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generally, metabreath spells are reserved for true dragons, casters who gain a breath weapon through a spell, UMD, custom item abuse, or Gestalt.
need 4 levels of paladin for sword of the arcane order.
Ur-Priest + Prc Paladin? Really?
Quote from: Optimator on November 30, 2009, 09:44:37 PMUr-Priest + Prc Paladin? Really?Yes. Ur's don't have to be evil, and PrC Pally's by UA extrapolation exist for all alignments. -points to black hat-
Quote from: KellKheraptis on November 30, 2009, 09:58:44 PMQuote from: Optimator on November 30, 2009, 09:44:37 PMUr-Priest + Prc Paladin? Really?Yes. Ur's don't have to be evil, and PrC Pally's by UA extrapolation exist for all alignments. -points to black hat-I just looked up the alignment restrictions of the Ur Priest prestige class... it says "Any Evil". Is there something I'm missing?
primary class.
Quote from: Rebel7284 on November 30, 2009, 08:48:47 PMneed 4 levels of paladin for sword of the arcane order.Yes and no. Dragon Magic gives us the tool needed here, as any class with shares a spell list may qualify with enough levels. That includes PrC's. After PrC Pally, ED qualifies at level 4, as it shares the paladin list.
Non-PC activities like out of combat healing should be left to wands and NPCs. It's not fun to play a walking wand of CLW. Likewise, being a combat wall is not a viable PC role. A Wall of Force could do that.-Sort of, but you left out the important note that a Wall of Force does it better.
The most powerful character is the one that you actually get to play.
I often have to remind people not to underrate divination. The ability to effectively metagame without actually metagaming beats the ability to set things on fire more times than not.
Quote from: KellKheraptis on November 30, 2009, 08:54:15 PMQuote from: Rebel7284 on November 30, 2009, 08:48:47 PMneed 4 levels of paladin for sword of the arcane order.Yes and no. Dragon Magic gives us the tool needed here, as any class with shares a spell list may qualify with enough levels. That includes PrC's. After PrC Pally, ED qualifies at level 4, as it shares the paladin list.Cool. What is the part of Dragon magic that does that? That allows for an aweful lot of awesomeness ....Best,David P.S. Made a Cleric/Prestige Paladin/ Sword of the Arcane Order build 2 years ago, but I was always uncomfortable by the shakey Raw ground ...
I really don't think you can qualify with other Prestige Class...Quoteprimary class.Also, about mixing it up with Ur-Priest casting...QuoteI don't really think you cast the Paladin Spells as Paladin Spells, you cast them as Ur-Priest spells, thus, they shouldn't really qualify for Sword of the Arcane Order
Quote from: Anklebite on November 30, 2009, 02:13:07 PMgenerally, metabreath spells are reserved for true dragons, casters who gain a breath weapon through a spell, UMD, custom item abuse, or Gestalt.Also dragonborn characters with the heart aspect.
http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19870954/The_New_Dragonfire_Adept_Handbook
Do DFA's get a good Fort Save? If so :DFA 5/Ur-Priest 2/PrC Pally 1/Eldritch Disciple 7/Eldritch Theurge 5Gives you full progression on Ur-Priest, 17th level DFA capability, access to Sword of the Arcane Order, and as such Wizard spells in the Ur-Priest slots, and Spellblast from ET 5. Also gains 3 Gifts from ED. Sexy!
