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Re: [PATHFINDER] Ask a simple question, get a silly- I mean, simple answer.
« Reply #120 on: September 06, 2010, 10:36:12 AM »
Can a Zen Archer monk flurry with a crossbow?

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Re: [PATHFINDER] Ask a simple question, get a silly- I mean, simple answer.
« Reply #121 on: September 06, 2010, 12:10:15 PM »
Q35 Can a Zen Archer monk flurry with a crossbow?
A35 : a monk can flurry with monk weapon only.
so unless the feat grants crossbow as monk weapon, it's still no.

edit : my answer was applying to the feat "zen archery" (non-PF), not to the monk ACF grom the APG
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Re: [PATHFINDER] Ask a simple question, get a silly- I mean, simple answer.
« Reply #122 on: September 06, 2010, 12:15:21 PM »
Q35 Can a Zen Archer monk flurry with a crossbow?
A35 : a monk can flurry with monk weapon only.
so unless the feat grants crossbow as monk weapon, it's still no.

It's not a feat, it's an ACF from the APG.  It states "a zen archer can make a flurry of blows as a full-attack action, but only when using a bow (even though it is a ranged weapon)."  So I'd say yes, RAW, though your DM might say otherwise since the ACF isn't proficient with crossbows.
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Re: [PATHFINDER] Ask a simple question, get a silly- I mean, simple answer.
« Reply #123 on: September 06, 2010, 05:42:08 PM »
Q35 Can a Zen Archer monk flurry with a crossbow?
A35 : a monk can flurry with monk weapon only.
so unless the feat grants crossbow as monk weapon, it's still no.

It's not a feat, it's an ACF from the APG.  It states "a zen archer can make a flurry of blows as a full-attack action, but only when using a bow (even though it is a ranged weapon)."  So I'd say yes, RAW, though your DM might say otherwise since the ACF isn't proficient with crossbows.
I suppose I should have asked more clearly the real question was not a matter of can they do it because of the life in the acf but because of the fact that reloading a crossbow is a standard or move action and only 1 bot at best could be fired from a crossbow unless this acf takes over that rule

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Re: [PATHFINDER] Ask a simple question, get a silly- I mean, simple answer.
« Reply #124 on: September 06, 2010, 05:45:25 PM »
Q35 Can a Zen Archer monk flurry with a crossbow?
A35 : a monk can flurry with monk weapon only.
so unless the feat grants crossbow as monk weapon, it's still no.

It's not a feat, it's an ACF from the APG.  It states "a zen archer can make a flurry of blows as a full-attack action, but only when using a bow (even though it is a ranged weapon)."  So I'd say yes, RAW, though your DM might say otherwise since the ACF isn't proficient with crossbows.
I suppose I should have asked more clearly the real question was not a matter of can they do it because of the life in the acf but because of the fact that reloading a crossbow is a standard or move action and only 1 bot at best could be fired from a crossbow unless this acf takes over that rule
Raw: No. Crossbows are ranged weapons, like bows. Crossbows are not bows, however.
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Re: [PATHFINDER] Ask a simple question, get a silly- I mean, simple answer.
« Reply #125 on: September 07, 2010, 07:18:31 AM »
Q36: What does the "Add +1/4 to the eidolon’s evolution pool" part mean of the Favored Class Alternatives listed here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/half-elf mean? Does it mean that at every level, you gain an additional 1/4 of the listed points?

Here's the list of what the eidolons points would be with this:
Normal       Half-Elf
3              3.25
4              4.50
5              5.75
7              8
8              9.25
9             10.50
10           11.75
11            12
13            14.25
14            15.50
15            16.75
16            17
17            18.25
19            19.50
20            20.75
21            22
22            23.25
23            24.50
25            26.75
26            27

Although, now that I wrote this out, it doesn't seem to make sense to me. There are 5 times where you would be gaining 1 over the listed normal points, I must have done it wrong.. 26x.25=6.5 so would that be 6.5 extra points or 5 extra points? Whats going on with my crappy math?

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Re: [PATHFINDER] Ask a simple question, get a silly- I mean, simple answer.
« Reply #126 on: September 07, 2010, 07:32:38 AM »
Q36: What does the "Add +1/4 to the eidolon’s evolution pool" part mean of the Favored Class Alternatives listed here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/half-elf mean? Does it mean that at every level, you gain an additional 1/4 of the listed points?

A36 I believe it just means you gain an extra point in the evolution pool for every four levels that you take this pick.

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Re: [PATHFINDER] Ask a simple question, get a silly- I mean, simple answer.
« Reply #127 on: September 07, 2010, 01:09:09 PM »
Q36: What does the "Add +1/4 to the eidolon’s evolution pool" part mean of the Favored Class Alternatives listed here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/half-elf mean? Does it mean that at every level, you gain an additional 1/4 of the listed points?

A36 I believe it just means you gain an extra point in the evolution pool for every four levels that you take this pick.
I have checked and that is right.
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Re: [PATHFINDER] Ask a simple question, get a silly- I mean, simple answer.
« Reply #128 on: September 07, 2010, 02:44:33 PM »
Q36: What does the "Add +1/4 to the eidolon’s evolution pool" part mean of the Favored Class Alternatives listed here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/half-elf mean? Does it mean that at every level, you gain an additional 1/4 of the listed points?

A36 I believe it just means you gain an extra point in the evolution pool for every four levels that you take this pick.
Okay, then it looks like this instead:
Half-Elf - Add +1/4 to the eidolon’s evolution pool. - Gain 5 total points
1) 1
5) 1
9) 1
13) 1
17) 1

Thanks for the help!

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Re: [PATHFINDER] Ask a simple question, get a silly- I mean, simple answer.
« Reply #129 on: September 07, 2010, 06:14:40 PM »
A36 I believe it just means you gain an extra point in the evolution pool for every four levels that you take this pick.
Okay, then it looks like this instead:
Half-Elf - Add +1/4 to the eidolon’s evolution pool. - Gain 5 total points
1) 1
5) 1
9) 1
13) 1
17) 1

Thanks for the help!

Actually, I think it's an extra point increase at 4, 8, 12, 16, and 20. Page 9 of the APG indicates to round down fractional bonuses.

The same page also gives an example involving human paladin energy resistance which seems to indicate that rather than just adding, these bonuses snowball:twitch I really hope that's an editing mistake.

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Re: [PATHFINDER] Ask a simple question, get a silly- I mean, simple answer.
« Reply #130 on: September 09, 2010, 02:44:32 AM »
Q37: What does the feat Elephant Stomp do?  Since it replaces the overrun that you are performing it just seems to ALLOW you to charge and attack with a natural weapon.  What does it actually do?
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Re: [PATHFINDER] Ask a simple question, get a silly- I mean, simple answer.
« Reply #131 on: September 09, 2010, 03:32:04 AM »
Knocks them down, then attack them.
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Re: [PATHFINDER] Ask a simple question, get a silly- I mean, simple answer.
« Reply #132 on: September 09, 2010, 09:46:55 AM »
Q 38: Does Weapon Finesse allow you to apply your Dex to Combat Maneuvers?  I ask specifically because of this line:
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Re: [PATHFINDER] Ask a simple question, get a silly- I mean, simple answer.
« Reply #133 on: September 09, 2010, 11:16:58 AM »
A38: unless I missed the question : there is a specific feat "agile manoeuvre" that allows to add dex to CMB. so I'd says no to weapon finesse.
btw, no feat grants combat manoeuvres, feats just improve them.
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Re: [PATHFINDER] Ask a simple question, get a silly- I mean, simple answer.
« Reply #134 on: September 09, 2010, 04:40:46 PM »
A39 I'm going to disagree with the above poster. Weapon finesse lets you use your dex instead of str during an attack, a combat maneuver is a form of attack so weapon finesse is applicable. This leaves me straining to think of a situation where you'd want to choose agile maneuvers as a feat instead of weapon finesse, but that's just my lack of imagination.

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Re: [PATHFINDER] Ask a simple question, get a silly- I mean, simple answer.
« Reply #135 on: September 09, 2010, 05:03:28 PM »
if finesse would work it would make agile maneuvers obsolete
so the logical conclusion is that finesse doesnt work with CMB

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Re: [PATHFINDER] Ask a simple question, get a silly- I mean, simple answer.
« Reply #136 on: September 09, 2010, 06:07:51 PM »
Logic != RAW

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Re: [PATHFINDER] Ask a simple question, get a silly- I mean, simple answer.
« Reply #137 on: September 09, 2010, 06:42:12 PM »
if finesse would work it would make agile maneuvers obsolete

Actually, since weapon finesse would only work on combat maneuvers when the weapon used to perform the maneuver is a valid target for weapon finesse, agile maneuvers would still do something weapon finesse wouldn't. 

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« Reply #138 on: September 09, 2010, 07:50:26 PM »
if finesse would work it would make agile maneuvers obsolete

Actually, since weapon finesse would only work on combat maneuvers when the weapon used to perform the maneuver is a valid target for weapon finesse, agile maneuvers would still do something weapon finesse wouldn't. 
during grappling, bullrushhing, overrunning, etc.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
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Re: [PATHFINDER] Ask a simple question, get a silly- I mean, simple answer.
« Reply #139 on: September 09, 2010, 07:54:09 PM »
if finesse would work it would make agile maneuvers obsolete

Actually, since weapon finesse would only work on combat maneuvers when the weapon used to perform the maneuver is a valid target for weapon finesse, agile maneuvers would still do something weapon finesse wouldn't. 

hmm, true

well, im convinced  :D