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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #200 on: January 11, 2010, 05:55:49 PM »
Started a thread to discuss houserules for the knowledge skills here. Feel free to chime in, as this will almost certainly affect you if you plan on using any of them. :P
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #201 on: January 11, 2010, 07:39:28 PM »
You mean besides the fact 95% of the group has them, right?
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #202 on: January 11, 2010, 07:45:09 PM »
You mean besides the fact 95% of the group has them, right?
Hence the tongue-sticking-out smiley. I think the current knowledge skill rules are dumb as hell, and I've proposed a fix for them there. I think it makes a lot more sense, shouldn't overly hurt anyone's character, and shouldn't be that complicated (it will work the same way for you guys, I'll just have to think a bit more about coming up with DCs). You'll also have a better idea about what kind of info you'll get from them, rather than it being up to my whim which bit of "useful info" I decide to give you...
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #203 on: January 12, 2010, 01:28:27 AM »
FYI: Those scaling magic item bonuses get rounded up, not down.  :D
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #204 on: January 12, 2010, 10:05:48 AM »
FYI: Those scaling magic item bonuses get rounded up, not down.  :D
They do? So a Level/3 item would give +3 to whatever starting at level 7? That seems a bit odd, as then we'd have, say, Gloves of Dex +7 at level 19-20...
Not going to complain, though. :D
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #205 on: January 12, 2010, 11:06:58 AM »
Wouldja be so kind as to look over my sheet and tell me what I'm missing?  :D
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #206 on: January 12, 2010, 11:10:33 AM »
Something that just occured to me.
I'll be speeding up advancement. You guys will probably level every 2 or 3 encounters, I guess, at least. I'm mostly going to just give you whatever XP I want to level you at a rate I'm comfortable with. :D
What does this mean for Ris-Janna, who's only 3k behind the rest of the party, but ECL 6 instead of 7? :D
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #207 on: January 12, 2010, 11:57:35 AM »
Something that just occured to me.
I'll be speeding up advancement. You guys will probably level every 2 or 3 encounters, I guess, at least. I'm mostly going to just give you whatever XP I want to level you at a rate I'm comfortable with. :D
What does this mean for Ris-Janna, who's only 3k behind the rest of the party, but ECL 6 instead of 7? :D
She'd be earning more XP than everyone else, so she'll catch up. I'm sure you wouldn't catch up this fast if I did the math, but you should also have already paid (most or all of) the LA off before the game started. So we'll say you are all even when you level up.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #208 on: January 12, 2010, 07:34:36 PM »
If you guys want to be jerks you could take the pit, conceal the goblins somehow and give it to the kobold with them still inside. ;)
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #209 on: January 12, 2010, 08:16:40 PM »
I don't think we want to touch anything kobold-related right now. Might attract the wrong attention. ;)

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #210 on: January 12, 2010, 08:39:24 PM »
I don't think we want to touch anything kobold-related right now. Might attract the wrong attention. ;)
Nah, Pun-Pun is oldschool. He doesn't look too kindly on all these new dragonwrought kobolds who want to actually get stuff from their race.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #211 on: January 13, 2010, 05:48:32 PM »
[spoiler](I presume I DO have line of effect if he can hear me).[/spoiler]
Not necessarily. If there was a short wall between you and him, that'd block LoE, but he could hear you around it.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #212 on: January 13, 2010, 06:09:52 PM »
Hmmm. The feat doesn't say anything about my allies needing to be within a specific distance (thus I assume no targetting on the backlash is involved). Seeing the barghest, on the other hand, poses a greater problem... but doesn't the description for Suggestion mention him needing to listen instead? I'm a little unsure as to whether I need line of sight for Suggestion to work (I presume I DO have line of effect if he can hear me).[/spoiler]
It's a targeted spell (target line is: one living creature). You have to actually see your target to use spells like this, generally.
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Target or Targets

Some spells have a target or targets. You cast these spells on creatures or objects, as defined by the spell itself. You must be able to see or touch the target, and you must specifically choose that target. You do not have to select your target until you finish casting the spell.
I would allow "see" to include blindsight, mindsight, etc, but you don't have any way to see him at all at the moment, AFAIK.

You could delay your action until he is visible, if you're think a fight is about to break out. Or you can do something else.

I think HoV's minions are about to start stabbing people anyway, as he'd told them to ready actions to do so if the pit was closed. I'd missed that, and it might change what you want to do (or not... do whatever you want).
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Sounds like the makings of a gay porn film.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #213 on: January 13, 2010, 06:18:00 PM »
Consider my action held, then. If the barghest is forced to act, his invisibility should be broken, so...
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #214 on: January 13, 2010, 06:27:25 PM »
Consider my action held, then. If the barghest is forced to act, his invisibility should be broken, so...
Ok, waiting for HoV to start rolling dice for his guys I guess, then. If the rest of you are going to start whomping people, you can go ahead and pick targets and start swinging also, if you want, or you can delay until you have visible targets, or whatever else you want.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #215 on: January 13, 2010, 06:52:20 PM »
Regardless, we're also sort of missing the true effect of the spell. You need to make what you're suggesting sound reasonable. All we did was repeat the existing offer and try to force him to come with us. If you suggested that it was in the barghest's best interest to take us there, or that taking us would result in some sort of reward instead of danger, or that the place he was taking us was just an empty, harmless cave, then it would be more reasonable than the standing demand.

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #216 on: January 13, 2010, 06:53:53 PM »
Venn:

You seem to be missing the part that makes it reasonable. He doesn't want to go there, and he's afraid of us. The idea is that if he does what we want, not only is he left unharmed, we make sure he's safely out of there by the time we leave.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #217 on: January 13, 2010, 07:16:06 PM »
That's fine, but you can't leave it up to interpretation otherwise the target of the spell (via the DM) might not be affected the way you want them to. If there's any cause for the barghest to think he'd still be in danger, especially given his past, it might still not seem reasonable. Still, I suppose it doesn't matter since you're holding back on your action anyway.

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #218 on: January 13, 2010, 07:43:24 PM »
That's fine, but you can't leave it up to interpretation otherwise the target of the spell (via the DM) might not be affected the way you want them to. If there's any cause for the barghest to think he'd still be in danger, especially given his past, it might still not seem reasonable. Still, I suppose it doesn't matter since you're holding back on your action anyway.
I don't think that's an unreasonable Suggestion. He's not asking him to commit suicide (for sure, anyway...). He's asking him to guide you, and telling him that he'll be released afterward. It could have probably been worded a bit more clearly (instead of stating for him to basically "obey"), but I'm not going to be an asshole DM and nitpick things like this (unless they're just too vague to really use, intentionally or otherwise). I understood the intent of his Suggestion, and that's good enough.


Hmmm. The feat doesn't say anything about my allies needing to be within a specific distance (thus I assume no targetting on the backlash is involved). Seeing the barghest, on the other hand, poses a greater problem... but doesn't the description for Suggestion mention him needing to listen instead? I'm a little unsure as to whether I need line of sight for Suggestion to work (I presume I DO have line of effect if he can hear me).
Well... I figured you'd have to have Line of Sight for this too, since it sounds like it is a targeted effect. Also, there has to be some kind of limit on the distance, otherwise you could be targeting "allies" on the other side of the planet with it... I'll have to look at the wording on it. I've never encountered this ability before, and didn't bother to go read up on it before the game. :P
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #219 on: January 13, 2010, 07:55:18 PM »
Here's the feat description, which I believe would help.
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