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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #260 on: January 15, 2010, 03:34:24 PM »
Technically, what the SRD says is "A typical Large character wielding a reach weapon of the appropriate size can attack a creature 15 or 20 feet away, but not adjacent creatures or creatures up to 10 feet away." The Guisarme in this case would reach Cade before the weapon hit the targeted square. I would think that technically the targeted square is "blocked" by the same creature being attacked, especially since the barghest has no particular size advantage as would be assumed by a large creature that has natural reach attacking a creature behind a creature that is adjacent to it. If that makes sense.

Is there any elaboration in the RC? You're the DM though, I guess it's your call. If that's how things are gonna work, then maybe Cade needs to get a reach weapon. :P

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #261 on: January 15, 2010, 03:43:11 PM »
Overlooked your stance in the game thread. Edited a bit. You're up, if you want to trip the barghest or whatever as a counter attack from your stance (it would probably be a good idea :P ). You have two attacks of opportunity per round, according to the Tome rules. (Equal to your number of attacks from BAB, basically, not including TWF or other feats).

We'll go with this as is for now. I would absolutely get a reach weapon if I were you... Monks with reach weapons were some of my favorite characters that I've played. You can stab them if they're far away, or kick them if they're adjacent. :D
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #262 on: January 15, 2010, 03:46:23 PM »
Yeah, I've got a total of 4 then? Duly noted. Am I able to attack through the cloaker, rather, despite the cloaker engulfing me? I'm not sure how it works.

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I mean, I suppose so, since as a monk every part of my body is a dangerous weapon. :P

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Also since he's holding a guisarme, I assume he's in Goblin form?
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #263 on: January 15, 2010, 03:50:09 PM »
Yeah, I've got a total of 4 then? Duly noted. Am I able to attack through the cloaker, rather, despite the cloaker engulfing me? I'm not sure how it works.
I edited. The cloaker can't engulf you. You're too big. :P

Cade seems like a damn tough tank, though. So I don't think he needs it. I was a bit worried when I first rolled the attacks and damage, but then after I remembered your stance, I think you'll be ok. :P


Edit: Also, I didn't forget about the Rings of Darkhidden. There is in fact light in the village, from the fires set by Raoul's blast and also a couple of cookfires that they had going already (which probably smell delicious to you guys... since they're roasting human flesh... :P ). So they don't need to rely on darkvision to see you guys.


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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #264 on: January 15, 2010, 04:02:23 PM »
Yeah, I've got a total of 4 then? Duly noted. Am I able to attack through the cloaker, rather, despite the cloaker engulfing me? I'm not sure how it works.
I edited. The cloaker can't engulf you. You're too big. :P

Cade seems like a damn tough tank, though. So I don't think he needs it. I was a bit worried when I first rolled the attacks and damage, but then after I remembered your stance, I think you'll be ok. :P


Edit: Also, I didn't forget about the Rings of Darkhidden. There is in fact light in the village, from the fires set by Raoul's blast and also a couple of cookfires that they had going already. So they don't need to rely on darkvision to see you guys.

Also not sure, do size modifiers still affect trip/grapple attacks? There's no mention of this under the special attack entries for them, but otherwise it takes a good bit of advantage away for larger size creatures.

nm, read your post about the worg's trip attack.

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #265 on: January 15, 2010, 04:03:44 PM »
Incidentally, since last I checked the whole number of us equaled less than 14, and double the effect would probably also add twice the targets, isn't it easier to consider everyone enlarged?  :D
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #266 on: January 15, 2010, 04:05:34 PM »
So I'm not really sure how the cloaker's engulf works right now. Can the cloaker just let her out, or does she have to wait until it's taken its turn if she doesn't want to spend an attack getting out of the grapple?
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #267 on: January 15, 2010, 04:12:55 PM »
So I'm not really sure how the cloaker's engulf works right now. Can the cloaker just let her out, or does she have to wait until it's taken its turn if she doesn't want to spend an attack getting out of the grapple?

Damn you, HeadofVecna! your minions are simultaneously life-saving as well as irritatingly confusing! :P

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« Reply #268 on: January 15, 2010, 04:14:27 PM »
Incidentally, since last I checked the whole number of us equaled less than 14, and double the effect would probably also add twice the targets, isn't it easier to consider everyone enlarged?  :D
The area is only 30 feet (basically). So Marlowe is too far away, and RJ didn't want it. Hmm... double number of targets, eh? Yeah... to keep it simple, lets say that it does double area, number of targets, everything numerical. If a spell doesn't have anything at all to double, it increases the save DC by +2 as if heightened.

With an effective 60 foot radius, you could place it so it would also hit Marlowe, I think (I'm not sure exactly where he is... You guys should place your characters, not wait for me to do it. :P )


So I'm not really sure how the cloaker's engulf works right now. Can the cloaker just let her out, or does she have to wait until it's taken its turn if she doesn't want to spend an attack getting out of the grapple?
Yeah... we're going to have to figure out how this works... We're not using it exactly as it is supposed to work, of course. Technically, it says half the damage you deal to the cloaker goes to the creature engulfed. It doesn't say this goes the other way, though, which is what we're doing. Although... it is so cool, I'm going to allow it anyway. :P

For one, you'd lose your Dex bonus to AC for one, because you're grappling. You'd also not be able to make Attacks of Opportunity, as you don't threaten. I also think it would take an attack to get out of the grapple, but the cloaker can choose not to resist you. I'll also let you use one of your lower BAB iteratives (if you have them), even if it is your first attack for the round. I don't really see why they have to be taken in order, anyway...
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #269 on: January 15, 2010, 04:28:06 PM »
Cade is in murder-mode right now.

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'Yarva Demonicus Etrigan.
Change, change the form of man.
Free the prince forever damned.
Free the might from fleshy mire.
Boil the blood in heart of fire.
Gone, gone the form of man,
Rise the demon, Etrigan!'

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« Reply #270 on: January 15, 2010, 04:35:41 PM »
Nice. :D I'd never heard that before. Very cool.

And... it's actually Cade's turn now... My poor, poor barghest.  :lol
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« Reply #271 on: January 15, 2010, 04:37:27 PM »
I think everyone in this group is just a little psychotic. Except X, who's a foulmouthed pothead, but probably still the sanest of the troupe.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #272 on: January 15, 2010, 04:40:37 PM »
I'd be more scared if he did something like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksUf7Wiz5ww&feature=related

EDIT: Raoul's psychotic? How do you figure?
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #273 on: January 15, 2010, 04:44:12 PM »
Wow... nice.  :bigeye Yeah, he's tripped, and all of his attacks miss. Holy crap dude.. and I was worried about you. :D

You could actually try disarming him with your other Attacks of Opportunity, if you want... Jeez... why am I offering advice? :P

Edit: Your trip mod is actually 32... you forgot Juggernaut. You count as Colossal right now...
Actually, the Special Attack size modifier for Colossal is 16 according to the SRD and I already took that into account:
BAB 7 + Str mod 9 - size 4 + Special Size 16 = 28

also, AoO's, I believe, are still limited to one per opponent per round, even if you can take multiple in a round. Still, doesn't mean I can't disarm him with one of my attacks. :P

The barghest can't supress a look of shock as it's feet are ripped from under it, and it tumbles to the ground. It's eyes glow briefly in anger, and it flails wildly, but can't penetrate the gigantic monk's defenses.

The worg behind it whines pitifully and you smell the scent of dog hair and urine.

Nice. :D

Remember though that I won't be Gargantuan every combat, so my modifiers won't always be this awesome. I can't take Huge Size until 9th level, and even then there are way too many good feats to choose from. Not sure if I ought to take that one immediately or hold off, or if I even ought to take it at all. I wish it didn't take a standard action to switch Harmless form to normal; if it didn't, it'd be no question about taking it. :D


Nice. :D I'd never heard that before. Very cool.

And... it's actually Cade's turn now... My poor, poor barghest.  :lol

It's from DC comics. A character is bound to this demon and switches bodies with him by reciting variations on the full poem I mentioned above. Sorry, you can't avoid our geeky references forever. :D

I think everyone in this group is just a little psychotic. Except X, who's a foulmouthed pothead, but probably still the sanest of the troupe.
Cade is usually quite sane, but being the character closest to being an actual demon, Cade can't help but have his chaotic outbursts from time to time, as much as he tries to restrain himself.  ;)

I'd be more scared if he did something like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksUf7Wiz5ww&feature=related

EDIT: Raoul's psychotic? How do you figure?
Being that Cade's a martial artist, that seems surprisingly appropriate. :)

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« Reply #274 on: January 15, 2010, 04:46:07 PM »
Well, yeah, that's what I was aiming for.

You got a long ways to go yet, though. You can't make people blow up from the inside out yet after all.  :p
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« Reply #275 on: January 15, 2010, 04:50:32 PM »
Well, yeah, that's what I was aiming for.

You got a long ways to go yet, though. You can't make people blow up from the inside out yet after all.  :p

Oh? We'll see about that. ;)

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« Reply #276 on: January 15, 2010, 04:51:01 PM »
Actually, the Special Attack size modifier for Colossal is 16 according to the SRD and I already took that into account:
BAB 7 + Str mod 9 - size 4 + Special Size 16 = 28
You don't take a -4 from size. This isn't an attack roll.

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also, AoO's, I believe, are still limited to one per opponent per round, even if you can take multiple in a round. Still, doesn't mean I can't disarm him with one of my attacks. :P
No, they're limited to one Attack per Opportunity (so even if a guy moves 30 feet, you only get one AoO for that on him, even if you were threatening him the whole time). If he does something else to draw another AoO, you get another one.
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It's from DC comics. A character is bound to this demon and switches bodies with him by reciting variations on the full poem I mentioned above. Sorry, you can't avoid our geeky references forever. :D
I googled it before replying. :D

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Cade is usually quite sane, but being the character closest to being an actual demon, Cade can't help but have his chaotic outbursts from time to time, as much as he tries to restrain himself.  ;)
Like half the party are actual demons. :P I know what you mean, though. You're the one with a True Fiend level. But flavor-wise, everyone but Marlowe and Sejanus are demons in this party, and I think everyone but Marlowe is an immortal.



And could you explain Cade's AC for me please? Here is what I get including the stance:

AC 30 (10+4 dodge +4 wis +10 armor -3 size +2 shield +2 natural)
(your clothes are enchanted as magic armor, right? With the scaling enhancement bonus, that's +3 on top of his 7 from monk)

What am I missing? And what is the natural armor bonus from?
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« Reply #277 on: January 15, 2010, 04:57:41 PM »
Like half the party are actual demons. :P I know what you mean, though. You're the one with a True Fiend level. But flavor-wise, everyone but Marlowe and Sejanus are demons in this party, and I think everyone but Marlowe is an immortal.
Well, RJ isn't technically immortal either.

EDIT: Speaking of Janna, I think it's her turn now since she delayed, no? :D
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« Reply #278 on: January 15, 2010, 05:05:20 PM »
Like half the party are actual demons. :P I know what you mean, though. You're the one with a True Fiend level. But flavor-wise, everyone but Marlowe and Sejanus are demons in this party, and I think everyone but Marlowe is an immortal.
Well, RJ isn't technically immortal either.

EDIT: Speaking of Janna, I think it's her turn now since she delayed, no? :D
Oh yeah, that's right. Then Cade.

Ok... a couple other errors I noticed on Cade's sheet: his resistance bonus to saves should be +3, since the bonus on scaling items rounds up. The same goes for his +str item, and his necklace of natural attacks.

He has a +10 armor bonus that also applies to touch attacks (+7 from monk, +3 enhancement from clothes that stacks onto it).
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #279 on: January 15, 2010, 05:17:12 PM »
And could you explain Cade's AC for me please? Here is what I get including the stance:

AC 30 (10+4 dodge +4 wis +10 armor -3 size +2 shield +2 natural)
(your clothes are enchanted as magic armor, right? With the scaling enhancement bonus, that's +3 on top of his 7 from monk)

What am I missing? And what is the natural armor bonus from?

Actually, you added the dodge bonus one time too much in the combat thread.
Also, I guess I forgot about my armor (thanks, haha- That's +2 magic clothes and, from what you said before, +3 enhancement to that? 1/3 level Rounding up?)

10 + 2 shield - 4 size + 4 wis + 2 armor + 2 natural + 10 Armored in Life (normal plus enh. from armor, according to the class ability) +4 dodge = 30

The Natural armor is from my increase in size, according to the SRD. +8 str -2 dex +4 con +2 NA -1 att.
Like half the party are actual demons. :P I know what you mean, though. You're the one with a True Fiend level. But flavor-wise, everyone but Marlowe and Sejanus are demons in this party, and I think everyone but Marlowe is an immortal.
Well, RJ isn't technically immortal either.

EDIT: Speaking of Janna, I think it's her turn now since she delayed, no? :D
Oh yeah, that's right. Then Cade.

Ok... a couple other errors I noticed on Cade's sheet: his resistance bonus to saves should be +3, since the bonus on scaling items rounds up. The same goes for his +str item, and his necklace of natural attacks.

He has a +10 armor bonus that also applies to touch attacks (+7 from monk, +3 enhancement from clothes that stacks onto it).

Ah, I see. That's why I didn't include the armor before. I only put it in misc so that it would apply to Touch attacks. I'll make the requisite changes now before I forget.