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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2010, 04:49:18 AM »
If they have a question they do.

And there's actually a third Arthur debate that's been told of, and was even made into a series (Fate/stay night). That Arthur was actually a girl who pretended to be a boy because no nation would accept a female king to lead them.

Now that is interesting. Never heard of that, I'll check up on it. Thanks!
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2010, 04:55:20 AM »
If they have a question they do.

And there's actually a third Arthur debate that's been told of, and was even made into a series (Fate/stay night). That Arthur was actually a girl who pretended to be a boy because no nation would accept a female king to lead them.

Now that is interesting. Never heard of that, I'll check up on it. Thanks!
Well, I should probably revise that. Fate/stay night is more than just a King Arthur story. It's actually the anime (as well as Class of the Titans) that helped me create this idea for a campaign. So while there's King Arthur background, it's not just about Arthur.
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2010, 08:05:58 PM »
Well if you know Fate/Stay Night, you've should at least know Cuchuliann, since hes kinda Lancer(though I suppose that wasn't so obvious in the anime, the upcoming Unlimited Blade Works movie should fix that). His mythic spear is actually a hell lot more painful to get hit by than the anime version, even if it didn't have a 1 mile blast radius. And his famed berserk fury, the Warp Spasm is kinda freaky.
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The Gáe Bulg had to be made ready for use on a stream and cast from the fork of the toes. It entered a man's body with a single wound, like a javelin, then opened into thirty barbs. Only by cutting away the flesh could it be taken from that man's body.

They were fighting in a ford, and Ferdiad had the upper hand; Cúchulainn's charioteer, Láeg, floated the Gáe Bulg down the stream to his master, who cast it into Ferdiad's body, piercing the warrior's armor and "coursing through the highways and byways of his body so that every single joint filled with barbs." Needless to say, Ferdiad died soon after.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]   The first warp-spasm seized Cúchulainn, and made him into a monstrous thing, hideous and shapeless, unheard of. His shanks and his joints, every knuckle and angle and organ from head to foot, shook like a tree in the flood or a reed in the stream. His body made a furious twist inside his skin, so that his feet and shins switched to the rear and his heels and calves switched to the front... On his head the temple-sinews stretched to the nape of his neck, each mighty, immense, measureless knob as big as the head of a month-old child... he sucked one eye so deep into his head that a wild crane couldn't probe it onto his cheek out of the depths of his skull; the other eye fell out along his cheek. His mouth weirdly distorted: his cheek peeled back from his jaws until the gullet appeared, his lungs and his liver flapped in his mouth and throat, his lower jaw struck the upper a lion-killing blow, and fiery flakes large as a ram's fleece reached his mouth from his throat... The hair of his head twisted like the tange of a red thornbush stuck in a gap; if a royal apple tree with all its kingly fruit were shaken above him, scarce an apple would reach the ground but each would be spiked on a bristle of his hair as it stood up on his scalp with rage.[/spoiler]

Though if you had Arthur, the Knights of the Round Table would fit in nicely, Lancelot, Gawain, etc, etc, as well as the other characters, Mordred, Morgana Le Fay. It's one of those legends with a lot of starring casts, and if you had conflicts with timelines(e.g. the 5 century gap between Arthurs) simply make the later one the first's reincarnation.

And one final thought, if you're making use of D&D, you actually need to power most of the heroes up. High level characters are head and shoulders above most of the things that some mythological gods can do, much less heroes.
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2010, 09:22:20 PM »
And one final thought, if you're making use of D&D, you actually need to power most of the heroes up. High level characters are head and shoulders above most of the things that some mythological gods can do, much less heroes.
This. Hercules killed a hydra. Just one. And almost died doing it, if memory serves me. I forget how many heads it had, but Hydra CRs run from a lowly 4 (one head) to a middle-of-the-road 11 (twelve heads). And I'm pretty sure it had less than ten heads when it started out.
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2010, 05:13:24 AM »
Well considering hes doing it effectively solo(with a nonheroic companion), without magic equipment...
The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

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Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #45 on: January 23, 2010, 02:36:53 PM »
Well considering hes doing it effectively solo(with a nonheroic companion), without magic equipment...
VoP Monk? Maybe he was low enough level that it was actually still worth something. :lol
Or maybe he fudged the dice.
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2010, 03:05:21 PM »
VoP Monk? Maybe he was low enough level that it was actually still worth something. :lol
Or maybe he fudged the dice.[/quote]
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2010, 06:16:30 PM »
Other characters to throw in the pot, Daedalus(and possibly Icarus, though being famous for being an idiot...).

Well considering hes doing it effectively solo(with a nonheroic companion), without magic equipment...
VoP Monk? Maybe he was low enough level that it was actually still worth something. :lol
Or maybe he fudged the dice.
He probably had something analogous to VoP, comes with being the son of Zeus. Being able to strangle snakes in the cradle means VoP level raw stats.

Actually, make that every big time hero in history.
The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
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"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

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Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
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