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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #1040 on: July 20, 2010, 04:52:17 PM »
I was actually even considering a Spare Hand, but I got no infusions to put in it. In fact, I couldn't find many useful belts for my character.
You say that as if you'll ever need anything aside from a Belt of Battle. :D

So, if we wish to apply an item template (such as Feycraft) to an extant item, does the template's extra cost count towards the item's cost or is it considered a mundane cost?
Unless it is something radical, let's just consider it mundane. Also, make sure you look at my house rule about mithril weapons (they count as one size "lighter").
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #1041 on: July 20, 2010, 05:21:31 PM »
I think everything on your list will count as an attuned item except your sword, which doesn't have a continuous effect IIRC. So you'll have to decide how to combine those items into the 8 you want to keep attuned most of the time, and which ones will instead just be sitting around in your Enveloping Pit (or whatever) till you need them.
Crystal of Life Drinking, Greater
Corsair's eyepatch
Ring of Arming
Runestaff of Opening
Metamagic Rod, Chaining, Lesser
Metamagic Rod, Maximize, Lesser
Runestaff of size altering
Runestaff of the Assassin

Given my current (mis)understanding of the system I would have thought that the items above would not require attunement. Could I get a clarification?

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #1042 on: July 20, 2010, 05:59:54 PM »
I think everything on your list will count as an attuned item except your sword, which doesn't have a continuous effect IIRC. So you'll have to decide how to combine those items into the 8 you want to keep attuned most of the time, and which ones will instead just be sitting around in your Enveloping Pit (or whatever) till you need them.
Crystal of Life Drinking, Greater
Corsair's eyepatch
Ring of Arming
Runestaff of Opening
Metamagic Rod, Chaining, Lesser
Metamagic Rod, Maximize, Lesser
Runestaff of size altering
Runestaff of the Assassin

Given my current (mis)understanding of the system I would have thought that the items above would not require attunement. Could I get a clarification?
Well, the crystal wouldn't because I said specifically that they don't.

The runestaffs would, as I said earlier than staves and wands would count as an attuned item. At least I'm pretty sure I said that...

The MM Rods... hmm... I could see the argument for that, but mostly my definition of "Use Activated" was more literal. When you use the item, it does it's trick without any input from the wielder. If you stab someone with a flaming sword, they get burned. You have to "activate" the MM Rods, even if it doesn't take an action. So they're not exactly "use activated".

Same thing with most of the rest of it. The Corsair's Eyepatch is producing a spell effect that is "continuous", at least while activated. (And if it's not activated, then it isn't doing anything for you, so it's kind of a moot point.)

See my logic here? Sorry if that wasn't clear before.

So this category ("Use Activated") would really be limited to weapons, and things that just "go off" when used, like a Necklace of Fireballs, Bead of Force, etc.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #1043 on: July 20, 2010, 06:02:09 PM »
Whatever, I'm just not bothering with activation items aside from Anklet of Translocation. :P
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #1044 on: July 20, 2010, 07:08:56 PM »
I thought wands specifically did not count as attuned items, since they're technically "consumable" items. ??? @_@

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #1045 on: July 20, 2010, 08:43:51 PM »
I'm sorely tempted just to take Vow of Poverty. :P

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #1046 on: July 21, 2010, 06:41:39 PM »
I thought wands specifically did not count as attuned items, since they're technically "consumable" items. ??? @_@
From the house rules thread:
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For magic items and wealth, we're going to go with the 8 item limit that they talk about in the Book of Gears. You basically can only have 8 "constant effect" magic items at a time. Single use items like scrolls and potions don't count against this, and neither do "use activated" items (like magic weapons that only do damage, for example).
I meant for staves to count, actually, though maybe I didn't actually spell that out explicitly anywhere.

Since wands work almost identically to staves, I had planned to count them too. However, since everyone always uses Wands of Lesser Vigor to heal out of combat, and it wouldn't be too fun for one of you to have to keep one of those attuned, how about we say that wands don't count as an attuned item, but staves do?

Sorry for all the confusion, but we're working with a pretty extensive set of house rules here, and much of them I've had to make up on my own because Frank and K's stuff is pretty unfinished.

The main reason for disallowing casting from scrolls and having staves count as attuned items is to limit how many high level spells you guys can spam out from items, especially items you've gained via Wish. Since wands and potions are capped at 4th and 3rd level spells, respectively, they are less problematic than staves (and scrolls, if we hadn't already dealt with those by saying you cant cast from them). Without some kind of cap, every combat would constitute seeing who can whip out their scrolls of Timestop and Gate the fastest.

I'm sorely tempted just to take Vow of Poverty. :P
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #1047 on: July 21, 2010, 07:20:31 PM »
That coincides with my thoughts on the subject. Sounds good to me. :)

Most of the wands I've got are either for healing or are for fairly-situational utility uses.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #1048 on: July 21, 2010, 10:53:09 PM »
It wasn't clear to me at first, so let me restate to make sure I have it right. All magic items must be attuned unless they:
a) are single use
b) are spell-trigger of 4th level or less
c) do damage with no other magical effects

or arguably,
d) have only a single round (instantaneous?) effect

I'm thinking that the d) exception shouldn't exist, since it would allow abuse of things like 1/day re-roll items.

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #1049 on: July 21, 2010, 11:53:46 PM »
It wasn't clear to me at first, so let me restate to make sure I have it right. All magic items must be attuned unless they:
a) are single use
b) are spell-trigger of 4th level or less
c) do damage with no other magical effects

or arguably,
d) have only a single round (instantaneous?) effect

I'm thinking that the d) exception shouldn't exist, since it would allow abuse of things like 1/day re-roll items.
C isn't just damage. It could be a Nine Lives Stealer that deals negative levels, or a sword that teleports whomever you hit, etc. It just needs to happen automatically when you use the item. It also doesn't have to be a sword or weapon. If you have to tell it to work somehow (other than "using" it), it counts as attuned.

I think D is ruled out, unless the item automatically triggers whenever it is used, as above.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #1050 on: July 23, 2010, 01:07:09 AM »
So are we ready to go?
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #1051 on: July 23, 2010, 02:50:13 AM »
I think I'm okay (as far as my items go anyway).
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #1052 on: July 23, 2010, 03:06:03 AM »
I'm ready. As ready as I'll get, anyway. :)

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #1053 on: July 23, 2010, 06:09:25 AM »
I'm ready.

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #1054 on: July 23, 2010, 10:20:39 AM »
Yeah, me too.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #1055 on: July 26, 2010, 11:26:39 AM »
A Tome feat I found that would be perfect for Xuuvosic. :D

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This is a feat which scales to your ranks in Intimidate.
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4: Make My Money: You have a bunch of prostitutes which you can send out to stand on corners or something I don't want to know. You gain followers with a leadership score that is equal to your ranks in intimidate+Cha or Str mod, whichever is higher. in addition your wealth level is treated as one higher. (Not very much>Some>Lots>Mega Bucks>Scrooge Mcfuckenduck.)
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19: All Them Haters Hatin': You know they tryin' to catch you ridin' dirty. You now have an army of hoes maken' money.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #1056 on: July 28, 2010, 12:06:32 PM »
Waiting on you guys.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #1057 on: July 28, 2010, 12:55:39 PM »
Don't look at me, I'm the last one who posted in-game. :P

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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #1058 on: July 28, 2010, 05:57:00 PM »
go back through the fucking gate a second time to get it.
Something else I thought of after we discussed going through the gate more than once, if you guys "fail" the first time.

If you go through a second time, you're going to come out in the exact same place and time as the first time you went through. So you're going to almost certainly be right next to/on top of your duplicates, which as I mentioned before (at least in PMs to Kuro, and he mentioned this IC) is a Bad ThingTM. Xuuvosic would certainly know this, and know that going through the portal more than once is probably either impossible or suicide, if it does actually dump everyone out at the exact place and time in the past, as you've heard.

Just in case I didn't spell this out somewhere, except in PMs with Kuro: If you come within 1 mile of a time duplicate of yourself, both you and the duplicate will begin to experience painful headaches and other symptoms that will only worsen if you come closer together. The pain will intensify to the point where you won't be able to take any actions other than running away from the duplicate. Something spectacularly catastrophic happens if you and your duplicate manage to touch. (Yeah... I totally expect you guys to make bombs out of this somehow now...)

So going through the Time Portal twice probably isn't an option, unless you're tricky about it somehow.
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Re: Off-topic chatter
« Reply #1059 on: July 28, 2010, 06:23:17 PM »
Something spectacularly catastrophic happens if you and your duplicate manage to touch. (Yeah... I totally expect you guys to make bombs out of this somehow now...)
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Hands up: Who wants to see what happens?
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