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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2009, 04:08:48 PM »
Ris-Janna, if she approaches to within 70 feet of the wall, can just make out that there are arrow slits along the wall about every 10 feet, and she can make out figures peering out of a couple of them. She feels that she should still be outside of their darkvision, though (if they have any).
Well, even if they have, they still wouldn't be able to see her thanks to her Ring of the Darkhidden. :D (Unless, of course, they also have See Invisibility or something.)
God... that's going to be a pain to remember. I should make some kind of note that I look at every time before I post that has this kind of stuff on it...
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2009, 04:18:54 PM »
Honestly I only took the ring because other people were. I usually don't even bother with it because it can be more of a hassle than it's worth.

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2009, 04:22:51 PM »
Random note: When I'm invisible, the target of my attacks loses his Dex bonus to AC. However, no Dex to AC != flat-footed, correct?
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2009, 04:27:18 PM »
Random note: When I'm invisible, the target of my attacks loses his Dex bonus to AC. However, no Dex to AC != flat-footed, correct?
I think the Rules Compendium actually said that people attacked by invisible/unseen attackers are flat-footed. I don't own it, though, and if you go by the core rules then yeah, they only lose their Dex mod to AC. Usually the distinction doesn't matter, unless someone is using Iaijutsu.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2009, 04:36:12 PM »
Random note: When I'm invisible, the target of my attacks loses his Dex bonus to AC. However, no Dex to AC != flat-footed, correct?
I think the Rules Compendium actually said that people attacked by invisible/unseen attackers are flat-footed. I don't own it, though, and if you go by the core rules then yeah, they only lose their Dex mod to AC. Usually the distinction doesn't matter, unless someone is using Iaijutsu.
Or Hit-and-Run Tactics (Fighter ACF, which Ris-Janna uses), which also specifically refers to flat-footed.
I have the Rules Compendium, and from a quick search I didn't see anything indicating that no Dex to AC = FF.

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2009, 04:37:57 PM »
Random note: When I'm invisible, the target of my attacks loses his Dex bonus to AC. However, no Dex to AC != flat-footed, correct?
I think the Rules Compendium actually said that people attacked by invisible/unseen attackers are flat-footed. I don't own it, though, and if you go by the core rules then yeah, they only lose their Dex mod to AC. Usually the distinction doesn't matter, unless someone is using Iaijutsu.
Or Hit-and-Run Tactics (Fighter ACF, which Ris-Janna uses), which also specifically refers to flat-footed.
I have the Rules Compendium, and from a quick search I didn't see anything indicating that no Dex to AC = FF.
No, it's not that general. It was specifically about invisible/unseen attackers.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2009, 04:39:30 PM »
The Rules Compendium concurs with Core. You're denied your bonus to AC, but are not flat-footed.

The distinction is also important in case you're attacking a rogue of at least level 4 via invisibility - he can still take sneak attack damage that way even if the attacker has no rogue levels whatsoever.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2009, 04:42:06 PM »
The Rules Compendium concurs with Core. You're denied your bonus to AC, but are not flat-footed.

The distinction is also important in case you're attacking a rogue of at least level 4 via invisibility - he can still take sneak attack damage that way even if the attacker has no rogue levels whatsoever.
No. That's not the way I read it. I don't think that's RAW or RAI.

The rogue with Uncanny Dodge is not denied his Dex to AC, even when flat-footed or struck by an invisible attacker. So another invisible rogue would not be able to sneak attack him. The relative levels of the two don't even come into it, in fact. The normal Uncanny Dodge has no clause about 4 levels higher.
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Sounds like the makings of a gay porn film.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2009, 04:43:42 PM »
For what it's wiorth, from RC on Invisibility:
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2009, 04:44:40 PM »
For what it's wiorth, from RC on Invisibility:
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I guess I misremembered, then.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2009, 05:56:03 PM »
"And that feeling, like a slug made outta ice-water is being poured into your brain, is Shlurshech. Whatever you think at him, it?, fuck I dunno, will be teeped to the rest of us. 'Fore too long we should let the cloaks and my other bitch give us a daily dose of their shit just to get immunized. But if y'all don't want to go through that shit right this sec, its cool. Any questions?"
"Why do you talk like a stereotypical black rapper?" :lol Now he just needs to call the male party members brotha or... that really rude word for black people.

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2009, 05:59:52 PM »
Thanks Agita. And yeah, I'm getting a kick out of HoV's trash talking gansta' demon. It took me a couple of reads to even understand what he was saying with some of it, lol.

Immunized! lol, great idea. Now might not be the best time to use it, though, as they're sure to hear that shit from the city. (Althought you might not care, and they might not do anything about it even if they did. :P ) We can say you guys did that earlier, if you want it to be part of a daily routine. That's what makes the most sense, I think, and you've been traveling together for four days. So you could have worked that out by now.

And I just realized how crazy it is going to be with you carting around a couple of harpies and a bunch of cloakers. My NPCs will have to roll like 8 freakin' will saves per round...  :banghead
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2009, 06:05:24 PM »
Can't they "turn it off", though?
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2009, 06:12:58 PM »
Thanks Agita. And yeah, I'm getting a kick out of HoV's trash talking gansta' demon. It took me a couple of reads to even understand what he was saying with some of it, lol.
Is it a bad thing that I understood most on the first read? :D

Smack me for being dense, what does he mean by immunizing? The only thing I can think of in gangsta context is syphilis. :lol
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2009, 06:26:25 PM »
Thanks Agita. And yeah, I'm getting a kick out of HoV's trash talking gansta' demon. It took me a couple of reads to even understand what he was saying with some of it, lol.
Is it a bad thing that I understood most on the first read? :D

Smack me for being dense, what does he mean by immunizing? The only thing I can think of in gangsta context is syphilis. :lol
He means he wants to expose you all to the moaning and singing attacks from his harpies and cloakers till you save against them all, and are thereby rendered immune for the rest of the day. Then he can feel free to PWN all my encounters with like 8 will-based crowd control attacks per round.  :flame :witsend :tantrum

Guess I'll have to break out the Radiant Servants of Pelor making a last stand against the encroaching darkness...  :flutter

Or whisper gnomes... Silence should protect against all of that crap, it looks like.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2009, 06:37:42 PM »
Thanks Agita. And yeah, I'm getting a kick out of HoV's trash talking gansta' demon. It took me a couple of reads to even understand what he was saying with some of it, lol.
Is it a bad thing that I understood most on the first read? :D

Smack me for being dense, what does he mean by immunizing? The only thing I can think of in gangsta context is syphilis. :lol
He means he wants to expose you all to the moaning and singing attacks from his harpies and cloakers till you save against them all, and are thereby rendered immune for the rest of the day. Then he can feel free to PWN all my encounters with like 8 will-based crowd control attacks per round.  :flame :witsend :tantrum

Guess I'll have to break out the Radiant Servants of Pelor making a last stand against the encroaching darkness...  :flutter

Or whisper gnomes... Silence should protect against all of that crap, it looks like.

Isn't the save DC on all those relatively low though? Sure, it's 8 rolls per NPC per round (that's a lotta rolling), but I wouldn't think it's impossible to beat.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2009, 06:40:43 PM »
Isn't the save DC on all those relatively low though? Sure, it's 8 rolls per NPC per round (that's a lotta rolling), but I wouldn't think it's impossible to beat.
We're talking about NPCs here. The BBEG might make them all, but his mooks almost certainly won't. And given enough rolling, anyone will roll a 1. It doesn't take long when its 8-10 saves per round...

We'll see how it goes. I was worried about some of the encounters I'd made being too tough. Now I'm worried they'll be a cakewalk.  :pout

Can I get basic stats for your minions, HoV?
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2009, 06:51:16 PM »
Thus is the fate of Save-or-Dies/Sucks. :D

Quick clarification:
The wall looks to be about 20 feet tall, and is just outside of the far edge of the shadowy illumination provided by the torches.
Does 'just outside' here mean that the wall is adjacent to the dim illumination, or there's a 5-ft. space in between?
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« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2009, 06:59:46 PM »
Thus is the fate of Save-or-Dies/Sucks. :D

Quick clarification:
The wall looks to be about 20 feet tall, and is just outside of the far edge of the shadowy illumination provided by the torches.
Does 'just outside' here mean that the wall is adjacent to the dim illumination, or there's a 5-ft. space in between?
Adjacent to, I guess... Why?
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2009, 07:02:56 PM »
Thus is the fate of Save-or-Dies/Sucks. :D

Quick clarification:
The wall looks to be about 20 feet tall, and is just outside of the far edge of the shadowy illumination provided by the torches.
Does 'just outside' here mean that the wall is adjacent to the dim illumination, or there's a 5-ft. space in between?
Adjacent to, I guess... Why?
Because I'm trying to think of a way for Miss 6 Cha to get into the city without having to go through a gate, talk to any guards, or Dim Door into an area she can't see where there are lots of solid objects to accidentally land in. :D Yay for self-imposed challenges.
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