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Nightmare on Elm Street (Reboot)
« on: February 13, 2010, 01:07:52 AM »
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This is the reboot of the franchise, starring Jackie Earl Haley in the role of Freddy Krueger.  Supposedly, this reboot takes out the comedic lines Krueger had in the original series in order to make him a more threatening villain. 

I only rarely get excited about horror movies, but I want to see this.  The dude who played Rorshach playing Freddy Krueger?  I'm down.
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Re: Nightmare on Elm Street (Reboot)
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2010, 01:38:39 PM »
Interesting.  They took Freddy and gave him a Fire subtype.  Break out the liquid nitro!

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Re: Nightmare on Elm Street (Reboot)
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2010, 08:27:45 PM »
well the first movie in the original series was more of a serious film

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Re: Nightmare on Elm Street (Reboot)
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2010, 11:21:08 AM »
I did like how Craven tried to bring some real terror back to the series with "Wes Craven's New Nightmare" back in the 90s.  That one was actually pretty good.  I enjoyed the "Freddy vs. Jason" romp as much as the next guy, but it was more hilarity than terror.

I think a good part of our society's lack of horror movies is that special effects have gotten good enough to SHOW everything.  Jaws was scary because you almost NEVER SAW THE SHARK.  Of course, this was because the 'Bruce' animatronic dummies were utter shit and kept malfunctioning all through production, but it worked out beautifully.  "Alien" was almost never seen except in short flickers in darkness.  Now we see all kinds of crazy shit all the time, and we've gotten desensitized.

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Re: Nightmare on Elm Street (Reboot)
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2010, 03:03:22 PM »
True on the part that newer movies due to technological advancements tend to showcase their monster and show a bunch of gore. But gore never the fear part. Hiding the monster is a way to build suspense but there are others. For example Cloverfield, a nonhorror genre movie, clearly showcases the monster about halfway in but you couldn't care less as you are so involved with the characters them selves they could be running from a 50ft PMSing women and it would still be a movie worth watching.

My beef is trading away fear for lame crap. Like the shared pain reaction thing our brains do that make us flinch when a torture-porn hacks off someone's leg or startling the audience with someone jumping out of the darkness. You could have replaced the guy with Winny the Pooh and still have generated that effect and if you could touch your eyeball and get dozens of people's eyes to water up. It's just not the same thing. And never slide jokes into suspense scenes, a Freddy-worm toking it with some high schooler ruins everything you could have been building up to for the last hour of show time. No puns, no jokes, and hell no to lampshading jokes. Scream is a failure and only gets watched as a comedy film.
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Re: Nightmare on Elm Street (Reboot)
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 03:08:20 PM »
I agree.  Hostel or Saw might get you to have a pain reaction, but that's not the same as crafting a good horror movie. 

I think it's always scarier when you don't see what happens.  One's imagination is usually better at filling in the details.  To give an example, I was watching It (the TV miniseries) with my ex wife and a friend, and they both said the movie was a lot less scary after the spider scene.  They had both envisioned Pennywise's true form as a lot more frightening (and my Ex is an arachnophobe).

I personally despise the flinchy, loud noise type of thing.
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Re: Nightmare on Elm Street (Reboot)
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2010, 09:12:58 PM »
I agree.  Hostel or Saw might get you to have a pain reaction, but that's not the same as crafting a good horror movie. 

I think it's always scarier when you don't see what happens.  One's imagination is usually better at filling in the details.  To give an example, I was watching It (the TV miniseries) with my ex wife and a friend, and they both said the movie was a lot less scary after the spider scene.  They had both envisioned Pennywise's true form as a lot more frightening (and my Ex is an arachnophobe).

I personally despise the flinchy, loud noise type of thing.

You know, I've never seen the "It" miniseries.  I loved the book, it's probably my favorite of King's work.  It was one of the scariest books I've ever read.  It was near-perfect for horror.  I was always afraid to see the miniseries for fear that it might ruin that book.

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Re: Nightmare on Elm Street (Reboot)
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2010, 11:16:40 PM »
It was heavily edited for television's sake, and they changed the climactic final battle a good bit, but other than that the miniseries was pretty good.

Rule of thumb, TV miniseries of Stephen King works tend to be very good to decent, movie versions tend to suffer a bit.
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Re: Nightmare on Elm Street (Reboot)
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2010, 12:48:54 AM »
Rule of thumb, TV miniseries of Stephen King works tend to be very good to decent, movie versions tend to suffer a bit.

I've never seen any of the miniseries, due mainly to the butchery that has been done in the movies.  I will admit, The Green Mile was quite good on screen, as was Shawshank Redemption, but even that latter movie paled in comparison to the novella.  Really, only the Green Mile ever came close to achieving on screen what King managed in print.

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Re: Nightmare on Elm Street (Reboot)
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2010, 10:05:09 AM »
Nothing is going to be quite like the book, and only rarely is the book not better. 

But I do know the miniseries version of The Shining and It were both very good, and so was The Stand.
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Re: Nightmare on Elm Street (Reboot)
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2010, 11:30:06 AM »
Nothing is going to be quite like the book, and only rarely is the book not better. 

But I do know the miniseries version of The Shining and It were both very good, and so was The Stand.

Didn't the Stand have Gary Sinise in it?

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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2010, 02:53:30 PM »
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