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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #540 on: February 25, 2010, 06:07:07 PM »
That implies keeping him alive and captured so we can torture it out of him.
Sounds good to me.

Maybe we could cut his 'ears' out and use them as a basis for a custom graft.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #541 on: February 25, 2010, 06:09:16 PM »
We MIGHT have some trouble if it's in his brain or soul instead.
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« Reply #542 on: February 25, 2010, 06:12:15 PM »
We MIGHT have some trouble if it's in his brain or soul instead.

Maybe. But the description PXY gave has some kind of mini-twigs sticking out of his ears, so I presume that that would be the source of his "audiovision".
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #543 on: February 25, 2010, 06:20:14 PM »
I think maybe you guys should be more worried about not dying. But maybe that's just me. ;)

I'll post his stat block if/when you guys defeat him, of course. Or maybe even if you just run from him, as I doubt you'll be facing him again...
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #544 on: February 25, 2010, 06:24:09 PM »
You only run when you don't have a mobile battery.  :D
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #545 on: February 25, 2010, 06:29:47 PM »
You only run when you don't have a mobile battery.  :D
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #546 on: February 25, 2010, 08:01:44 PM »
My main problem remains. I can't get RJ out of the frying pan without getting caught in the fire. I need a distraction.

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #547 on: February 25, 2010, 08:06:49 PM »
Yeah? And I need a fly speed, and about 200 more feet of movement speed. :P

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #548 on: February 25, 2010, 08:29:17 PM »
Said I needed a distraction. Never specified what for.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #549 on: February 25, 2010, 09:15:59 PM »
Hmm. I think I'd need to be able to know what square this guy is in before studying him for a death attack. Or more probably, be able to see him. Guided Shot could take care of the concealment problems, though.

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #550 on: February 25, 2010, 09:38:06 PM »
Last I checked he wasn't invisible to boot, was he? Or am I trippin'?
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #551 on: February 25, 2010, 11:07:39 PM »
Last I checked he wasn't invisible to boot, was he? Or am I trippin'?
He is inside a magical cloud of Darkness (3.0 style, so you can't see through it at all), and inside of some kind of whirlwind that is so violent that you have to make a DC 21 Fortitude save to even approach him. And of course he's inside a Solid Fog and Evard's Black Tentacles, also.

Which reminds me... Ris-Janna should have been ejected out to 20 feet away from him when she went unconscious I think... but how does the Solid Fog interact with that? :P

Hmm... just noticed this:
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However, unlike normal fog, only a severe wind (31+ mph) disperses these vapors, and it does so in 1 round.

So the Solid Fog is gone, actually. And Ris-Janna is kicked outside the area of the Darkness spell. She's still 300 feet up, though, and hovering.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #552 on: February 26, 2010, 12:11:30 AM »
Good, that's one less problem.

And with some judicious application of the proper amount of force, I have the solution for the rest of 'em. Just like that.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #553 on: February 26, 2010, 07:49:28 AM »
So what do you have in mind? Unless there are further complications, X can get everyone out on his next round with minimal further danger. This round X is trying to draw treebeard's fire with a readied action to port away. Next round he'd pop back mid-air by RJ, have Cade grab her, then port away again. But if Raoul can get her clear before then, that would, of course, be better. But it might be a good idea to go over alternate plans OOC, to make sure they have a reasonable chance of working.

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« Reply #554 on: February 26, 2010, 09:00:11 AM »
I just realized that Cade in Gargantuan mode bypasses the majority of the problems we would otherwise have, including visibility.

Rule 11: everything is air-droppable at least once.

Here's how it works: Treebeard is 300 feet up in the air. Given that on the first round Cade would drop 150 feet, and on the next 300, my plan is to DD him up 120 feet above the guy, move up to RJ while he grapples in freefall, then on the next round, use Tactical Teleportation to bring people to ground level, whereupon X could extract us.

If I had used 3rd-level slots to fuel that Evard's, I could use Tactical Teleportation then regular Teleport instead, but now the damage is done.

EDIT: Notes on why he bypasses most problems:

At Gargantuan size, there's a good chance the vicious winds won't even affect him. Most spells that deal with massive winds spinning about have rules dealing with creature size (i.e., "at this size creatures are unaffected").
He'll also be too big for the tentacles to grapple. (Gargantuan is EXACTLY two size categories above Large.)
He stands the best chance of grappling the big dude. Even taking into account the darkness, he has the highest hit ratio here.

As long as I make sure he doesn't drop all the way (which would make a satisfying 'splat' sound as far as our enemy is concerned, but it could do so for Cade as well) he should be in the clear. Since Phaedrus ruled that kinetic energy isn't conserved after teleportation, Tactical Teleportation provides us with a nice air-dropping recovery mechanism.

In the words of Agita's sig, it's all about reality and making the world conform to that reality...

...by dropping a fucking house on it.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2010, 09:24:05 AM by Kuroimaken »
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #555 on: February 26, 2010, 12:08:21 PM »
So let me make sure I got this straight: You plan to Dimension Door Cade above the tree-dude, whereupon he will fall and grapple the tree-dude as he goes by. They'll both fall nearly to ground level, then you'll use Tactical Teleportation to make sure Cade doesn't splat.

Isn't this going to leave the tree-dude near the ground (and rest of the party), ungrappled? Although I guess you will Teleport everyone else away with Cade, right? How many targets can that affect? And what's the range on it? (I don't have CMage on hand.) And depending on the timing, the tree-dude may get to take a shot at you guys as he falls (or at least Cade, but he's resistant to the electrical attacks).

And how is this getting Ris-Janna to the ground safely? Isn't she still going to be floating 300 feet high in the air? Are you going to deal with that the next round? Or with someone else's actions (Xuuvosic's?)?


And using Dimension Door isn't actually going to work, as Cade is currently too big.

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« Reply #556 on: February 26, 2010, 12:19:38 PM »
Whether we leave the tree dude ungrappled or not doesn't seem to matter. He fried RJ AFTER he got tentacle'd.

Going over the plan again, I feel like the best alternative is to have X Teleport with Cade above treeguy (since his Teleport is usable at-will), then I'll handle recovering Cade and RJ to safe "space" via Tactical teleportation, whereupon X teleports us all away to safety.

It's going to be tight, but it CAN be pulled off.

The problem with Tactical Teleportation is that it only works for me to rearrange people in Close Range (namely: 45 feet). What we need to do is rearrange our initiatives so that the order goes: me, X and Cade. Since people only fall on their own initiative, on the "first" round (the one we execute Operation Branchsplatter on) we'll have X teleport himself and Cade 120 feet above the tree guy (Raoul will DD "close" to RJ). On round two, Raoul Tactical Teleports everyone into range, and X teleports us all away (in this particular case, his quick descent is actually an advantage: in the time it'd take for us to buff up so we could have aerial superiority, RJ would probably die).

I'm counting on Cade's gargantuan size so that Line of Sight isn't a problem (most of his body will likely remain outside the darkness area, with X riding on his back).

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« Last Edit: February 26, 2010, 12:26:30 PM by Kuroimaken »
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #557 on: February 26, 2010, 12:55:24 PM »
As previously stated, X's teleportation is self-only.

He can however teleport other people around if they get inside the Enveloping Pit, and then he picks it up and teleports with it, as it counts as an object.

That was the whole purpose of him teleporting away and getting the rug. He plans to place the pit on the rug and open it, and then teleport around holding the rug so that he can keep the pit open in mid-air.

With Cade's reach, he could reach out of the pit and grab Ris-Janna and pull her back into it from quite a distance away. So he actually doesn't even need to get out of the pit himself.

The main problems with X's plan (outlined above) are: 1) He can't fly, and 2) the tree-dude could potentially nuke him during all of this.
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« Reply #558 on: February 26, 2010, 01:13:59 PM »
Then we'll just have to make sure landing into the pit is safe.

Don't suppose I could cast Fly on the rug to make it an improptu magic carpet?

Hey, click!

Similar outline. X teleports up above RJ, Raoul awaits near ground level with the pit open. (If X teleports right above RJ, he can actually pick her up and get out of blasting range via dropping before tree dude can do anything.) Raoul would then ready an action to use Tactical Teleportation (potentially from within the pit) so that Xuuvosic can teleport as soon as their positions are rearranged.

This is the best scenario I can see to avoid the nuking issue, and flying becomes a non-issue thanks to stopping momentum via teleportation. Like I said, vying for aerial superiority would likely waste time we don't have (and with a Listen check that high, our barky friend can probably tell RJ's not dead yet).
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #559 on: February 26, 2010, 01:32:43 PM »
That plan might work, but there are a couple of hitches that I can think of.

1) As I mentioned before, you can't cast spells from inside the pit and affect things on the outside (and vice-versa). However, you could hover so that your torso is sticking out, for example, and then drop into it after you cast.

2) Ris-Janna is under the effects of a fly spell. So once Xuuvosic grabs onto her, she's going to keep him aloft like a life preserver. They'd probably start "falling" slowly, since she isn't directing the spell consciously, but they're not going to plummet, unless he puts her above her maximum carrying load.


No to casting Fly on the rug, as it isn't a creature. Fly targets a creature not an object. You do notice that the rug is very finely crafted though, and has a mural on it that looks like clouds above a desert.
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