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« Reply #560 on: February 26, 2010, 01:42:47 PM »
That plan might work, but there are a couple of hitches that I can think of.

1) As I mentioned before, you can't cast spells from inside the pit and affect things on the outside (and vice-versa). However, you could hover so that your torso is sticking out, for example, and then drop into it after you cast.

2) Ris-Janna is under the effects of a fly spell. So once Xuuvosic grabs onto her, she's going to keep him aloft like a life preserver. They'd probably start "falling" slowly, since she isn't directing the spell consciously, but they're not going to plummet, unless he puts her above her maximum carrying load.


No to casting Fly on the rug, as it isn't a creature. Fly targets a creature not an object. You do notice that the rug is very finely crafted though, and has a mural on it that looks like clouds above a desert.

THAT is why my original plan used Cade. Tree guy is flying too. Even if he wanted to resist in midair, he couldn't, since Cade is too heavy.

If X can open the pit in midair, all he has to do is teleport up and release Cade (whom would then fall and grab RJ in mid-air). Upon nearing the ground, Tactical Teleportation ensures both him and RJ fall into the pit (we'll just have X hold it back up and teleport them above the pit. They should be fine).

Hitches solved. We good to go?  :D
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #561 on: February 26, 2010, 03:25:36 PM »
So X will teleport up with the pit, Cade will jump out and grab Ris-Janna, and they'll all start falling. X will then teleport himself and the pit back to the ground. Raoul will then use Tactical Teleportation to stop Cade's and R-J's fall and have them plop into the pit (or onto the ground or whatever. Don't forget that the pit is 50 feet deep... although at least half of that is currently filled with burned goblin bodies and scaffolding...). Then next round, X will teleport you all away. Sound right?

The only problem I see is that X can't fly, and so there won't really be much time for Cade to jump out of the pit before X (and the pit) starts falling away from R-J. I guess if they start above her it should work, though. It would all work better if X had a Fly spell, though. He could then hover like 200 feet above the tree-dude and R-J, and Cade could skydive from there down to grab her. Although... I should probably enforce falling damage on you guys for colliding with people in mid-air. :P


And a clarification... you don't only fall on your turn. Everyone's turns technically happen at the same time (a round is only 6 seconds long, not 6 seconds times the number of combatants). Things do happen in an order, though. So you can time things to work out as above via readied actions and the like. So yeah, I think this will work. You can talk about it in-character and then you and X can post your actions to pull it off. Cade will need to make a touch attack to grab Ris-Janna as he goes by, also. Since she's unconscious, she can't resist his grapple attempt. He'll have to use his move action to jump out of the pit, so he'll only get one try, though. :D

Also, in the future if you guys are falling past someone I'm only going to allow one melee attack as you pass, contrary to what I allowed X to do earlier. That's the way it works if you ride past someone while mounted, so we'll stick with that. If you're making ranged attacks, you can make them all (also as it works while mounted).
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #562 on: February 26, 2010, 05:01:55 PM »
This is all going way past my capacity to plan. :P

By the way, all this teleporting and falling and all reminds me of this scene, possibly the best from the whole series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdkCpnGMyGw

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« Reply #563 on: February 26, 2010, 05:12:25 PM »
Actually, the plan goes only partially according to your description. The big difference is that X would ideally teleport to ground level afterwards so as to be holding the pit opening facing upwards (thus ensuring they can enter it just as they're teleported to stop momentum). If I had a slightly higher caster level, I could teleport all three, but alas, that won't be for another level.

So, step-by-step:

1) X teleports above them, pit open. Him and Cade start falling (Cade is assumed to leap out of the pit once they teleport). End round 1.
2) Cade and X fall past Treeguy. At this point, Xuuvosic teleports to ground level, pit held upwards. Raoul teleports Cade and RJ on top of the pit. With Cade's size, the falling damage should be minimal, if any. Raoul then uses his move action to get in the pit himself. End Round 2.
3) Xuuvosic Teleports away to safety. End Round 3.

That's pretty much it.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #564 on: February 26, 2010, 05:27:43 PM »
Thing is, we're working under the assumption of different sizes for Cade. Will you be able to teleport him when he's in Gargantuan size?

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« Reply #565 on: February 26, 2010, 05:35:35 PM »
His size won't matter if he's teleported by Xuuvosic, seeming as he'll have to leap out of the pit. We'll also be targetting RJ, not the tree-dude, which means the tentacle area shouldn't pose a problem. The idea of using the freefall as a method of descent is to get out of enemy reach faster than he could nuke you - which he'd only be able to do if he were privy to the plan anyways.

Worst case scenario, I'll have to teleport two unconscious people into the pit rather than one, but that's the worst case scenario.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #566 on: February 26, 2010, 06:48:07 PM »
Hmm, sounds like I didn't go into enough detail explaining what I had in mind. I think its safer, faster, and uses less resources.

This round) Raoul cast fly on X and jumps in the pit. X uses his readied action to teleport to safety just as tree guy attacks.
Next round) X teleports as close as possible to RJ and moves to adjust for any drift. Cade grabs her from inside the pit. X uses his extra standard action to teleport back to safety.

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« Reply #567 on: February 26, 2010, 06:53:41 PM »
And in between, tree guy CdGs RJ? :p
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #568 on: February 26, 2010, 07:13:58 PM »
Thing is, I can only really reach her from inside the pit if I go gargantuan, right? But how do I fit in there with everyone else if I'm that big? Plus, it takes time for me to change size. Not sure how long it takes to dismiss my Harmless Form ability, but I assume it's a standard action.

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« Reply #569 on: February 26, 2010, 07:19:48 PM »
Thing is, I can only really reach her from inside the pit if I go gargantuan, right? But how do I fit in there with everyone else if I'm that big? Plus, it takes time for me to change size. Not sure how long it takes to dismiss my Harmless Form ability, but I assume it's a standard action.
Yeah, you can't fit in the pit at all if you're gargantuan. The pit opening is only 10 feet across, which is luckily how big the rug also happens to be. You'll barely fit into it while huge even (which is what size your "harmless form" is while you're under the effects of Enlarge). You have to "squeeze" to even fit into it while huge, which means that you're crammed into the top of it and basically stuck there unless you squirm (use move actions) to move out or down further into it.

Your reach is 15' when huge, though. So as long as you guys teleport adjacent to Ris-Janna (or move there), you'll be able to reach her while "standing" inside the pit. (I put quotes because... you're not exactly standing. More like a fat, demonic Santa stuck in the chimney. :P )

No one else will be able to move past you into the pit while you're stuck in the top of it, though. But I'll let Xuuvosic teleport you and anyone you're holding as if you were in the pit, as long as you're standing in it and holding the other person. We might be stretching the rules a bit here, but that's ok.


And in between, tree guy CdGs RJ? :p
Nobody told you to go play with him by yourself, as I recall. :P As evil as most of your party is, you're lucky they're coming to rescue you at all, I'd say. :D
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« Reply #570 on: February 26, 2010, 07:36:50 PM »
And in between, tree guy CdGs RJ? :p

I am worried about that. That's why X is talking smack to draw tree guy's fire. But if it doesn't work out how would you feel about RJ becoming a Tome Vampire:smirk  Then again, a Raise Dead scroll might be better. I'm just not sure if the 6K+ cost of one could be hand waived or not.

Nobody told you to go play with him by yourself, as I recall. :P As evil as most of your party is, you're lucky they're coming to rescue you at all, I'd say. :D

Heh, if X didn't know she is his sister he probably wouldn't be going to this much trouble.

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« Reply #571 on: February 26, 2010, 07:40:01 PM »
And in between, tree guy CdGs RJ? :p

I am worried about that. That's why X is talking smack to draw tree guy's fire. But if it doesn't work out how would you feel about RJ becoming a Tome Vampire:smirk  Then again, a Raise Dead scroll might be better. I'm just not sure if the 6K+ cost of one could be hand waived or not.
I wouldn't mind. The stat mods are practically useless to me, but I don't lose anything important either. Janna already hates (sun)light, and is already into blood anyway.

EDIT: Can't you also make ghouls? Those get +Dex and a bite attack, which translates to more to-hit, more damage, and more attacks. :D
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« Reply #572 on: February 26, 2010, 07:50:23 PM »
Then again, a Raise Dead scroll might be better. I'm just not sure if the 6K+ cost of one could be hand waived or not.
Check the house rules. You can't use scrolls to cast spells. With the system we're using, it is just too overpowered. Once you guys start using the "Wish economy", there would be no reason for everyone one of you to open every combat with a 9th level scroll, if I didn't house rule the possibility away somehow. They cost less than 15,000 gp (except for things with massive gold and/or XP costs), so you could get as many as you want for free.

Now... Raise Dead is castable via a Wish...
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« Reply #573 on: February 26, 2010, 08:31:02 PM »
And if RJ dies, wouldn't that be a good excuse to introduce a mysterious benefactor? :P

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« Reply #574 on: February 28, 2010, 10:04:51 PM »
Ok, we're going with the boring plan, but mine was way more awesome.  :bigeye
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« Reply #575 on: February 28, 2010, 10:17:24 PM »
About all Marlowe can do at this point, unless the darkness is dispelled, is a) cast Mirror Image and act as a decoy (not a good plan with my Hit Dice :P ) and b) wait to stabilize RJ with his Healing Belt.  :(

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« Reply #576 on: March 01, 2010, 12:59:40 AM »
Raoul and Xuuvosic didn't know each other before the game started... So... what about those wood nymphs? :P
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #577 on: March 01, 2010, 05:12:33 AM »
Its a time travel campaign, having just met is a technicality.  :D But seriously, there are no nymphs, just laying it on thick for tree guy.

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« Reply #578 on: March 01, 2010, 11:59:41 AM »
Its a time travel campaign, having just met is a technicality.  :D But seriously, there are no nymphs, just laying it on thick for tree guy.
Ok. I thought that might be the case. I just failed my Sense Motive check. :P

So we're all set? Kuro is casting Fly on Xuuvosic, and then jumping into the pit? Cade will have to move out and back in first since he blocks up the whole entrance, but that's not a problem. And then Xuuvosic is readying an action to Teleport and taunting the tree-guy, right?
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« Reply #579 on: March 01, 2010, 12:36:52 PM »
That's the gist of it, yeah.
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