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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #720 on: January 25, 2010, 03:11:51 PM »
A 192: I don't think so. You'd be able to retain flight if you gained it from a feat or class feature though (take a look at my "lists of stuff" under "speed" subsection 'flight').
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #721 on: January 25, 2010, 03:28:06 PM »
Q192: Is there a way for a raptoran/dragonborn/any character with natural wings to keep his wings under a polymorph effect (or to be more exact in bear form from the class Sentinel of Bharrai from BoED)
A dragonborn who gained his wings from the Dragon Wings feat, instead of picking that as his dragonborn "ability" (I forget what they're called) would keep them.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #722 on: January 25, 2010, 04:11:28 PM »
Q 193: How do a group of PCs go about indentifying an artifact?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #723 on: January 25, 2010, 04:12:58 PM »
Q 193

The scientific method: Use it and see what happens. What could possibly go wrong? :D
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #724 on: January 25, 2010, 04:13:05 PM »
Q 193: How do a group of PCs go about indentifying an artifact?
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« Reply #725 on: January 25, 2010, 04:16:53 PM »
The scientific method: Use it and see what happens. What could possibly go wrong? :D
You mean besides it possibly being cursed?

I usually just go with Identify, if at all possible. Unless you have one of those awesome DMs where you put it over the fire ala Lord of the Rings, and it tells you what it is. :lmao

Q 194 Got myself a new DM, and I don't think he's playing by the rules, but no one's questioning his methods. I just need clarification. If a group of PCs encounters a mage that uses fireball at 5d6, and no one makes their save, do you roll those 5d6 once for everyone, or do you roll 5d6 for each person in the area of effect?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #726 on: January 25, 2010, 04:18:32 PM »
The scientific method: Use it and see what happens. What could possibly go wrong? :D
You mean besides it possibly being cursed?

I usually just go with Identify, if at all possible. Unless you have one of those awesome DMs where you put it over the fire ala Lord of the Rings, and it tells you what it is. :lmao

Q 194 Got myself a new DM, and I don't think he's playing by the rules, but no one's questioning his methods. I just need clarification. If a group of PCs encounters a mage that uses fireball at 5d6, and no one makes their save, do you roll those 5d6 once for everyone, or do you roll 5d6 for each person in the area of effect?
I've always rolled it once and applied it equally to everyone, but I'm a lazy sod.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #727 on: January 25, 2010, 04:19:28 PM »
I've always rolled it once and applied it equally to everyone, but I'm a lazy sod.
That's what I do too, and is what most DMs I know do. I'm just wondering if you're supposed to do it more than 10 times for 10 people. That seems stupid.
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« Reply #728 on: January 25, 2010, 04:20:36 PM »
Maybe he likes rolling lots of dice? I mean, it makes sense to roll separately, but I can just never bring myself to roll that much, since it always slows down combat so much.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #729 on: January 25, 2010, 04:21:17 PM »
I've always rolled it once and applied it equally to everyone, but I'm a lazy sod.
That's what I do too, and is what most DMs I know do. I'm just wondering if you're supposed to do it more than 10 times for 10 people. That seems stupid.

Does it really matter? It averages out in the end anyways. (unless he's rolling then cherry picking the damage values and targets)

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« Reply #730 on: January 25, 2010, 04:22:03 PM »
It can matter a lot, especially when it's 10 people. It slows down combat a LOT then.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #731 on: January 25, 2010, 04:22:29 PM »
The scientific method: Use it and see what happens. What could possibly go wrong? :D
You mean besides it possibly being cursed?

I usually just go with Identify, if at all possible. Unless you have one of those awesome DMs where you put it over the fire ala Lord of the Rings, and it tells you what it is. :lmao
Identify doesn't work on artifacts.

Q 194 Got myself a new DM, and I don't think he's playing by the rules, but no one's questioning his methods. I just need clarification. If a group of PCs encounters a mage that uses fireball at 5d6, and no one makes their save, do you roll those 5d6 once for everyone, or do you roll 5d6 for each person in the area of effect?
Congratulations! Is he better than your other two? :D

I've always rolled it once and applied it equally to everyone, but I'm a lazy sod.
Same here.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #732 on: January 25, 2010, 04:23:41 PM »
It can matter a lot, especially when it's 10 people. It slows down combat a LOT then.

But from a balance/following the rules perspective, it changes nothing.

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« Reply #733 on: January 25, 2010, 04:24:55 PM »
It can matter a lot, especially when it's 10 people. It slows down combat a LOT then.

But from a balance/following the rules perspective, it changes nothing.
Exactly. But it slows everything down soooooooooooooo much. And I'm lazy.

Granted, if you make the players roll the damage they take...
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #734 on: January 25, 2010, 04:28:02 PM »
It can matter a lot, especially when it's 10 people. It slows down combat a LOT then.

But from a balance/following the rules perspective, it changes nothing.
Actually, it does.

It's much more likely to roll near max damage against the whole party if you roll only once.  Which risks a TPK, and is therefore Bad.

On the other hand, it could roll near min damage against the whole party.  Which risks being completely ineffective, and is also Bad.



When DMing, I explain that I'll be rolling damage dice for spells against the players individually (using my computer) to avoid stupid TPKs from happening, and the players get to choose whether or not they'll just roll once or multiple times.

So far they've chosen just to roll once.
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« Reply #735 on: January 25, 2010, 04:28:41 PM »
Maybe he likes rolling lots of dice? I mean, it makes sense to roll separately, but I can just never bring myself to roll that much, since it always slows down combat so much.
Really? I don't see the sense in rolling that many times. What's the RAW rule?

Does it really matter? It averages out in the end anyways. (unless he's rolling then cherry picking the damage values and targets)
To me it does when his guys get blinded for 1 or 2 rounds, and all the PCs are blinded for 4-6 rounds (he rolled but won't tell us how many rounds we're out because "you don't know"). So when one guy took 1 damage because he made his save, and I took 9 damage when I was at the end of the radius, and his guys who were caught in the blast took minimal damage, I felt kind of cheated. Especially when three of us ended up going down, and one PC died, and his guys started to run away only because the fourth character kept upping his temp HP. If it hadn't been for the swordsage's temp HP, last night would have been a TPK. The final hp in the party was -5, -4, -9, -21 (crit arrow), 12 (6 temp). We were a 4th lvl party facing off against 15 genasi and two elementals (water, earth).

Identify doesn't work on artifacts.

Congratulations? Is he better than your other two? :D
Ah. I guess I've gotten so used to my one DM who allows it to go over fires to be read, and identify works on absolutely everything, that I've forgotten RAW. Gotta love when house rules do that to you. :P

The "new" DM is the second one. The one I ended up playing as a cleric.
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« Reply #736 on: January 25, 2010, 04:32:00 PM »
Maybe he likes rolling lots of dice? I mean, it makes sense to roll separately, but I can just never bring myself to roll that much, since it always slows down combat so much.
Really? I don't see the sense in rolling that many times. What's the RAW rule?

Does it really matter? It averages out in the end anyways. (unless he's rolling then cherry picking the damage values and targets)
To me it does when his guys get blinded for 1 or 2 rounds, and all the PCs are blinded for 4-6 rounds (he rolled but won't tell us how many rounds we're out because "you don't know"). So when one guy took 1 damage because he made his save, and I took 9 damage when I was at the end of the radius, and his guys who were caught in the blast took minimal damage, I felt kind of cheated. Especially when three of us ended up going down, and one PC died, and his guys started to run away only because the fourth character kept upping his temp HP. If it hadn't been for the swordsage's temp HP, last night would have been a TPK. The final hp in the party was -5, -4, -9, -21 (crit arrow), 12.

Identify doesn't work on artifacts.

Congratulations? Is he better than your other two? :D
Ah. I guess I've gotten so used to my one DM who allows it to go over fires to be read, and identify works on absolutely everything, that I've forgotten RAW. Gotta love when house rules do that to you. :P

The "new" DM is the second one. The one I ended up playing as a cleric.
Ah, yeah, I can see what you mean there. When it comes to status effects and such, I always roll individually per player, because I've seen the "I rolled near max for the single roll for the party" tpk or near tpk too many times to do anything else. Damage I roll once and apply to all because I'm lazy.

And some people just like to see large numbers of dice being rolled. It's calming and pleasing to them somehow.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #737 on: January 25, 2010, 10:35:46 PM »
I think think Half-Dragon alt form works for (steel) dragons.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #738 on: January 26, 2010, 12:51:17 AM »
Q 195
Can the turning/rebuking attempts from the elemental domains be used to power DMM?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #739 on: January 26, 2010, 12:52:47 AM »
Q 195
Can the turning/rebuking attempts from the elemental domains be used to power DMM?

Nope. Only things that explicitly say they can, can. (Turn Dragon ACF, Channel Essentia ACF...)