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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #940 on: June 28, 2010, 04:15:01 PM »
I'm torn on some of the enhancements...does Collision or Force sound like a better option to you guys? I like the idea of being able to ignore DR and incorporeality, but on the off chance we run into something immune to force effects my weapon is useless.

What incorporeal creatures are immune to force effects? What creatures in general are?
As far as I know, Force dragons are immune to force. That's it. Definitely go with Force. Myself, I'm torn on what to do with my vanilla dagger. Add another +1 property or replace Eager with a +2 (like Collision for more static damage)?
How does Umbral Awn work in regards to enchanting it with more effects? It's kind of weird, since it gets enchantments on its own. Right now it counts as a magic Ghost Touch dagger. So I guess I could theoretically Wish to put another +1 ability on it?
...Do two Eager weapons stack with each other? :smirk
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #941 on: June 28, 2010, 04:22:08 PM »
That and half-force-dragons, IIRC.

Also, should I go with death ward, ghost ward, and light fortification, or just heavy fortification?

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #942 on: June 28, 2010, 04:28:45 PM »
Don't read too far into my last post. I'm not really that heavily disappointed.
Good. :P

As far as I know, Force dragons are immune to force. That's it.
Well... Void Incarnates are also, but that's another epic level threat that you guys shouldn't have to worry about. Other than that, it would just be things inside AMFs, which of course opens up a whole other can of worms. ;)

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How does Umbral Awn work in regards to enchanting it with more effects? It's kind of weird, since it gets enchantments on its own. Right now it counts as a magic Ghost Touch dagger. So I guess I could theoretically Wish to put another +1 ability on it?
Yeah, that's fine. I think it is a bit weak considering the penalties you get from using it. In fact... maybe we should just get rid of the penalties on Legacy Weapons entirely...
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...Do two Eager weapons stack with each other? :smirk
No. Same source.

You can have more than two weapons of course, and you don't have to attune them (and they won't take up one of your 8 item slots) as long as they're only "use activated" and not "continuous". So you could have an Eager/Warning weapon attuned, use that to determine your initiative, and then drop it and draw something else to attack with after you've started your turn. Or get some Eager/Warning armor spikes or something. Of course, this weapon will take up an item slot if you want to benefit from the Initiative boost.



Edit: Wait. Umbral Awn also gets +1d6 sneak attack dice, which IIRC is the equivalent of a +1 or +2 ability itself, isn't it?
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #943 on: June 28, 2010, 04:51:31 PM »
Honestly, Im not all that worried about my Initiative. Much more than what I already have would just be overkill. The main appeal of Eager for me is the +2 damage during the surprise round and first round of combat by this point.
Edit: Wait. Umbral Awn also gets +1d6 sneak attack dice, which IIRC is the equivalent of a +1 or +2 ability itself, isn't it?
True, that it does. It also gives another fairly nifty ability. So much for that, then.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #944 on: June 28, 2010, 10:05:40 PM »
That and half-force-dragons, IIRC.
Either RotD or DM had a ruling on this - most types of dragons with unusual breath weapons are not immune to their energy type.

Wall of force and related effects are immune to antimagic fields and can in fact block them.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #945 on: June 28, 2010, 10:13:43 PM »
That and half-force-dragons, IIRC.
Either RotD or DM had a ruling on this - most types of dragons with unusual breath weapons are not immune to their energy type.

Yeah, RotD says half-force dragons do not have immunity to force energy.

(pg. 71)

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« Reply #946 on: June 29, 2010, 01:56:18 AM »
I'll take a peek if I have time later. I do not envy you having to manage all that crap. I think Xuuvosic is probably an even bigger headach than Eddie is. :P

Over seventy believers to manage! That's crazed! Looking over Eddie's sheet also makes me glad the alternate form rules were fixed for this campaign. Under normal rules its too strong to ignore, but statting it out would be a huge pain.

Yet, I shudder with the knowledge that Wish economy inherent bonuses opened up 4 more minion slots.  :blink

That and half-force-dragons, IIRC.

Also, should I go with death ward, ghost ward, and light fortification, or just heavy fortification?

I like Ghost Ward and a Formless Vest (also MIC) personally

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #947 on: June 29, 2010, 01:25:52 PM »
Don't read too far into my last post. I'm not really that heavily disappointed.
Good. :P

As far as I know, Force dragons are immune to force. That's it.
Well... Void Incarnates are also, but that's another epic level threat that you guys shouldn't have to worry about. Other than that, it would just be things inside AMFs, which of course opens up a whole other can of worms. ;)

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How does Umbral Awn work in regards to enchanting it with more effects? It's kind of weird, since it gets enchantments on its own. Right now it counts as a magic Ghost Touch dagger. So I guess I could theoretically Wish to put another +1 ability on it?
Yeah, that's fine. I think it is a bit weak considering the penalties you get from using it. In fact... maybe we should just get rid of the penalties on Legacy Weapons entirely...
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...Do two Eager weapons stack with each other? :smirk
No. Same source.

You can have more than two weapons of course, and you don't have to attune them (and they won't take up one of your 8 item slots) as long as they're only "use activated" and not "continuous". So you could have an Eager/Warning weapon attuned, use that to determine your initiative, and then drop it and draw something else to attack with after you've started your turn. Or get some Eager/Warning armor spikes or something. Of course, this weapon will take up an item slot if you want to benefit from the Initiative boost.



Edit: Wait. Umbral Awn also gets +1d6 sneak attack dice, which IIRC is the equivalent of a +1 or +2 ability itself, isn't it?
Wait. If Legacy Weapons get no penalties, I want my BFS to be a Legacy Weapon.  :D
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #948 on: June 29, 2010, 01:55:59 PM »
Wait. If Legacy Weapons get no penalties, I want my BFS to be a Legacy Weapon.  :D
That's fine. Stat it up as one.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #949 on: June 29, 2010, 02:31:06 PM »
Wait. If Legacy Weapons get no penalties, I want my BFS to be a Legacy Weapon.  :D
That's fine. Stat it up as one.
Legacy weapons for everyone! :D

...just kidding. I haven't done anything awesome enough with this crossbow for it to count. :P

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #950 on: June 29, 2010, 04:39:59 PM »
And my fists and feet are pretty great, but I don't think they can count as Legacy weapons. :P

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #951 on: June 29, 2010, 05:02:21 PM »
And my fists and feet are pretty great, but I don't think they can count as Legacy weapons. :P
You've never played God Hand, have you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAga2AjfZlg
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #952 on: June 29, 2010, 06:53:40 PM »
Wait. If Legacy Weapons get no penalties, I want my BFS to be a Legacy Weapon.  :D
That's fine. Stat it up as one.

I haven't the slightest clue how to do that...

Lil' help?
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #953 on: June 29, 2010, 07:05:46 PM »
And my fists and feet are pretty great, but I don't think they can count as Legacy weapons. :P
You've never played God Hand, have you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAga2AjfZlg

Heh, that can be Cade's official theme song. Still, I don't think a limb qualifies for Legacy Weapon attributes. :)

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #954 on: June 29, 2010, 07:10:23 PM »
And my fists and feet are pretty great, but I don't think they can count as Legacy weapons. :P
You've never played God Hand, have you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAga2AjfZlg

Heh, that can be Cade's official theme song. Still, I don't think a limb qualifies for Legacy Weapon attributes. :)
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« Reply #955 on: June 29, 2010, 07:36:42 PM »
I suppose I could make up a new legacy item. A pair of gloves or bracers or something. Still, probably unnecessary. Not sure what they'd do, anyway. :)

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #956 on: June 29, 2010, 07:47:37 PM »
And my fists and feet are pretty great, but I don't think they can count as Legacy weapons. :P
You've never played God Hand, have you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAga2AjfZlg

Heh, that can be Cade's official theme song. Still, I don't think a limb qualifies for Legacy Weapon attributes. :)
It might if it was a prosthetic. ;)
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« Reply #957 on: June 29, 2010, 07:49:39 PM »
And my fists and feet are pretty great, but I don't think they can count as Legacy weapons. :P
You've never played God Hand, have you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAga2AjfZlg

Heh, that can be Cade's official theme song. Still, I don't think a limb qualifies for Legacy Weapon attributes. :)
It might if it was a prosthetic. ;)
A graft, maybe? There are a few decent ones.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #958 on: June 29, 2010, 07:50:11 PM »
And my fists and feet are pretty great, but I don't think they can count as Legacy weapons. :P
You've never played God Hand, have you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAga2AjfZlg

Heh, that can be Cade's official theme song. Still, I don't think a limb qualifies for Legacy Weapon attributes. :)
It might if it was a prosthetic. ;)
A graft, maybe? There are a few decent ones.
Did you read the page? :p The God Hand is a graft.
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Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #959 on: June 29, 2010, 07:53:28 PM »
I remember some metal prosthetic arms in D&D. I swear I thought they were called the Arm(s) of Nym, but I can't find them now for the life of me.

Edit: Arms of Nyr, Defenders of the Faith. Homebrewed stuff would also be fine, but I'd want to look at it first.
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