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Re: New Geomancer musings...
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2009, 07:55:21 PM »
Sword of Arcane Order allows you to prepare wizard spells in your paladin/ranger spell slots. Now, that's TO at best; but then again so is taking Venerable Dragonwrought Loredrake Kobold Paladin 4/Sorerer 4/Geomancer 10/PRC 2 to get free quickens on all your spells with Battle Blessing.

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Re: New Geomancer musings...
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2009, 08:03:30 PM »
Eh, clearly I'm thick, how are you qualifying for Battle Blessing, Sword of the Arcane Order and Initiate of Mystra?

Archivists have each of those spell lists integrated into their own as a result of having access to every divine spell.  Probably another one that needs a TO tag, but meh...that's kind of my MO.  If I could get the same spell lists on a Cleric base it would be even better IMO.

I'm for that not being considered optimization because Archivist relies on the DM feeling sorry for you and actually giving you scrolls with those spells written on them.  You can do lots of crap if the DM allows it, which isn't within the realm of optimization in the least.
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Re: New Geomancer musings...
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2009, 08:58:46 PM »
Eh, clearly I'm thick, how are you qualifying for Battle Blessing, Sword of the Arcane Order and Initiate of Mystra?

Archivists have each of those spell lists integrated into their own as a result of having access to every divine spell.  Probably another one that needs a TO tag, but meh...that's kind of my MO.  If I could get the same spell lists on a Cleric base it would be even better IMO.

I'm for that not being considered optimization because Archivist relies on the DM feeling sorry for you and actually giving you scrolls with those spells written on them.  You can do lots of crap if the DM allows it, which isn't within the realm of optimization in the least.

That's what Leadership is for.  And I never once said this won't be a big hairy mess of TO, because generally when I do some sort of thought exercise like this, it swiftly becomes TO.  CO of Geomancer would be using Prestige Paladin on a fast advancing class, such as Ur-Priest, giving all the perks of divine casting with none of the ASF.  Note that that also would be able to autoquicken all its spells via Battle Blessing, but lose out on the Druid list, short of being a kobold, and lose out on parts of the Ranger and Bard lists.
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Re: New Geomancer musings...
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2009, 04:03:29 PM »
I'm just waiting for someone to do something silly now like rainbow warmage geomancer...
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Re: New Geomancer musings...
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2009, 04:39:22 PM »
I'm just waiting for someone to do something silly now like rainbow warmage geomancer...

If you can find my Warsnake guide on 339, I already have :P
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Re: New Geomancer musings...
« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2009, 09:18:42 PM »
Throw in a dip of Sacred Exorcist and Silver Pyromancer and Battle Blessing while you're at it... or maybe you already have.
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Re: New Geomancer musings...
« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2009, 10:05:10 PM »
Throw in a dip of Sacred Exorcist and Silver Pyromancer and Battle Blessing while you're at it... or maybe you already have.

SacEx yes.  SP...I think I left that off because of it's whole "we wanna buttfuck Warmages and Beguilers so they can't learn spells from us" clause.  Otherwise SP would be an awesome dip, especially for blasters.
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Re: New Geomancer musings...
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2009, 05:27:03 AM »
Which clause is that? I thought one merely had to worship the sacred flame.

edit: or just go with prestige paladin at some point
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Re: New Geomancer musings...
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2009, 05:47:21 AM »
Which clause is that? I thought one merely had to worship the sacred flame.

edit: or just go with prestige paladin at some point

PrC Pally is my usual, if nothing else for the BAB in a gish.  I've seen several times that Silver Pyromancer doesn't add to the lists of predetermined casters, i.e. Warmages/Beguilers/Dread Necros.
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