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Re: What are your favorite uses of the Leadership feat?
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2010, 10:11:47 PM »
I like the notion of my animal companion taking Leadership. Suddenly, my horse is more popular than I am.
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Re: What are your favorite uses of the Leadership feat?
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2010, 11:50:38 PM »
I have always wanted to make a circus ringleader halfling, with tons of followers. the low levels ones are marshals and warlocks, and the cohort is a bard. a cleric is stuffed into part of the leadership chain somewhere.
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Re: What are your favorite uses of the Leadership feat?
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2010, 01:24:09 AM »
As a player, I've never used it.
As a DM, my favorite use is typically banning it from play.

IMO, it's the most broken feat in D&D.
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Re: What are your favorite uses of the Leadership feat?
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2010, 03:17:28 AM »
As a player, I've never used it.
As a DM, my favorite use is typically banning it from play.

IMO, it's the most broken feat in D&D.
Never at any point should anyone have a need to play two characters at the same time.

I agree it is broken as hell, so I like to encourage my players to use it.  makes it more interesting. alot of character concepts don't work very well with the "I head out alone" idea.  it also makes it easier for players to have interesting mounts.
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Re: What are your favorite uses of the Leadership feat?
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2010, 04:18:43 AM »
I don't exactly encourage my players to take it in most games, but I've allowed it before.  One of my PCs right now is in the Red Dragonarmy (Dragonlance setting) and has Draconic Leadership for a juvenile red dragon, which makes him unbelievably happy.  Since the dragon's saved the party from a TPK twice in 2 sessions already, the players have all agreed that it's a good thing he swapped out weapon focus (bastard sword) for it =P

Before that he had a 10-headed hydra, which while not exactly unbalanced, took way too goddamn long to resolve 10 attacks at a crummy attack bonus each round.

I've also strongly encouraged my PCs to take leadership in a game where they are all various Cormyrean nobility (Birthright in Faerun game).  The last 2 sessions I ran were actually "cohort+followers" sessions where the normal PCs stayed at home while their cohorts adventured, weirdly enough.

So yeah - as a DM, I like Leadership as a way to shore up a small party and help with roleplaying.  As a PC, it would be either for a decent mount at higher levels as a martial character, or to shore up a typical gap in the party (crafting, healing, trap-finding, etc).

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Re: What are your favorite uses of the Leadership feat?
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2010, 10:09:13 AM »
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all your spells are suddenly 9th level, and you suddenly win even more than wizards traditionally do.
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Re: What are your favorite uses of the Leadership feat?
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2010, 02:53:55 PM »
Sacrificing them to the might of my Epic Thrallherd Spells, most likely of the Telepathy school.

Or as someone said, forget using it for mechanical power, get lots of little animals to follow you around and be Snow White!
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Re: What are your favorite uses of the Leadership feat?
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2010, 02:55:28 PM »
You people think way too...mechanically.

Why do you take Leadership?

Maids.

Hundreds of them.
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Re: What are your favorite uses of the Leadership feat?
« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2010, 06:31:16 PM »
be a thrallherd have both of my thralls as crusader/warblade focused on white raven and each of them take leadership. then yell charge  :D

In actuality we almost never use it in game because a) in our games most players already play 2 characters, b) none of us want to keep up with the extra paperwork for tracking the followers and their crap, c) we tend to not like moving in a massive caravan in our games so the 200 people hanging around causes a problem.

One of the best ways we have ever used leadership was that another player had to play your cohort. This works because it is fun to do occasionally.
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Re: What are your favorite uses of the Leadership feat?
« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2010, 03:04:07 PM »
You people think way too...mechanically.

Why do you take Leadership?

Maids.

Hundreds of them.
This.

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Re: What are your favorite uses of the Leadership feat?
« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2010, 03:26:46 PM »
be a thrallherd have both of my thralls as crusader/warblade focused on white raven and each of them take leadership. then yell charge  :D

In actuality we almost never use it in game because a) in our games most players already play 2 characters, b) none of us want to keep up with the extra paperwork for tracking the followers and their crap, c) we tend to not like moving in a massive caravan in our games so the 200 people hanging around causes a problem.

One of the best ways we have ever used leadership was that another player had to play your cohort. This works because it is fun to do occasionally.

you forgot to make your thrall's cohorts be thrallherds. and repeat.
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Re: What are your favorite uses of the Leadership feat?
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2010, 03:30:56 PM »
followers make great specialists.

get a forger, a disguiser, ect. 

very damn handy. we all know how easy it is to do a single thing REALLY well when that's all you have to do. also, marshals. lots and lots of marshals. they only need be marshal1, so use whatever leftover levels to increase their charisma. get one for each stat, at the least.
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Re: What are your favorite uses of the Leadership feat?
« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2010, 03:48:15 PM »
followers make great specialists.

get a forger, a disguiser, ect. 

very damn handy. we all know how easy it is to do a single thing REALLY well when that's all you have to do. also, marshals. lots and lots of marshals. they only need be marshal1, so use whatever leftover levels to increase their charisma. get one for each stat, at the least.

you forgot basketweaver under your specialist list.
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Re: What are your favorite uses of the Leadership feat?
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2010, 03:59:49 PM »
followers make great specialists.

get a forger, a disguiser, ect. 

very damn handy. we all know how easy it is to do a single thing REALLY well when that's all you have to do. also, marshals. lots and lots of marshals. they only need be marshal1, so use whatever leftover levels to increase their charisma. get one for each stat, at the least.

you forgot basketweaver under your specialist list.

I said "ect", right? I assumed you would have multiple craft specialists, basketweaving being one of the more obvious ones.
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Re: What are your favorite uses of the Leadership feat?
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2010, 06:44:22 PM »
Ive used Leadership to get my character a wife, great RP, she always nags, he always gives her what she wants, but she's saved the day a few times.
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Re: What are your favorite uses of the Leadership feat?
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2010, 01:10:07 AM »
followers make great specialists.

get a forger, a disguiser, ect. 

very damn handy. we all know how easy it is to do a single thing REALLY well when that's all you have to do. also, marshals. lots and lots of marshals. they only need be marshal1, so use whatever leftover levels to increase their charisma. get one for each stat, at the least.

you forgot basketweaver under your specialist list.

I said "ect", right? I assumed you would have multiple craft specialists, basketweaving being one of the more obvious ones.


What is it with basketweaving? People keep talking about it but the only thing i have ever seen it used for is boguns

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Re: What are your favorite uses of the Leadership feat?
« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2010, 01:23:31 AM »
followers make great specialists.

get a forger, a disguiser, ect. 

very damn handy. we all know how easy it is to do a single thing REALLY well when that's all you have to do. also, marshals. lots and lots of marshals. they only need be marshal1, so use whatever leftover levels to increase their charisma. get one for each stat, at the least.

you forgot basketweaver under your specialist list.

I said "ect", right? I assumed you would have multiple craft specialists, basketweaving being one of the more obvious ones.


What is it with basketweaving? People keep talking about it but the only thing i have ever seen it used for is boguns
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Re: What are your favorite uses of the Leadership feat?
« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2010, 02:55:47 AM »
Find a nice island and recruit hundreds of aquatic dwarves to mine the area around it for you while you lay back with a tequila sunrise on the beach.
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Re: What are your favorite uses of the Leadership feat?
« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2010, 09:39:50 PM »
There was a thread on the old 339 boards that was a challenge to kill gods with 60 levels and leadership was used with the table in dieties and demigods to make your character gain divine ranks by having an obsenely high leadership score.
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