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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #220 on: January 13, 2010, 08:01:58 PM »
Yeah... they should have 'splained that shit a bit better.  :lol

Ok... we need to come up with some reasonable limitations on distances, otherwise you can take Leadership and use this on followers you leave back at your basecamp on the Moon, or the Elemental Plane of Earth, or whatever. So how about we say it has a range of Long (400 + 40/lvl)? I guess you can just say who you want to take the damage, and as long as they're in range, they will. We'll not require line of sight or effect, since you guys are all sneaky as hell, and I'm feeling nice. ;) So yeah, you can tag some invisible partymate with Con damage, I guess, due to the poor wording on this feat. :P

Sound reasonable? I might not be on here for a bit. Going home to eat dinner and all that. You guys go ahead and let me know what you're doing, if you haven't. I get that HoV's guys are going to start hitting people, Marlowe is delaying to see what Raoul does, and Raoul is delaying till the Barghest is visible. I think Cade was holding too, but I'm not sure. I don't know what RJ and Xuusovic himself are doing, that I remember.
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« Reply #221 on: January 13, 2010, 08:10:59 PM »
RJ will be ready to frag the gobbo on the worg (that one's visible, right?) if they try to go away. Is there nay place in the goblin camp she could DimDoor to from where she could hide and hit the rider and mount with a full attack? I want to try that shiny homebrewed special use of IUS. :D
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #222 on: January 13, 2010, 08:16:30 PM »
Yeah... they should have 'splained that shit a bit better.  :lol

Ok... we need to come up with some reasonable limitations on distances, otherwise you can take Leadership and use this on followers you leave back at your basecamp on the Moon, or the Elemental Plane of Earth, or whatever. So how about we say it has a range of Long (400 + 40/lvl)? I guess you can just say who you want to take the damage, and as long as they're in range, they will. We'll not require line of sight or effect, since you guys are all sneaky as hell, and I'm feeling nice. ;) So yeah, you can tag some invisible partymate with Con damage, I guess, due to the poor wording on this feat. :P

Sound reasonable? I might not be on here for a bit. Going home to eat dinner and all that. You guys go ahead and let me know what you're doing, if you haven't. I get that HoV's guys are going to start hitting people, Marlowe is delaying to see what Raoul does, and Raoul is delaying till the Barghest is visible. I think Cade was holding too, but I'm not sure. I don't know what RJ and Xuusovic himself are doing, that I remember.

That sounds okay by me.  :)
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #223 on: January 13, 2010, 08:32:04 PM »
Cade is probably at the NW corner of that village, waiting to hear word to attack. If you want, you can target Cade for the con damage.

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #224 on: January 14, 2010, 05:21:37 PM »
So, I just noticed that Mighty Wallop technically needs to target a melee weapon, ie: it may not technically work with Cade's slam attack if it doesn't count as such. It's technically a 'natural weapon' and the spell doesn't specify manufactured, but it heavily implies it. Thoughts?

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« Reply #225 on: January 14, 2010, 05:28:14 PM »
So, I just noticed that Mighty Wallop technically needs to target a melee weapon, ie: it may not technically work with Cade's slam attack if it doesn't count as such. It's technically a 'natural weapon' and the spell doesn't specify manufactured, but it heavily implies it. Thoughts?
The normal monk's weapon has the clause about counting as both manufactured and natural, so we'll go with that, even if it isn't outright stated.
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« Reply #226 on: January 14, 2010, 05:41:47 PM »
Raoul has Dispel Magic on his list, yes? Sounds like a good time to use it. :) I can't get my SA damage on an invisible opponent, and I'm pretty sure they'd become a good bit less dangerous if they're without their buffs. No matter what, the barghest goes down first, as it seems to be the resident caster. Sound good?
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #227 on: January 14, 2010, 05:52:58 PM »
Well, they all look bigger and stronger than you'd expect, that's for sure. They weren't just sitting around while you guys chatted them up and massacred their allies. :P Use your actions as you want, though.  :D



Also, was that arrow poisoned, HoV? Just in case, here's a Fort save: 1d20+16=24
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #228 on: January 14, 2010, 06:09:33 PM »
Well, lucky for us they're only under the effects of enlarge person and not getting straight-up larger size, or they'd be waaaaay more dangerous. Still, all those buffs are pretty scary. They might as well be classified as a swarm.  :lmao

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« Reply #229 on: January 14, 2010, 06:20:51 PM »
Well, lucky for us they're only under the effects of enlarge person and not getting straight-up larger size, or they'd be waaaaay more dangerous. Still, all those buffs are pretty scary. They might as well be classified as a swarm.  :lmao
I'll level with you. It's only 2 buffs. Enlarge + Bull's Strength. They were also invisible, but that's gone for all but the barghest. Those two buffs + inspire courage and a few strong team fighting feats makes a biiiig difference in how dangerous a few low level warriors are. Of course, without the bards they'd have all wandered off trying to find the harpy as soon as they came out of the pit, with their pitiful Will saves. :P

I had both bards use Countersong before they came out of the pit. I am going to say that no effects cross the pit opening, as with a Rope Trick. That's the reason the Psurlon didn't see these guys initially with its radar, and why they could get their bards running Countersong before they were all enthralled by the harpy, which they still barely countered.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #230 on: January 14, 2010, 06:22:57 PM »
Am I correct in assuming that the single R on the map means Raoul? In that case, where's RJ right now? The upper two maps look unupdated.
EDIT: Please, please exclude RJ from that MEP. She actually gets worse when she's bigger. (In the bad way.) :P
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« Reply #231 on: January 14, 2010, 06:30:29 PM »
Am I correct in assuming that the single R on the map means Raoul? In that case, where's RJ right now? The upper two maps look unupdated.
I don't know. Where is she? :P Yeah, that is Raoul. I don't think you told me an exact square you wanted her to be in, but I know she was like right at the edge of the village, or something.
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« Reply #232 on: January 14, 2010, 06:32:55 PM »
Updated with my action. I gave up targetting the barghest with a suggestion because A) his allies could get wise to it quickly and work on a way to cancel it and B) I fully expect it to beat a hasty retreat as soon as it's done showcasing what big mofos they are.

So plan B it is - slaughter them and keep the barghest alive as a pet.

Incidentally, that was Mass Enlarge Person. Two can play this game, motherfucker.  :D

Am I correct in assuming that the single R on the map means Raoul? In that case, where's RJ right now? The upper two maps look unupdated.
EDIT: Please, please exclude RJ from that MEP. She actually gets worse when she's bigger. (In the bad way.) :P

EDIT: WAY ahead of you.

EDIT2: It's Japanese time again, if Prime wants in.
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« Reply #233 on: January 14, 2010, 06:52:07 PM »
Am I correct in assuming that the single R on the map means Raoul? In that case, where's RJ right now? The upper two maps look unupdated.
I don't know. Where is she? :P Yeah, that is Raoul. I don't think you told me an exact square you wanted her to be in, but I know she was like right at the edge of the village, or something.
Yeah, unlike the others, she didn't get a Haste effect, so she'd probably be at the left edge of the village, in a place where she can hide. So somewhere in row 15, behind that fence thing.

...actually, I'm not sure if staying hidden is worth the trouble. The only advantage I get from it is that the Barghest may or may not be flat-footed (he probably won't be). If he is, it's a pretty significant damage boost, but not a deal breaker. I have other damage boosts. :smirk So maybe I should just double-move up to it to flank and hope it'll reveal itself by attacking and nobody will hit Janna. Would fuck with the line I want to deliver, though. :D
Still, getting a Burning Blade-buffed full attack off on a flat-footed sucker would be really cool. Just you wait 'till I'm 11th level. :P

@ Barghest as pet: So we do nonlethal damage to it? :P

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"Bluer than the night sky, stronger than the Heaven King (king of heaven/God?). [not sure, something with warriors] Turn my allies' strategy(? don't think so) strong! Full power! Madman killing blade!"

Quick translation, mostly without translatortron, plus it's late. :D Not sure how I should translate 'mono' - it's basically either 'thing or 'person', but either seems weird in English. Dunno what For bonus points, kyoujin apparently has at least three different translations depending on the kanji you used, each of which seems equally plausible at a glance. [/spoiler]
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #234 on: January 14, 2010, 06:55:27 PM »
I'm not going with the stupid Rules Compendium ruling about defenders being flat-footed against invisible attackers. They're denied their Dex to AC, but not flat-footed. It is a subtle, but significant, difference. So you'd be able to get sneak attack on him, but not Iaijutsu Focus, for example.

Move to where ever you want. Just let me (and everyone else) know. ;)

Also, good luck getting the barghest as a pet. I'm here to challenge you fuckers, not give you new pets. You've got enough damned pets already!  :P
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #235 on: January 14, 2010, 07:00:25 PM »
Well, lucky for us they're only under the effects of enlarge person and not getting straight-up larger size, or they'd be waaaaay more dangerous. Still, all those buffs are pretty scary. They might as well be classified as a swarm.  :lmao
I'll level with you. It's only 2 buffs. Enlarge + Bull's Strength. They were also invisible, but that's gone for all but the barghest. Those two buffs + inspire courage and a few strong team fighting feats makes a biiiig difference in how dangerous a few low level warriors are. Of course, without the bards they'd have all wandered off trying to find the harpy as soon as they came out of the pit, with their pitiful Will saves. :P

I had both bards use Countersong before they came out of the pit. I am going to say that no effects cross the pit opening, as with a Rope Trick. That's the reason the Psurlon didn't see these guys initially with its radar, and why they could get their bards running Countersong before they were all enthralled by the harpy, which they still barely countered.
Not to mention, a lot of guys versus one guy is usually a pretty bad deal for the one guy anyway. :D

Also, I've got no idea on what the were-tiger's stats were anyway.

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« Reply #236 on: January 14, 2010, 07:01:09 PM »
Am I correct in assuming that the single R on the map means Raoul? In that case, where's RJ right now? The upper two maps look unupdated.
I don't know. Where is she? :P Yeah, that is Raoul. I don't think you told me an exact square you wanted her to be in, but I know she was like right at the edge of the village, or something.
Yeah, unlike the others, she didn't get a Haste effect, so she'd probably be at the left edge of the village, in a place where she can hide. So somewhere in row 15, behind that fence thing.

...actually, I'm not sure if staying hidden is worth the trouble. The only advantage I get from it is that the Barghest may or may not be flat-footed (he probably won't be). If he is, it's a pretty significant damage boost, but not a deal breaker. I have other damage boosts. :smirk So maybe I should just double-move up to it to flank and hope it'll reveal itself by attacking and nobody will hit Janna. Would fuck with the line I want to deliver, though. :D
Still, getting a Burning Blade-buffed full attack off on a flat-footed sucker would be really cool. Just you wait 'till I'm 11th level. :P

@ Barghest as pet: So we do nonlethal damage to it? :P

Japanese:
[spoiler]Let's see.
"Bluer than the night sky, stronger than the Heaven King (king of heaven/God?). [not sure, something with warriors] Turn my allies' strategy(? don't think so) strong! Full power! Madman killing blade!"

Quick translation, mostly without translatortron, plus it's late. :D Not sure how I should translate 'mono' - it's basically either 'thing or 'person', but either seems weird in English. Dunno what For bonus points, kyoujin apparently has at least three different translations depending on the kanji you used, each of which seems equally plausible at a glance. [/spoiler]
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You got plenty of it right. (Ten'ou is for Heaven King, a reference to the four "Heaven Kings" that guard the four cardinal points.) Let the cry of this jakusenshi (composed word: jaku + senshi - evil + chosen) pierce the heavens. Make my allies' battle power stronger! FULL POWER! GIANT SLAYING FIST!

Also, in this case, "mono" doesn't get translated. It's a subtle reference to Slayers. I was originally going to go with Tasogare yori kuraki mono/chi wo nagare yori akaki mono but that sounded like it should be saved for a REALLY big blast.[/spoiler]
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #237 on: January 14, 2010, 07:08:43 PM »
Updated my last in-game post to finish up my turn since I already committed to that stuff. That barghest is going to regret gloating. :D

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« Reply #238 on: January 14, 2010, 07:12:30 PM »
I'm not going with the stupid Rules Compendium ruling about defenders being flat-footed against invisible attackers. They're denied their Dex to AC, but not flat-footed. It is a subtle, but significant, difference. So you'd be able to get sneak attack on him, but not Iaijutsu Focus, for example.
I'm pretty sure the RC didn't change anything about defenders not being flat-footed vs. invisible attackers. The thing about 'may or may not be flat-footed' was because I wasn't sure if the barghest knows how many he is fighting exactly, and whether he is aware of Ris-Janna being around. From your post I assume that he is aware, and all sneaking up in the world won't help in getting me that +Dex damage. Fine with me, the time for subtlety is over.

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Move to where ever you want. Just let me (and everyone else) know.  ;)
Then I'll just say that she is at I15 so she can move adjacent to the barghest and attack (not the barghest - he's invisible, so she wouldn't get SA against him. Gonna spill some more dog bowels onto the ground). 'Kay? :D
EDIT: What's the empty square next to the worg?
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« Reply #239 on: January 14, 2010, 07:17:18 PM »
Also, I've got no idea on what the were-tiger's stats were anyway.
They were in HoV's character sheet. He had 50 hit points, AC 17 (15 from charging), and DR 10/silver. I thought he might actually survive due to the DR and the fact that I didn't get to activate the Dragonfire Inspiration bard, but they rolled pretty well. :P

So... now is a good time to re-evaluate my homebrew feats, since we've seen them in play. :D Here are the relevant ones that let these 3rd level fighters attack up to 4 times per round.

Fast as Lighting:
Requisites: Combat Experience class feature
Description: You can attack with blinding speed.
Benefits: As an immediate action, you can consume one of your daily uses of Combat Experience to perform a single attack at your highest attack bonus

Wolfpack Tactics [Combat]
Benefits: This combat feat scales with your base attack bonus.

    * BAB+0: If an ally is flanking an opponent you are in melee with, you are considered to be flanking that opponent also, and get all the normal benefits of flanking.
    * BAB+1: Once per round you make make an Attack of Opportunity on an opponent damaged by one of your allies.
    * BAB+6: If one of your allies is flanking an opponent, you are considered to be flanking that opponent also, even if you are using a ranged attack.
    * BAB +11: You may change your initiative order to act on the same initiative count as one of your allies. This free action must be taken after initiative checks are rolled, but before regular rounds begin. It lasts for the entire combat, or until you ready or delay your action, just as if you had initially rolled this initiative roll.
    * BAB +16: You may step in front of an attack directed at one of your allies that is within your reach as an immediate action. You take the damage from the attack instead of them, or if it is a non-damaging attack you are affected instead of them. Any resistances or immunities you have against the attack apply normally. This can work against rays, but not against area attacks.

Combat Alacrity!
You are able to use your combat training to attack multiple times, even while moving.
Prereq: Fighter level 1, Dex 13.
Benefit: Whenever using a standard action to make an attack, you can make two attacks instead. Those attacks follow normal rules just like they were made during full-attack action.


So they get two attacks with a standard action, then they all get an AoO if any of those hit, and then they can make another attack by burning an immediate action + one use of Combat Experience. Individually, these don't seem all that bad, but together obviously it is quite nasty, especially if you've got group buffs. Anyone think it is unfair (compared to the Tome rules, and other stuff we're using)? These guys are nasty if you jump into melee with them, but they go down pretty easy to area affects in general (unless protected somehow).
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