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Re: Spells that deserve more attention!
« Reply #220 on: February 03, 2010, 08:43:14 AM »
Ah, didn't remember the wording. Thanks.
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Re: Spells that deserve more attention!
« Reply #221 on: February 03, 2010, 07:07:23 PM »
Strength Of the True Form (Sorc only, 1) Dragons of Eberron
Immediate action, duration 1 round, V only and Silent Spell is free to add (if you have the feat)
If you change form due to polymorph, alternate form or similar affect, you have cherry pick the best Natural Armor, DR reduction and physical ability scores from the base form and the polymoph form.

I don't even need to list the ways that this is sweet.

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« Reply #222 on: February 03, 2010, 07:11:50 PM »
Strength Of the True Form (Sorc only, 1) Dragons of Eberron
Immediate action, duration 1 round, V only and Silent Spell is free to add (if you have the feat)
If you change form due to polymorph, alternate form or similar affect, you have cherry pick the best Natural Armor, DR reduction and physical ability scores from the base form and the polymoph form.

I don't even need to list the ways that this is sweet.
Duration 1 round though? I'm guessing it is persistable...
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Re: Spells that deserve more attention!
« Reply #223 on: February 03, 2010, 07:22:30 PM »
Yes it is persistable. And at only a 1st level spell you don't even need any metamagic cheese.

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« Reply #224 on: February 06, 2010, 10:17:00 AM »
Instant refuge seems like a freaking good spell to me, despite high level and xp cost.

It's a permanent until discharged spell that allows you to state 6 conditions in which you are teleported away from the vicinity, to a specific spot.

I think I don't have to explain why this is good?  Let's just say if kenedy had cast that he might still be among us.

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Re: Spells that deserve more attention!
« Reply #225 on: February 06, 2010, 10:55:44 AM »
Strength Of the True Form (Sorc only, 1) Dragons of Eberron
Immediate action, duration 1 round, V only and Silent Spell is free to add (if you have the feat)
If you change form due to polymorph, alternate form or similar affect, you have cherry pick the best Natural Armor, DR reduction and physical ability scores from the base form and the polymoph form.

I don't even need to list the ways that this is sweet.
Duration 1 round though? I'm guessing it is persistable...

Problem is, for the normal player, this is kinda meh. I guess if you put on multiple layers with several layers of polymorphs, yeah, kinda imba, though. Merits further study.

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Re: Spells that deserve more attention!
« Reply #226 on: February 06, 2010, 11:43:11 AM »
Strength Of the True Form (Sorc only, 1) Dragons of Eberron
Immediate action, duration 1 round, V only and Silent Spell is free to add (if you have the feat)
If you change form due to polymorph, alternate form or similar affect, you have cherry pick the best Natural Armor, DR reduction and physical ability scores from the base form and the polymoph form.

I don't even need to list the ways that this is sweet.
Duration 1 round though? I'm guessing it is persistable...

Problem is, for the normal player, this is kinda meh. I guess if you put on multiple layers with several layers of polymorphs, yeah, kinda imba, though. Merits further study.

I'm thinking about it in terms of utility. you can have the strength of the True Dragon while looking like a normal halfling.

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« Reply #227 on: February 06, 2010, 12:46:16 PM »
Strength Of the True Form (Sorc only, 1) Dragons of Eberron
Immediate action, duration 1 round, V only and Silent Spell is free to add (if you have the feat)
If you change form due to polymorph, alternate form or similar affect, you have cherry pick the best Natural Armor, DR reduction and physical ability scores from the base form and the polymoph form.

I don't even need to list the ways that this is sweet.
Duration 1 round though? I'm guessing it is persistable...

Problem is, for the normal player, this is kinda meh. I guess if you put on multiple layers with several layers of polymorphs, yeah, kinda imba, though. Merits further study.

I'm thinking about it in terms of utility. you can have the strength of the True Dragon while looking like a normal halfling.
With persist it is crazy good, especially for a real dragon. It is refreshing to see something that at least marginally works best for the thing the author's meant for it to. :P (Of course, you could do crazy things with layered polymorph/mindswitch effects, too...)
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Re: Spells that deserve more attention!
« Reply #228 on: February 07, 2010, 04:30:08 PM »
Instant refuge seems like a freaking good spell to me, despite high level and xp cost.

It's a permanent until discharged spell that allows you to state 6 conditions in which you are teleported away from the vicinity, to a specific spot.

I think I don't have to explain why this is good?  Let's just say if kenedy had cast that he might still be among us.

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« Reply #229 on: February 07, 2010, 04:35:44 PM »
Suffer the Flesh from Magic of Eberron, as Phaenix recently noted in the Simple Question thread, is pretty nice if you can get around the ability damage. Being immune won't work, but Naberius will.
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Re: Spells that deserve more attention!
« Reply #230 on: February 07, 2010, 05:12:04 PM »
knight's move, spc. cleric 3/pala 2, swift action. move 5 feet/two caster levels. RKV, anyone?

edit: SpC is a true stockpile of these. last breath, druid 4 spell. ressurection without level cost, standard action, only has 500 gp material comp. must be cast within one round of death though, but that wont(usually) be a problem(your warblade cohort will just WRT you)
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« Reply #231 on: February 07, 2010, 05:20:03 PM »
knight's move, spc. cleric 3/pala 2, swift action. move 5 feet/two caster levels. RKV, anyone?

edit: SpC is a true stockpile of these. last breath, druid 4 spell. ressurection without level cost, standard action, only has 500 gp material comp. must be cast within one round of death though, but that wont(usually) be a problem(your warblade cohort will just WRT you)
Revenance can delay how long you have to cast that Last Breath/Revivify, also. It is another 4th level spell in the SC (not sure if it is on the druid list, as I've used it as a cleric only). Revivify is basically the cleric version of Last Breath, but it is 5th level.
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Re: Spells that deserve more attention!
« Reply #232 on: February 09, 2010, 05:29:07 PM »
knight's move, spc. cleric 3/pala 2, swift action. move 5 feet/two caster levels. RKV, anyone?

Its more effective to just use the shadow jump maneuver since you can just regain it with the other RKV ability.

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Re: Spells that deserve more attention!
« Reply #233 on: February 11, 2010, 03:26:07 AM »
Suffer the Flesh from Magic of Eberron, as Phaenix recently noted in the Simple Question thread, is pretty nice if you can get around the ability damage. Being immune won't work, but Naberius will.

Reason I don't like this spell: 250 GP comopnent. Not worth it.
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« Reply #234 on: February 11, 2010, 12:46:30 PM »
Suffer the Flesh from Magic of Eberron, as Phaenix recently noted in the Simple Question thread, is pretty nice if you can get around the ability damage. Being immune won't work, but Naberius will.

Reason I don't like this spell: 250 GP comopnent. Not worth it.
Since it's a ruby and not something really weird, it probably can be made with other spells. And by high levels, 250 gp for all-day +5 CL sounds like a nice deal to me. I agree that it's annoying, though.
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« Reply #235 on: February 11, 2010, 01:02:38 PM »
Suffer the Flesh from Magic of Eberron, as Phaenix recently noted in the Simple Question thread, is pretty nice if you can get around the ability damage. Being immune won't work, but Naberius will.

As a Persistent Spell, sure, but not for 1 spell.

Reason I don't like this spell: 250 GP comopnent. Not worth it.
Since it's a ruby and not something really weird, it probably can be made with other spells. And by high levels, 250 gp for all-day +5 CL sounds like a nice deal to me. I agree that it's annoying, though.
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Re: Spells that deserve more attention!
« Reply #236 on: February 11, 2010, 01:21:08 PM »
Suffer the Flesh from Magic of Eberron, as Phaenix recently noted in the Simple Question thread, is pretty nice if you can get around the ability damage. Being immune won't work, but Naberius will.

Reason I don't like this spell: 250 GP comopnent. Not worth it.
Since it's a ruby and not something really weird, it probably can be made with other spells. And by high levels, 250 gp for all-day +5 CL sounds like a nice deal to me. I agree that it's annoying, though.

As a Persistent Spell, sure, but not for 1 spell.
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Yeah, for a single round it's definitely not worth it. The main appeal lies in its persistability.
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Re: Spells that deserve more attention!
« Reply #237 on: February 11, 2010, 03:24:44 PM »
Personal favorite is Touch of Idiocy 1d6 penalty to INT WIS and CHA with a level 2 spell, cant go below one but you can probably find something that can remove those last points...

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Re: Spells that deserve more attention!
« Reply #238 on: February 12, 2010, 12:08:46 AM »
Personal favorite is Touch of Idiocy 1d6 penalty to INT WIS and CHA with a level 2 spell, cant go below one but you can probably find something that can remove those last points...

Well i can't think of anything to help remove the last points but, with the 'Reserves of Strength' feat, you are instantly any caster's worst nightmare as you turn that 1d6 into Xd6.
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Re: Spells that deserve more attention!
« Reply #239 on: February 12, 2010, 12:53:27 AM »
Personal favorite is Touch of Idiocy 1d6 penalty to INT WIS and CHA with a level 2 spell, cant go below one but you can probably find something that can remove those last points...

Well i can't think of anything to help remove the last points but, with the 'Reserves of Strength' feat, you are instantly any caster's worst nightmare as you turn that 1d6 into Xd6.

Buh? How's that work? Reserves of Strength increases your caster level and lets you break CL caps, but that 1d6 isn't CL-based.