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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2010, 03:19:31 AM »
Circe is a witch, though depending on the source she may be X% god, considering how those old gods went around having sex with everything that moves and some things that don't.

Theres also Qin Shi Huang though hes not so much PC material, given his famed deeds. Not a nice guy. You could also adapt the Eight Immortals, they may technically be deities, but before ascension, were pretty much adventurers, and acting pretty much like a superpowered party post ascension.

Wayland Smith, not all of them have to be combat oriented. Perseus, Beowolf...goddamn thats a lot of heroes, even just tapping popular mythology.
Gilgamesh too. Not sure where he belongs, though... I'm going to tentatively go with 'hero', but only because he was the protagonist. :p
Giant dick crossing the land maybe, but that describes most D&D style adventurers...wait...
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2010, 08:48:35 AM »
Hmm. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with having a smithy on the team if someone wanted to be one.
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2010, 03:09:09 PM »
What about that Satyr guy who was (thought he was) better at music than Apollo and got smote for his trouble? Yeah, I guess it's a stretch. :P

Some guys from norse mythology maybe  but then, aren't most of those gods anyway?
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2010, 05:34:02 PM »
Some guys from norse mythology maybe  but then, aren't most of those gods anyway?
Probably. I'm looking more for heroes and villains. I'm sure the players will try to get a god or two past me.
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2010, 06:05:49 PM »
What about that Satyr guy who was (thought he was) better at music than Apollo and got smote for his trouble? Yeah, I guess it's a stretch. :P
How about Arachne? The original Spider, pissed off Athena by being better than her at weaving.

As for the Norse, they have quite a lot of non-divine heroes, but none I can recall clearly offhand.
Sigurd?
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2010, 06:10:15 PM »
Kind of looking for less supernatural villains, but considering I've been told that a vampire Vlad Tepes and a lich Rasputin would be more "fun" to pit against the PCs, I'll consider it.

Sigurd?
You know, I always thought he was a demi-god, but I guess not. He's got a few different names too.
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2010, 06:54:04 PM »
John Wilkes Booth?
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2010, 06:58:39 PM »
Simo Häyhä? :D Hey, Rasputin died 1916. Simo was active during WW II. Only 30-odd years of difference, there.
We may need more of a definition on what constitutes an "ancient" hero, here.
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2010, 07:54:30 PM »
Simo Häyhä? :D
As long as hes not AGAINST the PCs..getting nailed from out of nowhere by a sniper you can't find...
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2010, 06:17:41 AM »
Got a player who wants to be Braveheart's William Wallace. The only problem is the armour. Is there's an armoured kilt?
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2010, 07:06:50 AM »
Just reflavor it.
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2010, 07:09:08 AM »
Just reflavor it.
As what, from what? I thought there was one though. And it'd probably be torso. I'd allow hide armour anyways.

And another player is wondering if Conan was real. I'm sure he's based off of something, but I can't find any references saying so.
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2010, 03:40:02 AM »
John Wilkes Booth?
Epic.

Sigmund is the hero of the Volsunga Saga, Siegfried (Sigurd) his son was the Dragon Slayer. Both of them were not sired by gods, though Völsung (Sigmund's father) is the great grandson of the All Father. Sigmund's mother was a giantess.

Jason and other Greek heroes are sired by deities, demi-deities, and other mythological beings.

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« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2010, 03:59:01 AM »
I just learned that Hercules is more than possible since he was actually based on an actual Hercules who was considered the strongest man in the country at the time. Also, Spartacus is real.

Too bad Conan and Xena aren't. Had a couple of players consider them.
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2010, 04:14:47 AM »
Got a player who wants to be Braveheart's William Wallace. The only problem is the armour. Is there's an armoured kilt?
Maybe easier than you'd think.

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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2010, 04:17:08 AM »
Got a player who wants to be Braveheart's William Wallace. The only problem is the armour. Is there's an armoured kilt?
Maybe easier than you'd think.
Well I recognize the chainmail across his arms, the sword (longsword or bastard sword?) and heavy shield (wooden with steel over it?) not so much. Or maybe he's got more than just the chainmail.
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2010, 04:18:50 AM »
I know that Hercules is based off of the Greek Hero Herakles. Out of curiosities sake, where did you find that he was real?

Arthur and Merlin are just Romantic heroes from stories during the High/Late Mediaeval Ages.
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2010, 04:22:39 AM »
I know that Hercules is based off of the Greek Hero Herakles. Out of curiosities sake, where did you find that he was real?

Arthur and Merlin are just Romantic heroes from stories during the High/Late Mediaeval Ages.
It was on AskJeeves. I happened upon it when I was looking up Xena, who was just based on the Amazon warriors in general, but actually one person.

Yeah, I can't find much on them either other than the Arthur movie where Merlin was a druid witch doctor, which was said to be the true story of Arthur and his knights.
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2010, 04:36:01 AM »
It was on AskJeeves. I happened upon it when I was looking up Xena, who was just based on the Amazon warriors in general, but actually one person.

Yeah, I can't find much on them either other than the Arthur movie where Merlin was a druid witch doctor, which was said to be the true story of Arthur and his knights.

Well, there were two 'King Arthur's that people debate. One was in the 5thish century, the other the 10th. Neither had round tables. The story and the telling suggests that it was based on a chivalric King of the time (probably not Arthur) and the romanticized idea of courtly life. So many people know about Arthur and believe in him that he might as well be real.

I looked over the article and there is no citing. The hole in his argument, or as he puts it 'scholars argument', is that he wasn't a god. There was (and is) a Cult of Herakles http://books.google.ca/books?id=kFl_DgN73UUC&pg=PA379&dq=cult+of+heracles+book&ei=zQ5ZS9rRHZv2MfH42OwM&client=firefox-a&cd=1#v=onepage&q=cult%20of%20heracles%20book&f=false.

Wait... people still use Ask Jeeves?
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Re: Ancient Heroes and Villains...
« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2010, 04:40:26 AM »
Wait... people still use Ask Jeeves?
If they have a question they do.

And there's actually a third Arthur debate that's been told of, and was even made into a series (Fate/stay night). That Arthur was actually a girl who pretended to be a boy because no nation would accept a female king to lead them.
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