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Re: How you make your wizard like a spontaneous caster.
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2010, 02:50:02 PM »
But you aren't even shuffling.  You're just casting the spell once, using it as intended.
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Re: How you make your wizard like a spontaneous caster.
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2010, 03:25:20 PM »
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Dragon Magazine isn't 3rd party.

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Re: How you make your wizard like a spontaneous caster.
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2010, 04:01:07 PM »
Spellstaff is core

You should clean up the Rainment of the Four wording. I meant that each item has extra effects that are all pretty decent without the spells (and the complete set bonuses are awesome as well, free commune=omg wtf BBG!), not that freedom of movement from the item has extra effects on it.
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Re: How you make your wizard like a spontaneous caster.
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2010, 05:19:23 PM »
Technically speaking, Dragonlance Campaign Setting and Co. isn't 3rd party.

See, on top of broken stuff like Sorcerer Abominations, Reserves of Strength and the like, there's a chain of spells I found today, that are probably the most broken spells I'd seen yet.

I'm talking about 3 spells from Towers of High Sorcery (pg. 44): Arcane Staff (Lesser 3rd/Regular 5th/Greater 7th).

Effects:
Lesser (3rd) - place spell levels = INT/CHA modifier inside a Staff. Can store up to 2nd level spells.
Normal (5th) - place spell levels = Caster Level inside a Staff. Can store up to 4th level spells.
Greater (7rd) - place spell levels = INT/CHA modifier + Caster Level inside a Staff. Can store up to 6th level spells.

Problems arise when you either have a high CL, a high casting stat, or use Sanctum Spell to recharge it with itself... Now combine with the various spell restoring spells!

My own Sorcerer would realistically get 55 Spell Levels out of each 6th level slot at 20th. That's quite a bit, and with Versatile Spellcaster, could be even worse (...sure, why not let a Swiftblade store 18 Haste spells?).
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Re: How you make your wizard like a spontaneous caster.
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2010, 06:59:44 PM »
You forgot one really cheap trick. If a Hathran wizard uses a wand of Acorn of Far Travel on a tree in Rashemen, then they are considered under the tree and thus in Rashemen for as long as the acorn lasts (1 day/level).
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Re: How you make your wizard like a spontaneous caster.
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2010, 09:13:40 PM »
...oh my god. Acorn of Far Travel + Sanctum spell. You win, forever.  :twitch
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Re: How you make your wizard like a spontaneous caster.
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2010, 04:51:38 PM »
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Re: How you make your wizard like a spontaneous caster.
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2010, 07:41:40 AM »
Uh, Abyssal Specialist doesn't add descriptors. Looks like Wizard 10 is still the only way Chaos recall works...

Aligned Spellcaster from Dragon #357 does though, and it can be yours for only the price of your familiar at 1st lv...

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Re: How you make your wizard like a spontaneous caster.
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2010, 01:06:12 PM »
Neat. Can sorcerers get that? (Fiddles with Arcane Preparation)
Can it be taken as a feat, or is it an ACF? (fiddles with beguiler/warmage/dread necro and Obtain Familiar, Arcane Prep, Versatile Spellcaster...)

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Re: How you make your wizard like a spontaneous caster.
« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2010, 01:33:43 PM »
Neat. Can sorcerers get that? (Fiddles with Arcane Preparation)
Can it be taken as a feat, or is it an ACF? (fiddles with beguiler/warmage/dread necro and Obtain Familiar, Arcane Prep, Versatile Spellcaster...)

It's an ACF.

Level: 1st (4th for hexblades)
Replaces: If you select this class feature you do not gain a familiar.

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Re: How you make your wizard like a spontaneous caster.
« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2010, 04:55:31 AM »
I don't get all the hype about Mage of the Arcane Order. I mean your limited from calling spells from the spellpool to half your caster level in spell levels. Even at level 20 that's like 3 level 3 spells and one level 1 spell.

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Re: How you make your wizard like a spontaneous caster.
« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2010, 05:33:00 AM »
I'm a sorcerer.  I need to cast Gate, but all I know is time stop.  Lemme withdraw a gate, hand them a time stop.
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Re: How you make your wizard like a spontaneous caster.
« Reply #33 on: December 13, 2010, 10:33:42 PM »
Here's how you can build a wizard that does not require a spellbook but still has a lot of spell known. Combine this with Obtain Familiar and you could easily pretend to be a sorcerer. Heck, you could even go VoP with this set up.

Elf, preferably Gray

Elf Wizard Racial Sub - Races of the Wild
Eidetic Spellcaster ACF - Dragon Magazine #357
Collegiate Wizard feat - Complete Arcane

1st Level - 7+ Int mod 1st level spells known, all cantrips, 1 extra spell per day of highest level
No Familiar, No Scribe Scroll, No Spellbook

Every level after 1st that advances wizard spellcasting gets you 5 spells known for free instead of the usual 2

If you're playing in Eberron, the feat Aerenal Arcanist (Player's Guide to Eberron) will net you an additional spell known per level netting you 8+Int spells at 1st level (if you take at first level with flaws) and 6 spells known every level after that.

I recommend also taking the Spontaneous Divination ACF from Complete Champion with the build set up.

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Re: How you make your wizard like a spontaneous caster.
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2010, 02:50:18 AM »
Change "Spell Storing, <suffix>" to "Ring of Spell Storing, <suffix>" so people know what you mean.
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Re: How you make your wizard like a spontaneous caster.
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2010, 03:02:19 AM »
Here's how you can build a wizard that does not require a spellbook but still has a lot of spell known. Combine this with Obtain Familiar and you could easily pretend to be a sorcerer. Heck, you could even go VoP with this set up.

Elf, preferably Gray

Elf Wizard Racial Sub - Races of the Wild
Eidetic Spellcaster ACF - Dragon Magazine #357
Collegiate Wizard feat - Complete Arcane

1st Level - 7+ Int mod 1st level spells known, all cantrips, 1 extra spell per day of highest level
No Familiar, No Scribe Scroll, No Spellbook

Every level after 1st that advances wizard spellcasting gets you 5 spells known for free instead of the usual 2

If you're playing in Eberron, the feat Aerenal Arcanist (Player's Guide to Eberron) will net you an additional spell known per level netting you 8+Int spells at 1st level (if you take at first level with flaws) and 6 spells known every level after that.

I recommend also taking the Spontaneous Divination ACF from Complete Champion with the build set up.
Add Domain Wizard from UA. It works with the Elf Sub 1. 1 more spell known and a spell slot to cast it per spell level, and you get to cast that spell at +1 caster level.

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Re: How you make your wizard like a spontaneous caster.
« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2010, 03:14:24 AM »
I noticed you have Shalantha's Delicate Disk on your list.  I have mentioned this in other threads, but it is conjuration creation level 6 so you can emulate it without the material component using Greater shadow conjuration.  Just choose to autofail your will save so you don't have trouble storing your spells in it.  Makes these alot more practical if you want to fill up one of those familar belts with 64 or so of them.  Also a shack full of them with some shatter's mixed in will make for one big bang, I wonder how they would work with Spellguard rings.

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Re: How you make your wizard like a spontaneous caster.
« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2010, 01:23:03 AM »
Shalantha's delicate disk (Lost Empires of Faerun 33) is permanent until used.  Using shadow magic to emulate it negates its 200G material cost.

The disk is best known for the Shadowcraft Cookie trick.
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Speaking of which:
Don't even need TO for this.  Any decent Hood build, especially one with Celerity, one-rounds [Azathoth, the most powerful greater deity from d20 Cthulu].
Does it bug anyone else that we've reached the point where characters who can obliterate a greater deity in one round are considered "decent?"

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Re: How you make your wizard like a spontaneous caster.
« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2011, 11:57:54 PM »
Just don't ban too many schools there :) If you go Incantatrix, then you'll only have 3 schools (Div, Ill, and Trans) left.

Specialist: Banning 2 schools for 1 bonus spell slot a day = good
Focused Specialist: Banning 3 schools for -1 normal slots and +3 bonus spell slots = good

Changeling Specialist: Banning 3 schools for 1 bonus spell slot a day = bad
Changeling Focused Specialist: Banning 4 schools for -1 normal slots and +5 bonus spell slots = good

Note that you only have Divination, Illusion, Transmutation, + 1 more, probably Conjuration/Abjuration
You are forgetting Abyssal Specialist.

Post the book source for the changing thing and what it does on my thread please.
The changeling dual-specialist wizard ACF is from Races of Eberron, and focused specialist is from CMage. Master specialist is also from CMage. Red wizard is from the DMG, and we all know where incantatrix is from, right?

Also, the Racial Emulation feat (also from RoE) allows you to count as a gnome for shadowcraft mage.
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Re: How you make your wizard like a spontaneous caster.
« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2011, 02:35:32 AM »
Shalantha's delicate disk (Lost Empires of Faerun 33) is permanent until used.  Using shadow magic to emulate it negates its 200G material cost.

The disk is best known for the Shadowcraft Cookie trick.


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