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Half a CR?
« on: November 14, 2009, 04:40:08 PM »
So I was looking over the death knight, and saw that there was a template that could be added to it. The CR is +3, and has to be added to a creature of at least 6 HD. This makes it CR 9. You then add this other template which allows it to summon skeletons equal to its HD. So, you could have nine skeleton warriors at 1 HD each, or you could have a skeleton chimera at 9 HD, etc. This increases the death knight's CR by 1/2. I'm serious about this. How does that work? Your creature is CR 9.5, but aren't they usually an even number?
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Re: Half a CR?
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2009, 04:56:34 PM »
Well, just to name two, Goblins are CR 1/3, and Kobolds are CR 1/4 :)
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Re: Half a CR?
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2009, 04:58:56 PM »
Well, just to name two, Goblins are CR 1/3, and Kobolds are CR 1/4 :)
Oh I know that, as skeleton warriors are also 1/3 and zombie commoners are 1/2, but I'm talking about at higher levels. It's rare that you see goblins and kobolds by themselves. They're usually in a group, which means it stacks. But how many higher level creatures do you see at CR 2 1/2 or CR 33 1/3?
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Re: Half a CR?
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2009, 05:37:30 PM »
Well, just to name two, Goblins are CR 1/3, and Kobolds are CR 1/4 :)
Oh I know that, as skeleton warriors are also 1/3 and zombie commoners are 1/2, but I'm talking about at higher levels. It's rare that you see goblins and kobolds by themselves. They're usually in a group, which means it stacks. But how many higher level creatures do you see at CR 2 1/2 or CR 33 1/3?
I see your point :)

I can't think of any at the moment either.
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Re: Half a CR?
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2009, 05:41:09 PM »
I see your point :)

I can't think of any at the moment either.
About the only thing I can think of, and this is really reaching, is for something like this http://www.penpaperpixel.org/tools/d20encountercalculator.htm

The creature is CR 9.5 and when you input an average group of four ECL 8, and one ECL 7, you get 8.5 for party level. But again, that's really reaching for an answer.
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Re: Half a CR?
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2009, 04:51:22 PM »
Or it could be that cr is a guideline rather then an exact science and the +1/2 cr is there to let dms know that the template raises the difficulty a little, but not by much.

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Re: Half a CR?
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2009, 07:00:16 PM »
Or it could be that cr is a guideline rather then an exact science and the +1/2 cr is there to let dms know that the template raises the difficulty a little, but not by much.
i think that i agree with this.
additionally, if it comes out to be CR 9.5, then just take the average xp award between CR 9 and CR 10.   :shrug

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Re: Half a CR?
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2009, 08:51:52 PM »
I suppose so, yeah, but I'm also thinking of it in the same way that anyone with my DM would. That 1/2 a CR would be a full LA too. At least, that's how it would be seen. Not that I'm playing a death knight of anything (although with my luck I'll get killed by the one we're hunting down). It's just something that I wasn't sure about.
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Re: Half a CR?
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2009, 09:30:04 PM »
Anything that doesn't have a written la wasn't designed to be taken by players anyway.

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Re: Half a CR?
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2009, 09:31:24 PM »
Anything that doesn't have a written la wasn't designed to be taken by players anyway.
True, but that doesn't mean it can't be. If a death knight has a written LA, then a template for said death knight should be allowed for the player as well.
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Re: Half a CR?
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2009, 09:41:02 PM »
Not always.