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Spontaneous Wizard Casting
« on: December 30, 2009, 09:45:00 AM »
Hi guys,

I'd like to start a thread detailing all the ways a Wizard can get spontaneous casting of their spells. If someone's already done something similar, can you please direct me? Otherwise, if people could add to this thread, it'd be greatly appreciated. If it's for a prestige class, or a substitution level, I'd also appreciate the level at which it becomes available. So far I have:

PRESTIGE CLASSES

Shadowcraft Mage 3 (All Sor/Wiz Evocation, Conjuration(Creation) and Conjuration(Summoning) spells)RoS
Combat Medic 5 (Spontaneous Heal, like a Cleric is able to with the Cure X Wounds spells)HoB
Dweomerkeeper 1,3,5,7,9 (Spontaneously convert prepared spells into a selected spell, chosen at each odd numbered level)CD WE

SUBSTITUTION LEVELS

Wizard 5 (Divination spells known)CC

FEATS

Alacritous Cogitation (Single spell may be cast spontaneously, as a full round action)CM
Uncanny Forethought (Int modifier spells may be cast spontaneously, as a standard action for mastered spells, or a full round action for all others)EoE
Signature Spell (Convert any prepared spell to one you have mastered - good for Shadowcraft Mages)PGtF
Proteus (Spontaneously cast any Illusion(Glamer) spell you know, like a Cleric casts Cure X Wounds, or cast a prepared glamer as an immediate action by sacrificing another spell of the same level)EoE

TRICKS

Alternative Source SpellDr325 + Spontaneous SummonerCD + Arcane Disciple(Animal)CD (Spontaneously cast Summon Nature's Ally, as per Druid)
Alternative Source SpellDr325 + Spontaneous SummonerCD + Arcane Disciple(Healing)CD (Spontaneously cast Cure X Wounds, as per Cleric)



EDIT 1: Added in Signature Spell
EDIT 2: Added in a tricks section
EDIT 3: Added in Dweomerkeeper, as suggested by Rebel7284
EDIT 4: Corrected Shadowcraft Mage qualifying level, as per PhaedrusXY's suggestion
EDIT 5: Added in Proteus, as suggested by Rebel7284
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Re: Spontaneous Wizard Casting
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2009, 10:19:44 AM »
Dweomerkeeper
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Re: Spontaneous Wizard Casting
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2009, 10:46:34 AM »
Cheers Rebel, forgot about Dweomerkeeper

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Re: Spontaneous Wizard Casting
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2009, 11:11:44 AM »
Also, Proteus
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Re: Spontaneous Wizard Casting
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2009, 11:14:31 AM »
Shadowcraft Mage doesn't gain that till 3rd level.
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Re: Spontaneous Wizard Casting
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2009, 11:26:59 AM »
D'oh, thanks Phaedrus, updating now

Also, cheers again, Rebel, adding in Proteus
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Re: Spontaneous Wizard Casting
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2009, 11:58:11 AM »
I acctualy got 2 feats to suggest... The first is Ravenloft spesific and and the other is in some sword and sorccery cheese so both are prone to the bann hammer but I subject them here to your judgement.
The First feet is called Life-Force sacrifice and it can be aquired by specialist Necromancers, sorccerers with at least one necromancy spell per level and clerics with acces to Death Repose or Destruction Domains. It confers the ability to spontaneously cast any spell you could prepare in place of the one you did prepare as long as you pay the spell's level in hp damage (not permanent)
The second is Spiritual invocation and it allows a caster that prepare's spells to prepare a spell as a "spirit" spell wich he can later burn to cast a spell of one or more level's lower that he could have prepared
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Re: Spontaneous Wizard Casting
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2009, 12:20:25 PM »
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Re: Spontaneous Wizard Casting
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2009, 08:52:51 PM »
Metaphysical Spellshaper - PrC, 1st level ability lets you cast any spell modified by metamagic spontaneously.  Take all three levels on a GOD wizard, then go Incantatrix/Halruuan Elder.  Profit!
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Re: Spontaneous Wizard Casting
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2009, 11:48:14 PM »
A single level dip into bard, then sublime chord (advancing wizard levels). Voila.

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Re: Spontaneous Wizard Casting
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2010, 12:04:21 AM »
A single level dip into bard, then sublime chord (advancing wizard levels). Voila.

How can Sublime Chord advance Wizard levels, since SC has its own casting progression?

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Re: Spontaneous Wizard Casting
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2010, 12:25:42 AM »
I'm pretty sure Spontaneous Divination says any divination spell. Not just a known divination spell, or even a sor/wiz divination spell for that matter.

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Re: Spontaneous Wizard Casting
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2010, 12:32:29 AM »
Items:The Rainment of the Four set from MIC lets you swap prepared spells for teleport/magic missle/fire ball/Freedom of movement (even if they aren't on your class list! As we are talking about Wizards here, that equals you banned the school). Fireball for some reason has a fixed DC (unlike the rest) though.

I'm pretty sure Spontaneous Divination says any divination spell. Not just a known divination spell, or even a sor/wiz divination spell for that matter.

And if you don't want a DMG in your head you'll restrict it to spells you know.
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Re: Spontaneous Wizard Casting
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2010, 12:51:58 AM »
Remind me again why wotc printed and continued to support the sorc class?  :eh

Anyways, magelord from lost empires of faerun (also available as a free wotc excerpt) lets you cast your mastered (aka spell mastery) spells spontaneously (and to add insult to injury, eventually gets to metamagick them without increasing the casting time). Only drawback is that you need evasion, which typically means 2 lost lvs (taking rogue) unless you have some way of bypassing this (ring of evasion?).
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Re: Spontaneous Wizard Casting
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2010, 01:06:55 AM »
Damn, IE ate my reply.  2 levels of Spelldancer gives evasion and spelldance, which is arguably better at persisting than Incantatrix, since it doesn't have a limit on times/day if you're immune to fatigue (and anyone playing rocket tag has this on their footwear).
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Re: Spontaneous Wizard Casting
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2010, 01:38:52 AM »
Items:The Rainment of the Four set from MIC lets you swap prepared spells for teleport/magic missle/fire ball/Freedom of movement (even if they aren't on your class list! As we are talking about Wizards here, that equals you banned the school). Fireball for some reason has a fixed DC (unlike the rest) though.

If you banned it you can't cast the spells even if the item gave you the ability to.

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Re: Spontaneous Wizard Casting
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2010, 05:22:46 AM »
Looks like WotC ate my thread on this. Damn pregrades f'ing things up.

can't find it anything on it other than the example build, but like any thing else the notepad I typed it up in is on CD. I'll look for it later when the ground is level.

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Chaotic Neutral Changling (has at least 13 wisdom)
1: Abyssal Specialist Wizard 1 - 2 flaws, Cloak Of The Obyrith, Chaotic Spell Recall, Focused Specialist (DR 2/Law, CSR 2)
2: Abyssal Specialist Wizard 2
3: Abyssal Specialist Wizard 3 - Uncanny Forethought
4: Abyssal Specialist Wizard 4
5: Abyssal Specialist Wizard 5 - Cooperative Spell.
6: Abyssal Specialist Wizard 6 - Demonic Skin. (DR 3/Law, CSR 2, NA +2)
7: Abyssal Specialist Wizard 7
8: Abyssal Specialist Wizard 8
9: Abyssal Specialist Wizard 9 - Precognitive Visions. (DR 4/Law, CSR 3, NA +3)
10: Planar Abyssal Specialist Wizard 10 - Planar Spell Casting(chaos)
11: Mage of the Arcane Order 1
12: Mage of the Arcane Order 2 - Keeper Of Forbidden Lore, any metamagic feat. (DR 5/Law, CSR 3, NA +3)
13: Mage of the Arcane Order 3
14: Mage of the Arcane Order 4
15: Mage of the Arcane Order 5 - Empower Spell, Enlarge Spell, Extend Spell, Maximize Spell, or Widen Spell (your choice).
16: Mage of the Arcane Order 6
17: Mage of the Arcane Order 7
18: Recaster 1 - Eyes of the Abyss (DR 6/Law, CSR 4, NA +4)
19: Recaster 2 (use the recaster's expanded knowledge to learn greater arcane fusion)
20: Recaster 3

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7-7/7/7/7/7/7/7/6/6+CSR spells per day with no banned spells. Yes, you have more than the sorcerer
DR 6/Law.
A base of +4 Natural Armor.
19/20 wizard casting.
Free Eschew Materials effect.
3/day Silent Spell or Still Spell at no cost or preparation.
3/day metamagic (see 15th level list above) at no cost or preparation.
3/day quicken at no cost or preparation.
You can cast Greater Arcane Fusion to cast any 7th & 4th level spell at once from any spellbook you own.
Spellpool 3/day which is spellstorage, only you pay within 24 hours after drawing a spell.
4/day Chaotic Spell Recall which is like an extra 4 spell slots of your highest spell known that you can spontaneously cast from with a swift action.
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Re: Spontaneous Wizard Casting
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2010, 10:10:48 AM »
I'm pretty sure Spontaneous Divination says any divination spell. Not just a known divination spell, or even a sor/wiz divination spell for that matter.
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Re: Spontaneous Wizard Casting
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2010, 10:33:03 AM »
Thanks for all the responses guys, am updating the list now. For now, I'm restricting it to Wizards material (So, no BoEF, Ravenloft, Pathfinder stuff, etc), if only because most DMs are ok with Wizards published stuff, but may be iffy about third party material.

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Re: Spontaneous Wizard Casting
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2010, 12:43:32 PM »
A single level dip into bard, then sublime chord (advancing wizard levels). Voila.

How can Sublime Chord advance Wizard levels, since SC has its own casting progression?
Complete Arcane, page 61:

"A Sublime Chord's caster level is determined for both her sublime chord spells and the spells she gains from other arcane spellcasting classes is determined by adding her sublime chord level to her level in another arcane spellcasting class. If she had more than one arcane spellcasting class before becoming a sublime chord, she must choose to which class to add her sublime chord levels for the purpose of determining her sublime chord caster level."

Also, there's a feat that allows you to change your spellcasting stat. Change your Cha to Int, so...
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