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Making Riddick, Swordsage/BCM/???
« on: January 24, 2010, 10:00:10 PM »
I'm trying to make a character based on Riddick from Chronicles of Riddick.
I'm thinking Swordsage with Diamond Mind, Shadowhand, and Tiger Claw disciplines.  I kinda want to take a level of Lion Totem Barbarian with the whirling frenzy because there was that one fight in Chronicles of Riddick where he totally went to town on those guards.  I think it was when they were attacked by Necromongers on their escape attempt from Crematoria where he cut a swath through them.

What do you guys think? Shadowblade maybe gloom razor
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Re: Making Riddick, Swordsage/BCM/???
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2010, 10:17:55 PM »
http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-3rd-edition-rules/220685-riddick.html

It's not uncommon to make DND-representations of famous characters. I may Google more if this thread gets bigger.

Addendum: Napoleon Bonaparte's a Diplomancer, ha!

Addendum 2: What level is Riddick? From what I saw, he must be equal to or lower than level 3 (well-optimized), level 4 (less-optimized), or beyond if not optimized and just taking levels for specific abilities.
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Re: Making Riddick, Swordsage/BCM/???
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2010, 02:56:34 AM »
DUDE! Been totally aching to play a Riddick charrie!

Well, he's an ex-ranger. So I'd probably use this, lose falling star for either stone dragon or iron heart, as per the acf.

Full bab, ranger skills, good for/ref (gotta find a way to boost will...), favored enemies, plus shadow hand, tiger claw, and one of the aforementioned disciplines. You're set. Oh, plus bonus feats. Woot! Maybe mix in some barbarian, for uncanny dodge, same skills, rage...

Plus some race with darkvision. (I'd rather a human with the Dark Template; thematically fits, as he inherits it from his Furyan race, and is a fast runner/good sneak. I'd probably go Blooded template too, since his cry and boosts work well)

Now, you've got a full BAB martial monster, with the background appropriate to the base charrie and the eyes. You have, my good friend, Richard B. Riddick.
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Re: Making Riddick, Swordsage/BCM/???
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2010, 04:09:52 AM »
hmm, he might not let me use the sublime ranger, is there a humanoid race with darkvision that isn't small?  The dark template I'll ask about but HiPS is very powerful for a low level character.
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Re: Making Riddick, Swordsage/BCM/???
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2010, 04:21:58 AM »
hmm, he might not let me use the sublime ranger, is there a humanoid race with darkvision that isn't small?  The dark template I'll ask about but HiPS is very powerful for a low level character.
Eh, ask if you can cut that and the resistance to cold to make the +1 LA easier to nuke.

I don't believe there's a medium sized darkvision race that doesn't have some La (like drow, which  believe do but I know have +2 la or something), thoughn I found this here:
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Come to think of it though, does hellbred? I suppose the whole redemption thing kinda works with Riddick...
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Re: Making Riddick, Swordsage/BCM/???
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2010, 05:21:58 AM »
I could go half-drow but the loss of a bonus feat hurts, I think I'll try to swing the dark template
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Re: Making Riddick, Swordsage/BCM/???
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2010, 06:05:53 AM »
Notably his dark vision isn't racial, if you watch pitch black you find out it is done through surgery

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Re: Making Riddick, Swordsage/BCM/???
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2010, 09:42:19 AM »
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Re: Making Riddick, Swordsage/BCM/???
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2010, 12:01:48 PM »
Notably his dark vision isn't racial, if you watch pitch black you find out it is done through surgery

no it's not, that's a lie he told Jack.  It's from being a Furyan, you find this out if you play Escape from Butcher Bay.


And Underfolk is exactly what I'm looking for.  The loss of a feat sucks and I'm not too sure how I feel about that.

How would I build it without that human bonus feat?

As far as I know we're not using flaws but that isn't set in stone, gonna need a few diplomacy rolls to get it going but let's assume I won't get it.


lv1TWF
lv3Weapon Finesse
lv6Shadowblade
lv9iTWF
lv12Gloom Razor

I need adaptive style though, should I get Weapon Finesse through multiclassing for a bonus feat?

I could take sleeping tiger variant monk 2 for weapon finesse and improved initiative. Is taking the 2nd level worth it to make my next swordsage level have an IL of3 or instead of monk should I take something else?  I could take the unarmed swordsage variant and I assume I could change the AC to work in no armor and ask the DM if he'd let me stack them, I don't see why it wouldn't work they're untyped AC bonuses from different sources so they should stack.

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Re: Making Riddick, Swordsage/BCM/???
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2010, 03:01:07 PM »
Synads and elan both work. They look human but they are abberfrations so they have darkvision 60 (I think the synad actually has more)

Otherwise you could make a variant dwarf. You should also tack on light blindness or at least light sensetivity. Lesser Duergar or deep dwarf might be options.

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Re: Making Riddick, Swordsage/BCM/???
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2010, 04:10:48 PM »
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Re: Making Riddick, Swordsage/BCM/???
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2010, 08:55:33 PM »
are there any weapons in D&D similar to the Ulaks?
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Re: Making Riddick, Swordsage/BCM/???
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2010, 12:20:52 AM »
You could go with kukris, that is the closest thing I have seen by WOTC. There is a pdf on RPGnow.com called Daggers (3rd party) that is pretty similar to the ulaks (I forget the name).
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Re: Making Riddick, Swordsage/BCM/???
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2010, 12:47:21 AM »
You could go with kukris, that is the closest thing I have seen by WOTC. There is a pdf on RPGnow.com called Daggers (3rd party) that is pretty similar to the ulaks (I forget the name).

Kukris don't work with shadowhand though.  Is the loss of dex to damage worth the gained crit range?
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Re: Making Riddick, Swordsage/BCM/???
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2010, 12:52:04 AM »
Kukris don't work with shadowhand though.  Is the loss of dex to damage worth the gained crit range?

They're favorable enough that they should.  :rollseyes

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Re: Making Riddick, Swordsage/BCM/???
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2010, 12:58:58 AM »
Half-orcs have darkvision, and why not just use daggers?  :eh
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