 09:43:58 PM »
It was published by Alderac Entertainment, not Wizards.
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Re: Rokugan Ninja
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2010, 10:42:44 PM »
It is one of the better 3rd party supplements and receives my endorsement  :clap
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Re: Rokugan Ninja
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2010, 11:15:01 PM »
Quote from: Bill Bisco: Eloquent Elf on February 10, 2010, 10:42:44 PM
It is one of the better 3rd party supplements and receives my endorsement  :clap
Mine too. One of the few 3rd party books that I actually bought.
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A couple of water benders, a dike, a flaming arrow, and a few barrels of blasting jelly?

Sounds like the makings of a gay porn film.
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...thanks
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Re: Rokugan Ninja
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2010, 12:17:38 AM »
rokugan and hyperconscious are the only 3rd party books I allow.
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Re: Rokugan Ninja
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2010, 01:01:15 AM »
You mean besides Nymphology right?
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Re: Rokugan Ninja
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2010, 01:58:31 AM »
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Re: Rokugan Ninja
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2010, 03:49:53 AM »
What does everyone think of the Rokugan Ninja? Overpowered? Underpowered? Balanced?

Also, Way of the Ninja (Rokugan supplement), has a feat that allows a character w/ 12 levels of ninja to gain total Concealment vs ranged attacks.
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Re: Rokugan Ninja
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2010, 10:35:42 AM »
Overpowered.

Ok, probably not but seeing how it's recommended over Rogue whom already deals 700+ with it's attacks as well as having a key place in the party (trapseeker/social) to knock a solid class like that down you know something is iffy about it. At first glance it seems, well, lame. Also it's not very theurgic (sp/what word am I wanting here?). It has Ninja Dodge! and Ninja Speed! but poor reflexes and no evasion.

Seeing how I want to say "just play an unarmed swordsage" it's probably balanced, the ToB is supposed to be better than the rest of the base melee classes.
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6: Skill based. Commoner, Expert, Samurai.
5: Mundane warrior. Barbarian, Fighter, Monk.
4: Partial casters. Adapt, Hexblade, Paladin, Ranger, Spelltheif.
3: Focused casters. Bard, Beguiler, Dread Necromancer, Martial Adapts, Warmage.
2: Full casters. Favored Soul, Psion, Sorcerer, Wu Jen.
1: Elitists. Artificer, Cleric, Druid, Wizard.
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Re: Rokugan Ninja
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2010, 11:18:19 AM »
Actually, the real version has a good reflex save, not will. The preview is incorrect.

And I think it is balanced just fine. No trapfinding and worse skills is a fair trade for higher BAB, unless you think the Thug+Sneak-Attack variant fighter is overpowered, too.

Usually I just see people dip into the Rokugan Ninja for up to 4 levels, and then dump it after that. It does have some nice synergy with classes and feats that give you bonuses vs. your dodge targets, though, since it lets you have multiple ones.
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A couple of water benders, a dike, a flaming arrow, and a few barrels of blasting jelly?

Sounds like the makings of a gay porn film.
Quote from: borsniel on September 12, 2011, 11:28:16 PM
...thanks
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Re: Rokugan Ninja
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2010, 02:20:35 PM »
As far as power level goes, it's got two cute abilities (Int to Initiative and Con mod to run speed) but other than that?  Meh.  If you wanted Int to Initiative, you probably would get more out of Factotum than Ninja anyway.  It does have some interesting proficiencies, so I often build ninjas as Rogue 1/Rokugan Ninja 1/Unarmed Swordsage 18 for that specific reason.

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Re: Rokugan Ninja
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2010, 10:45:19 PM »
Or just dip into the Master of Masks for a Gladiator Mask if you want all the proficiencies.
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Re: Rokugan Ninja
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2010, 10:46:24 PM »
Quote from: NiteCyper on February 19, 2010, 10:45:19 PM
Or just dip into the Master of Masks for a Gladiator Mask if you want all the proficiencies.
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