Character planning

[VennDygrem]

I think I'm also going to say that for outsiders with innate shapechanging powers, gender is also relative. So even though you all share a parent, it might not be everyone's "mother".

Well, it was you who said:

Sounds like a joke:

What's the difference between an Incubus and a Succubus?
One standard action.

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Ninja'd by Agita.
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And while I would love for gobs of d6s worth of damage as part of the build, I can wait to build them up later on. I'm also fairly sure the highest I can get it is 8d6, though I miiiight be able to push it to 12d6.

[Kuroimaken]

I'm a Rainbow Warmage! How do I get my damage potential up? 

Use a homebrew Warmage fix that gets better damage? I like Prime32's, myself. How many levels of WM do you have, anywaY? One, two, three, or five?
Also, Fort partial or Fort half spells are preferable to Ref half/partial spells as far as my character is concerned.

I think I'm also going to say that for outsiders with innate shapechanging powers, gender is also relative. So even though you all share a parent, it might not be everyone's "mother".

The difference between a succubus and an incubus...
Wasn't it you who made that joke in the first placE? Maybe I'm misremembering.

Well, since I'll be using Versatile Spellcaster + Heighten Spell to qualify (I could go for Eldritch Corruption + being an evil outsider, but the end result would probably be the same, since I don't have that many feats to begin with), that'd actually be 4. Hmmm. Totally not satisfied with that.

Can you point me to a few homebrew fixes?

[Agita]

I'm a Rainbow Warmage! How do I get my damage potential up? 

Use a homebrew Warmage fix that gets better damage? I like Prime32's, myself. How many levels of WM do you have, anywaY? One, two, three, or five?
Also, Fort partial or Fort half spells are preferable to Ref half/partial spells as far as my character is concerned.

I think I'm also going to say that for outsiders with innate shapechanging powers, gender is also relative. So even though you all share a parent, it might not be everyone's "mother".

The difference between a succubus and an incubus...
Wasn't it you who made that joke in the first placE? Maybe I'm misremembering.

Well, since I'll be using Versatile Spellcaster + Heighten Spell to qualify (I could go for Eldritch Corruption + being an evil outsider, but the end result would probably be the same, since I don't have that many feats to begin with), that'd actually be 4. Hmmm. Totally not satisfied with that.

Can you point me to a few homebrew fixes?

Here's two from our own boards. They both still have a dead level at 4, though.
3.5 Class Fixes by Prime32
The 1,000,000th Warmage Fix by X-Codes

[VennDygrem]

Here's a Warmage fix from the Gaming Den, meant to be part of the Tome of Tiamat project.

[Agita]

Win: the Warmage wins the game. There is no saving throw for this. Note that this doesn't actually affect the game.

I lost the Game.

[Kuroimaken]

Thanks for being so helpful, guys.

[PhaedrusXY]

Here's a Warmage fix from the Gaming Den, meant to be part of the Tome of Tiamat project.

I remember that. I think it would be ok. I'll look over it again when I get a chance.

[Agita]

Speaking of class rewrites, would you mind if I try some power-grabbing by asking to use a Rogue rewrite?

[Kuroimaken]

Here's a Warmage fix from the Gaming Den, meant to be part of the Tome of Tiamat project.

I remember that. I think it would be ok. I'll look over it again when I get a chance.

Yeah, out of the ones presented, this one made me think "now THAT is a warmage!"

[VennDygrem]

I mostly remembered it because someone's playing one in another PbP (which, of course, has since sort of dissolved). It caught my eye, and looks fairly impressive for what it is. Plus, you just can't beat that 'Win' ability.

[Prime32]

Here's two from our own boards. They both still have a dead level at 4, though.
3.5 Class Fixes by Prime32
The 1,000,000th Warmage Fix by X-Codes

What are you talking about? That's when you get 2nd-level spells!

(Eh, I could stick in a reserve feat, Spell Penetration, or a caster level boost or something. My idea of a warmage is one who would easily win in a Beam O War against a wizard of equal level)
[spoiler]

Warmage

Hit Die: d6

Class Skills: The warmage's class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Concentration (Con), Craft (Int), Intimidate (Cha), Knowledge (arcana) (Int), Knowledge (history) (Int), Profession (Wis), and Spellcraft (Int).
Skill Points per Level: 2 + Int modifier.

BAB: Poor
Saves: Fort poor, Ref poor, Will good.

Lv	Class Features
1	Spells, Warmage Edge, Armoured Mage (light), Augment +1
2	Advanced learning
3	Metamagic effect
4	Spell power +1
5	Advanced learning, Augment +2
6	Metamagic effect
7	Armoured Mage (medium)
8	Advanced learning, Spell power +2
9	Metamagic effect
10	Augment +3
11	Advanced learning
12	Metamagic effect, Spell power +3
13	-
14	Advanced learning
15	Augment +4, Metamagic effect
16	Spell power +4
17	Advanced learning
18	Metamagic effect
19	-
20	Augment +5, Spell power +5

Warmage Edge (Su): A warmage's damage dealing spells deal extra damage equal to the warmage's Int modifier multiplied by the spell level (treat 0-level spells as half-level for this purpose).

Augment (Su): A warmage gains a number of augment points per day equal to his class level. When casting a spell, he may expend one augment point to apply the benefits of 1 level of metamagic feats to the spell (or reduce the cost of metamagic by 1 level). At every fifth level, the level of metamagic he can apply to a single spell is increased by one. (So that a 15th-level warmage could quicken a spell or maximise and empower it).

Metamagic Effect: At every 3rd level, a warmage learns a metamagic feat for which he meets the prerequisites. He may only use this feat in conjunction with his warmage spells.

Advanced Learning: At 2nd level and every 3rd level thereafter, a warmage adds one spell from the wizard/sorcerer list to his spell list.

Spell Power (Ex): At every 4th level, a warmage's caster level increases by 1.

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[Bozwevial]

Plus, you just can't beat that 'Win' ability.

I dunno, it seems a little underpowered. I'd change it to a two part ability:

Win: At 10th level, the Warmage wins the game. There is no saving throw for this. Note that this doesn't actually affect the game.

At 20th level, the Warmage wins twice.

[Bozwevial]

Quick question: Are the fukimi-bari from Oriental Adventures okay with you? Yes, they would be nice for death attacks, but I'm going to assume that the damage from a death attack only applies to the first needle, even though I can spit three per attack. Otherwise, that'd be just silly. (Besides, if I need multiple death attacks, I have Rapid Shot. ) Alternatively, we can just assume that I spit one per attack.

[Agita]

Quick question: Are the fukimi-bari from Oriental Adventures okay with you? Yes, they would be nice for death attacks, but I'm going to assume that the damage from a death attack only applies to the first needle, even though I can spit three per attack. Otherwise, that'd be just silly. (Besides, if I need multiple death attacks, I have Rapid Shot. ) Alternatively, we can just assume that I spit one per attack.

Those are fun. Especially when coated with black lotus extract.

[Kuroimaken]

Quick question: Are the fukimi-bari from Oriental Adventures okay with you? Yes, they would be nice for death attacks, but I'm going to assume that the damage from a death attack only applies to the first needle, even though I can spit three per attack. Otherwise, that'd be just silly. (Besides, if I need multiple death attacks, I have Rapid Shot. ) Alternatively, we can just assume that I spit one per attack.

Those are fun. Especially when coated with black lotus extract.

If a little unsavory, for something you keep in your mouth...

[Bozwevial]

Those are fun. Especially when coated with black lotus extract.

If a little unsavory, for something you keep in your mouth...

Yeah, but I could totally do that, since I have immunity to a select number of poisons. Might make me want to brush my teeth a lot, though.

[HeadofVecna]

Phaedrus, speaking of powerups, I should mention that the Time sphere special ability is awesomesauce (TY!). But in the eternal quest for MORE, is The Path of Blood feat OK. And if so, can I start with a trio of vampiric Uthraki (Unapproachable East) for minions?

The Blood War bit was in response to this. That's what I get for not quoting, I suppose.

Horribly manipulate in what way?

I'm still working that out. It could be something straightforward, like mind control to achieve objectives related to the Blood War. Or it could be more exotic. Interesting note: if Xuuvosic were to hit 17th level he'd theoretically be able to travel back in time by spamming Time Regression twice a round. So Mom could have met a future version of my character, and be using information gained from the meeting to try to take advantage of the Pun-Pun catastrophe.

I doubt any of the PC's would be inclined to take an interest in the Blood War. That's where manipulation would come in. But really, running wild with crazy time travel stuff is going to be more interesting anyway.

[Agita]

Phaedrus, speaking of powerups, I should mention that the Time sphere special ability is awesomesauce (TY!). But in the eternal quest for MORE, is The Path of Blood feat OK. And if so, can I start with a trio of vampiric Uthraki (Unapproachable East) for minions?

I wholeheartedly endorse this. Having a bunch of vampires that won't keep adding those neg levels once one is on would be useful for the Touch of Death ritual.

Still tinkering with equipment...

[InnaBinder]

Still tinkering with equipment...

That makes 2 of us.

[Bozwevial]

Still tinkering with equipment...

That makes 2 of us.

I think I have mine settled. Unless someone else has a Portable Hole/Enveloping Pit.