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Necklace of Adaptation vs Solid Fog
« on: December 19, 2009, 04:23:51 AM »
Am I correct in assuming that wearing a necklace of adaptation prevents the movement-inhibiting effects of solid fogs and similar? I'm sure the vision-impairing effects would still be in...err...effect, but I was wondering what anyone else had to say about it.

It does say you're immune to "all harmful vapors and gases." Does that count?

It doesn't say anything RAW, but being as how you're surrounded in a cocoon of air, how would that affect swimming?
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Re: Necklace of Adaptation vs Solid Fog
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2009, 04:31:37 AM »
Solid Fog is not harmful. Cloyingly thick, perhaps.

And you're reading much too far on swimming as well - consider that shell of air to be skintight.

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Re: Necklace of Adaptation vs Solid Fog
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2009, 05:28:25 AM »
I could see it.  If it surrounds you with a bubble of fresh air, which magically displaces or purifies the Solid Fog as it goes, then you'd be fine.  Certainly not overpowered given the item, as that spell needs a few more vulnerabilities anyway.

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Re: Necklace of Adaptation vs Solid Fog
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2009, 01:52:17 PM »
I'd say no, it doesn't work because solid fog isn't harmful. Annoying? Yes. Impeding? Yes. Harmful? No because it doesn't adversely affect your character's health. However it would stop the cloud kill & solid fog trick due to the lack of cloud kill affecting you.
For when swimming "Hey look I'm surrounded by a small layer of air. I breathe that so it is impossible for me to drown." However It would have no effect on swim checks.
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Re: Necklace of Adaptation vs Solid Fog
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2009, 03:00:31 PM »
All though if you think about it, being wrapped in a layer of air would increase your buoyancy.
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Re: Necklace of Adaptation vs Solid Fog
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2010, 05:43:23 PM »
All though if you think about it, being wrapped in a layer of air would increase your buoyancy.

actually, decrease. it is the water providing buoyancy, not the air. the water is being displaced by the skintight layer of air, thus lowering the amount of support you have. this would in turn cause you to sink like a stone until you hit something that can support the sucker.

i do believe i saw a ruling that it does eliminate the penalties of fogs, but i don't recall where i read that. i could see a point being made of one air cushion pushing against another (air vs fog) still leading to drag regardless, thus an effective reduction in speed is unavoidable, but whatever. ^^
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Re: Necklace of Adaptation vs Solid Fog
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2010, 06:18:51 PM »
All though if you think about it, being wrapped in a layer of air would increase your buoyancy.

actually, decrease. it is the water providing buoyancy, not the air. the water is being displaced by the skintight layer of air, thus lowering the amount of support you have. this would in turn cause you to sink like a stone until you hit something that can support the sucker.

i do believe i saw a ruling that it does eliminate the penalties of fogs, but i don't recall where i read that. i could see a point being made of one air cushion pushing against another (air vs fog) still leading to drag regardless, thus an effective reduction in speed is unavoidable, but whatever. ^^
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Re: Necklace of Adaptation vs Solid Fog
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2010, 09:37:13 PM »
not necessarily, since freedom of movement neglects to specify exactly how it works, unlike the necklace. for all we know it shoves the water with just enough extra force of movement for the wearer to move correctly. but if that were the case, then a wearer should be able to walk on water. ^^ handy when you can cry 'magic' to avoid detailing physics.
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Re: Necklace of Adaptation vs Solid Fog
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2010, 11:38:28 AM »
Well, maybe if you envision a force field that only keeps air in...
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Re: Necklace of Adaptation vs Solid Fog
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2010, 02:14:53 PM »
Well, maybe if you envision a force field that only keeps air in...
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Re: Necklace of Adaptation vs Solid Fog
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2010, 03:15:48 PM »
What about a DFA's chilling fog...  That is solid fog that actually harms you after all.  Would the necklace protect against that?
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Re: Necklace of Adaptation vs Solid Fog
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2010, 04:47:56 PM »
Well, maybe if you envision a force field that only keeps air in...
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Re: Necklace of Adaptation vs Solid Fog
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2010, 04:53:29 PM »
Though considering the effect of having nearly pure oxygen in a layer around very flammable clothing(which water can't reach)....
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Re: Necklace of Adaptation vs Solid Fog
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2010, 06:10:02 PM »
guess we have to let the nitrogen through too, in that case. ^^
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Re: Necklace of Adaptation vs Solid Fog
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2010, 12:34:48 PM »
The existing nitrogen from the atmosphere can stay, it's not used up by respiration.
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