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Agita · « **Reply #980 on:** July 10, 2010, 05:44:09 PM »

Good news: I've gotten off my lazy ass and resumed working on my sheet update. Now to look over the past few pages to remember all the stuff I said I was going to get...

Quote from: PhaedrusXY on June 28, 2010, 04:28:45 PM

In fact... maybe we should just get rid of the penalties on Legacy Weapons entirely...

Was there a decision on this?

I wholeheartedly support it, for the record.

EDIT: Permanent Int increases don't apply to skill points retroactively, do they?

Kuroimaken · « **Reply #981 on:** July 10, 2010, 08:32:09 PM »

Quote from: Agita on July 10, 2010, 05:44:09 PM

Good news: I've gotten off my lazy ass and resumed working on my sheet update. Now to look over the past few pages to remember all the stuff I said I was going to get...

Quote from: PhaedrusXY on June 28, 2010, 04:28:45 PM
In fact... maybe we should just get rid of the penalties on Legacy Weapons entirely...
Was there a decision on this? I wholeheartedly support it, for the record.

EDIT: Permanent Int increases don't apply to skill points retroactively, do they?

They totally should, for lack of headaches!

Agita · « **Reply #982 on:** July 10, 2010, 08:42:02 PM »

Quote from: Kuroimaken on July 10, 2010, 08:32:09 PM

Quote from: Agita on July 10, 2010, 05:44:09 PM
Good news: I've gotten off my lazy ass and resumed working on my sheet update. Now to look over the past few pages to remember all the stuff I said I was going to get...

Quote from: PhaedrusXY on June 28, 2010, 04:28:45 PM
In fact... maybe we should just get rid of the penalties on Legacy Weapons entirely...
Was there a decision on this? I wholeheartedly support it, for the record.

EDIT: Permanent Int increases don't apply to skill points retroactively, do they?

They totally should, for lack of headaches!

Well, it would cause less headaches during character creation, but far more now, when I'd need to update my new skill point total.

VennDygrem · « **Reply #983 on:** July 11, 2010, 01:00:50 AM »

I'm almost positive that they do not, only to skill points going forward like Int increases from levels (I just read it somewhere thinking of the same question). I will hunt down this information pronto.

That was fast:

Quote from: Tome of Clear Thought

Because the tome of clear thought provides an inherent bonus, the reader will earn extra skill points when she attains a new level.

It follows that the same principle applies here.

Kuroimaken · « **Reply #984 on:** July 11, 2010, 03:09:49 AM »

Insofar as I'm aware, permanent Int increases do not affect skill points retroactively at all. However, that is a stupid, stupid rule which should be beaten to death with a tentacle and then sodomized with reality.

VennDygrem · « **Reply #985 on:** July 11, 2010, 05:58:45 AM »

It makes sense to me, honestly. Suddenly becoming smarter doesn't change the things you've already learned. You'd have to be some kind of time-traveler... oh wait.

HeadofVecna · « **Reply #986 on:** July 11, 2010, 04:23:07 PM »

I thought there was a mention somewhere that they did apply retroactively for this campaign. But I'm not sure how that would have come up before now. I certainly hope they do.

PhaedrusXY · « **Reply #987 on:** July 11, 2010, 09:18:34 PM »

Quote from: HeadofVecna on July 11, 2010, 04:23:07 PM

I thought there was a mention somewhere that they did apply retroactively for this campaign. But I'm not sure how that would have come up before now. I certainly hope they do.

I don't remember ever commenting on it. I think it would actually be less of a headache if they don't. Otherwise, you have to go back and figure out what you could have taken at every appropriate level with the new points. (Or did I give everyone Able Learner or something and forget?)

I don't really care either way, so we'll go with whatever consensus you guys reach on the skill points.

Yeah, go ahead and drop the Legacy penalties.

HeadofVecna · « **Reply #988 on:** July 12, 2010, 01:36:50 AM »

You did give everyone everyone Able Learner.

Quote from: PhaedrusXY on November 18, 2009, 08:03:34 PM

I have no problem with the "cross-class skills don't count double skill points" rule, either. Basically, everyone would get Able Learner for free. I should have probably mentioned that before now. Hope it doesn't make our resident clerk/assassin flip out and stab me with a pen or something.

PhaedrusXY · « **Reply #989 on:** July 12, 2010, 11:35:18 AM »

Quote from: HeadofVecna on July 12, 2010, 01:36:50 AM

You did give everyone everyone Able Learner.

Quote from: PhaedrusXY on November 18, 2009, 08:03:34 PM
I have no problem with the "cross-class skills don't count double skill points" rule, either. Basically, everyone would get Able Learner for free. I should have probably mentioned that before now. Hope it doesn't make our resident clerk/assassin flip out and stab me with a pen or something.

OK, great. I should probably put that in the house rules thread, so we don't have to look for it anymore.

Yeah, you guys can get retroactive skill points from your inherent bonus to Int.

Agita · « **Reply #990 on:** July 12, 2010, 11:37:01 AM »

Bah, more paperwork. Stupid taking five different classes with four different amounts of skill points per level.

PhaedrusXY · « **Reply #991 on:** July 12, 2010, 11:39:03 AM »

Quote from: Agita on July 12, 2010, 11:37:01 AM

Bah, more paperwork. Stupid taking five different classes with four different amounts of skill points per level.

Well, with Able Learner at least you only have to figure out your total amount of skill points, and assign them. Without it, making a character like that starting above 1st level is a nightmare...

VennDygrem · « **Reply #992 on:** July 12, 2010, 11:42:05 AM »

It's not hard figuring out how many you get, regardless of number of classes. It's 2 more skill points if you had an even Int score pre-bonus, or 3 more if you had an odd Int score pre-bonus.

Agita · « **Reply #993 on:** July 12, 2010, 11:42:35 AM »

I also need to pay attention to which skills were maxed at what level and which were not - For example, I'd get 12 new skill points from my Rogue levels. I can't use these to max non-maxed skills, since all skills were maxed for those levels, and some only started falling behind as RJ took classes with fewer skill points. Unless I just get 16 new skill points and can assign them to whatever I like, which would indeed make the whole thing easy.

PhaedrusXY · « **Reply #994 on:** July 12, 2010, 11:54:39 AM »

Quote from: Agita on July 12, 2010, 11:42:35 AM

I also need to pay attention to which skills were maxed at what level and which were not - For example, I'd get 12 new skill points from my Rogue levels. I can't use these to max non-maxed skills, since all skills were maxed for those levels, and some only started falling behind as RJ took classes with fewe skill points. Unless I just get 16 new skill points and can assign them to whatever I like, which would indeed make the whole thing easy.

Oh yeah, that's right... Why don't we just forget this whole thing? I mean seriously. It's just a lot easier to add a few skill points when you level rather than have to go back and figure that crap out... I don't want to make converting to the Wish Economy even more of a pain in the ass than it already is...

Sorry if I got your hopes up, HoV.

Kuroimaken · « **Reply #995 on:** July 12, 2010, 12:37:38 PM »

Whelp, as much as I would've enjoyed some shiny new skill points, I wouldn't want to make things a pain by insisting on it.

VennDygrem · « **Reply #996 on:** July 12, 2010, 12:53:16 PM »

Besides, as I pointed out earlier, you're only supposed to add new skill points when you level up, anyway.

PhaedrusXY · « **Reply #997 on:** July 13, 2010, 05:30:36 PM »

So how close are we to kicking this thing off again?

Agita · « **Reply #998 on:** July 13, 2010, 05:40:40 PM »

Quote from: PhaedrusXY on July 13, 2010, 05:30:36 PM

So how close are we to kicking this thing off again?

I'm still procrastinating on my items, otherwise I'm done.

Kuroimaken · « **Reply #999 on:** July 13, 2010, 05:44:11 PM »

I'm going to get mine done by tonight, I promise. >.>;;

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