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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #340 on: January 12, 2010, 10:14:02 PM »
Q85 Does anyone know an easy-to-qualify-for PrC that advances arcane casting at level 1 and gets Bluff (and preferably other diplomatic skills) as a class skill?  This is for a Warmage, using the Pathfinder skill system, and a houserule basing my casting off of intelligence, meaning skill requirements are much easier.
A 85: Mindbender is easy if you have charm person, and I believe has all the diplomatic skills plus telepathy.
Mindbender occurred to me, but I'd rather go good-aligned, and Charm Person isn't easy to get on a Warmage without spending a feat on Arcane Disciple or something.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #341 on: January 13, 2010, 12:52:49 AM »
q93:Any non-dragon things a Horizon Tripper can swap combat style for that are of use?
q94:Any Ranger ACFs that drop a class feature from 4th level or above and give any form of bonus at level 1-3?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #342 on: January 13, 2010, 01:23:07 AM »

Q 92 Is there a device that can be used by a class that can't use magic device, that'll summon skeletons? It's about the only thing my character can afford that'll protect his wife from a possible mind flayer invasion. (I read it online that skeletons are a good way of taking them on.) The DM's being vague, but saying something like harbouring a female mind flayer from her overprotective father could "bite you in the ass", who's also a potential love interest for the red dragon who's considering that route next campaign, never means anything good. Chances are it'll happen while we're away in the Abyss trying to rescue a friend, and I'd rather not have my character come home to a burned down village.
The Nightcaller from LM seems to be perfect.  Pass it around the party, and everyone gets some zombies.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #343 on: January 13, 2010, 01:27:29 AM »
Q 95 Anyone know where I can find the write-up of the PrC Fist of the God? Or some variation to the name. It's what my DM's suggesting I take since I'm looking for a PrC. I'd like to at least look at it.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #344 on: January 13, 2010, 01:41:38 AM »
You might be better off getting one of the Giant Vermin amulets.  They're also immune to Mind-affecting stuff (being mindless).  They're vulnerable to some of the other Mind Flayer attacks, but they're loyal to you and the items are much cheaper.
Cool. Where can I find such a thing?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #345 on: January 13, 2010, 05:18:09 AM »
Q 95 Anyone know where I can find the write-up of the PrC Fist of the God? Or some variation to the name. It's what my DM's suggesting I take since I'm looking for a PrC. I'd like to at least look at it.
If you mean Fist of Raziel, which is the only one with a name close to that I know of, it's in the Book of Exalted Deeds.

You might be better off getting one of the Giant Vermin amulets.  They're also immune to Mind-affecting stuff (being mindless).  They're vulnerable to some of the other Mind Flayer attacks, but they're loyal to you and the items are much cheaper.
Cool. Where can I find such a thing?
Magic Item Compendium, page 68.

The Nightcaller TML mentioned is a whistle that was first printed in, iirc, Sunless Citadel. It was reprinted in something 3.5, but I cannot recall what it was (Libris Mortis? PHB2? Something weird and "obscure" like that).
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They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

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Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #346 on: January 13, 2010, 05:50:19 AM »
Q85 Does anyone know an easy-to-qualify-for PrC that advances arcane casting at level 1 and gets Bluff (and preferably other diplomatic skills) as a class skill?  This is for a Warmage, using the Pathfinder skill system, and a houserule basing my casting off of intelligence, meaning skill requirements are much easier.
A 85: Mindbender is easy if you have charm person, and I believe has all the diplomatic skills plus telepathy.
Mindbender occurred to me, but I'd rather go good-aligned, and Charm Person isn't easy to get on a Warmage without spending a feat on Arcane Disciple or something.

You might also look at the bardic PrC's, like Lyric Thaumaturge, Loredelver, etc.  Master of Yuirwood also has good skills, including the diplomatic ones.

Q 90? : Kell is failing his Spot checks miserably because he keeps reformatting Alertness into something more bad ass in combat, and cannot find the cost of 5th level schema.  What is it?  Two to use each day with draconic polymorph on his swiftblade for prebuffing would make him a very happy lesser fey'ri unseelie fey!  Thanks :)

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #347 on: January 13, 2010, 09:55:12 AM »
Alright. I'm going back to bed today. Apparently I put my wrong brain in this morning.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #348 on: January 13, 2010, 10:18:33 AM »
Q 95 Anyone know where I can find the write-up of the PrC Fist of the God? Or some variation to the name. It's what my DM's suggesting I take since I'm looking for a PrC. I'd like to at least look at it.
If you mean Fist of Raziel, which is the only one with a name close to that I know of, it's in the Book of Exalted Deeds.

You might be better off getting one of the Giant Vermin amulets.  They're also immune to Mind-affecting stuff (being mindless).  They're vulnerable to some of the other Mind Flayer attacks, but they're loyal to you and the items are much cheaper.
Cool. Where can I find such a thing?
Magic Item Compendium, page 68.

The Nightcaller TML mentioned is a whistle that was first printed in, iirc, Sunless Citadel. It was reprinted in something 3.5, but I cannot recall what it was (Libris Mortis? PHB2? Something weird and "obscure" like that).
Night Caller is in Libris Mortis, p. 79

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #349 on: January 13, 2010, 11:12:24 AM »
If you mean Fist of Raziel, which is the only one with a name close to that I know of, it's in the Book of Exalted Deeds.
No, I'm afraid that's not it. I've looked everywhere, and I just can't seem to find the thing. DM hasn't responded yet as to where he found it.

That amulet's pretty cheap. Way cheaper than the whistle, and you can use it more often.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #350 on: January 13, 2010, 11:14:52 AM »
If you mean Fist of Raziel, which is the only one with a name close to that I know of, it's in the Book of Exalted Deeds.
No, I'm afraid that's not it. I've looked everywhere, and I just can't seem to find the thing. DM hasn't responded yet as to where he found it.

That amulet's pretty cheap. Way cheaper than the whistle, and you can use it more often.
It was also errata'd, but given your DMs... I might not tell them, if you can get away with it. ;)
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #351 on: January 13, 2010, 11:19:17 AM »
If you mean Fist of Raziel, which is the only one with a name close to that I know of, it's in the Book of Exalted Deeds.
No, I'm afraid that's not it. I've looked everywhere, and I just can't seem to find the thing. DM hasn't responded yet as to where he found it.

That amulet's pretty cheap. Way cheaper than the whistle, and you can use it more often.

Were you wanting a monk type PrC, as in the "fist" part?  Sacred Fist is 10/10 casting by text and Full BAB, from Complete Divine.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #352 on: January 13, 2010, 11:21:48 AM »
It was also errata'd, but given your DMs... I might not tell them, if you can get away with it. ;)
The only errata I found on it is that the Huge scorpion should be Large. Once he read 10th caster, it would have been changed by him anyways. And that's the one I was thinking of getting too.

@ KellKheraptis - No, the PrC was something the DM suggested, and I'm guessing found online somewhere, or is a 3.0 class (he actually offered a few 3.0 classes from Masters of the Wild), or something. Just wanting to have a look at it. All I know about it is that I qualify, and that you basically choose a deity as your favored enemy so you get a bonus against all of their minions.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #353 on: January 13, 2010, 11:36:07 AM »
It was also errata'd, but given your DMs... I might not tell them, if you can get away with it. ;)
The only errata I found on it is that the Huge scorpion should be Large. Once he read 10th caster, it would have been changed by him anyways. And that's the one I was thinking of getting too.

@ KellKheraptis - No, the PrC was something the DM suggested, and I'm guessing found online somewhere, or is a 3.0 class (he actually offered a few 3.0 classes from Masters of the Wild), or something. Just wanting to have a look at it. All I know about it is that I qualify, and that you basically choose a deity as your favored enemy so you get a bonus against all of their minions.
I'm betting it's third-party or homebrew, since I don't recall anything like that from 3.0 or 3.5 with that name.
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They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #354 on: January 13, 2010, 12:22:02 PM »
I'm betting it's third-party or homebrew, since I don't recall anything like that from 3.0 or 3.5 with that name.
He doesn't remember where he found it either, just that he's got a printed copy of it so I'll look at it at the next game. From the sounds of it, I'm not really sure if I want to take it or not. Not a whole lot of benefits other than I become another ranger, which I already am.

Q 96 Besides changing the skills for 3.5 (wilderness lore to knowledge nature and intuit direct to survival), how balanced is the 3.0 Masters of the Wild Deepwood Sniper to other 3.5 prestige classes? I've seen people do remakes, and even an updated version on D&D Wiki under homebrew, but the DM wants me to take it as written. I just want to know how bad an idea that is, or if it's something that wouldn't do me any harm.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #355 on: January 13, 2010, 12:24:43 PM »
I'm betting it's third-party or homebrew, since I don't recall anything like that from 3.0 or 3.5 with that name.
He doesn't remember where he found it either, just that he's got a printed copy of it so I'll look at it at the next game. From the sounds of it, I'm not really sure if I want to take it or not. Not a whole lot of benefits other than I become another ranger, which I already am.

Q 96 Besides changing the skills for 3.5 (wilderness lore to knowledge nature and intuit direct to survival), how balanced is the 3.0 Masters of the Wild Deepwood Sniper to other 3.5 prestige classes? I've seen people do remakes, and even an updated version on D&D Wiki under homebrew, but the DM wants me to take it as written. I just want to know how bad an idea that is, or if it's something that wouldn't do me any harm.
I believe KSBSnowowl has a couple builds in his archer compendium that use DWS as written, iirc. It's not half bad, if you build to it's strengths.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
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Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #356 on: January 13, 2010, 01:08:50 PM »
I'm betting it's third-party or homebrew, since I don't recall anything like that from 3.0 or 3.5 with that name.
He doesn't remember where he found it either, just that he's got a printed copy of it so I'll look at it at the next game. From the sounds of it, I'm not really sure if I want to take it or not. Not a whole lot of benefits other than I become another ranger, which I already am.

Q 96 Besides changing the skills for 3.5 (wilderness lore to knowledge nature and intuit direct to survival), how balanced is the 3.0 Masters of the Wild Deepwood Sniper to other 3.5 prestige classes? I've seen people do remakes, and even an updated version on D&D Wiki under homebrew, but the DM wants me to take it as written. I just want to know how bad an idea that is, or if it's something that wouldn't do me any harm.
I believe KSBSnowowl has a couple builds in his archer compendium that use DWS as written, iirc. It's not half bad, if you build to it's strengths.

Deepwood Sniper is actually one of my favorite dips on a Swift Hunter, as they can apply precision damage to uncrittable critters.  And they hurt a LOT when they do (and we won't go there if Quintessential Elf is allowed...since that's a HUGE much needed boost to damage).
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #357 on: January 13, 2010, 01:14:42 PM »
Deepwood Sniper is actually one of my favorite dips on a Swift Hunter, as they can apply precision damage to uncrittable critters.  And they hurt a LOT when they do (and we won't go there if Quintessential Elf is allowed...since that's a HUGE much needed boost to damage).
You mean, as written? I like the first two levels, but after that I just don't see the point. Especially Take Aim. That's crap. A full round for +2? Boo!

And I've messaged KSBSnowowl on where I can find his build.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #358 on: January 13, 2010, 01:56:34 PM »
A 97: I ready about a prestige class (3rd party) that was called the Logicer or something similiar.  Where a character would basically disbelieve anything that wasn't naturally occuring and he could damage it depending on saving throws and what not.  Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Any chance you could direct me to a book or even company?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: The Revenge of the Grue
« Reply #359 on: January 13, 2010, 02:05:43 PM »
Deepwood Sniper is actually one of my favorite dips on a Swift Hunter, as they can apply precision damage to uncrittable critters.  And they hurt a LOT when they do (and we won't go there if Quintessential Elf is allowed...since that's a HUGE much needed boost to damage).
You mean, as written? I like the first two levels, but after that I just don't see the point. Especially Take Aim. That's crap. A full round for +2? Boo!

And I've messaged KSBSnowowl on where I can find his build.

Hence, dip (2 levels) :D
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