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Re: Pathfinder Sorcerer advice
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2009, 06:27:58 PM »
It also means hauling around about 48 greatswords (or better yet: fullblades!  mm...fullblades...) if you want 4 summons to use them :P  But it might be worth it just once to make 48 attacks a round for a possible 96d8 =P
I think the best weapon for this winds up being the siangham, because they do 1d6 and you can scale them up to colossal and still be under the weight limit. :D

When increasing the size do I just keep doubling the weight? 1lb -> 2lbs ->4lbs ->8lbs ->16lbs?
Yeah, I think that's right, but I'm not 100% sure where that is stated. Armor doesn't actually scale like that, though.
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/armor.htm#armorForUnusualCreatures

The damage chart is here: http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/weapons.htm#weaponSize
So a colossal siangham would do 4d6, and weigh at most 16 lbs (or only 12 lbs if you use the chart for armor weight scaling).
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Re: Pathfinder Sorcerer advice
« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2009, 06:31:50 PM »
It also means hauling around about 48 greatswords (or better yet: fullblades!  mm...fullblades...) if you want 4 summons to use them :P  But it might be worth it just once to make 48 attacks a round for a possible 96d8 =P
I think the best weapon for this winds up being the siangham, because they do 1d6 and you can scale them up to colossal and still be under the weight limit. :D

When increasing the size do I just keep doubling the weight? 1lb -> 2lbs ->4lbs ->8lbs ->16lbs?
Yeah, I think that's right, but I'm not 100% sure where that is stated. Armor doesn't actually scale like that, though.
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/armor.htm#armorForUnusualCreatures

The damage chart is here: http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/weapons.htm#weaponSize
So a colossal siangham would do 4d6, and weigh at most 16 lbs (or only 12 lbs if you use the chart for armor weight scaling).
If you're able to make armor out of mythril to reduce the weight, would I able to do that to the weapons so I'm able to make them larger without exceeding the weight limit?

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Re: Pathfinder Sorcerer advice
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2009, 06:38:18 PM »
If you're able to make armor out of mythril to reduce the weight, would I able to do that to the weapons so I'm able to make them larger without exceeding the weight limit?
[/quote]Yeah but holy crap you're talking about dishing out a lot of money now... Non-magical weapons, even colossal ones, are still quite cheap. Mithril colossal weapons... not so much...
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Re: Pathfinder Sorcerer advice
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2009, 06:42:57 PM »
If you're able to make armor out of mythril to reduce the weight, would I able to do that to the weapons so I'm able to make them larger without exceeding the weight limit?
Yeah but holy crap you're talking about dishing out a lot of money now... Non-magical weapons, even colossal ones, are still quite cheap. Mithril colossal weapons... not so much...
[/quote] True. Just talked to the DM and he axed the siangham idea but he will allow me to throw arrows.

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Re: Pathfinder Sorcerer advice
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2009, 11:54:23 AM »
Alright, so I can enchant 50 arrows for the cost of enchanting a single weapon. Depending on how silly I get (how much money I spend) I have the potential for a lot of ammo. Besides the obvious choices for the extra d6 per arrow (extra 24d6 per round if I use both Vrocks), what else is there?

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« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2009, 11:59:54 AM »
Alright, so I can enchant 50 arrows for the cost of enchanting a single weapon. Depending on how silly I get (how much money I spend) I have the potential for a lot of ammo. Besides the obvious choices for the extra d6 per arrow (extra 24d6 per round if I use both Vrocks), what else is there?
Seeking and Bloodseeking (they'll ignore all cover and concealment, even flying around corners, etc). I'm not sure how that would work with Telekinesis, though.
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Re: Pathfinder Sorcerer advice
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2009, 12:06:18 PM »
Alright, so I can enchant 50 arrows for the cost of enchanting a single weapon. Depending on how silly I get (how much money I spend) I have the potential for a lot of ammo. Besides the obvious choices for the extra d6 per arrow (extra 24d6 per round if I use both Vrocks), what else is there?

Spellstoring  :lmao

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« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2009, 12:07:11 PM »
Alright, so I can enchant 50 arrows for the cost of enchanting a single weapon. Depending on how silly I get (how much money I spend) I have the potential for a lot of ammo. Besides the obvious choices for the extra d6 per arrow (extra 24d6 per round if I use both Vrocks), what else is there?

Spellstoring  :lmao
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Re: Pathfinder Sorcerer advice
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2009, 12:20:50 PM »
Alright, so I can enchant 50 arrows for the cost of enchanting a single weapon. Depending on how silly I get (how much money I spend) I have the potential for a lot of ammo. Besides the obvious choices for the extra d6 per arrow (extra 24d6 per round if I use both Vrocks), what else is there?

Spellstoring  :lmao
You're the best friend anyone could ever have

Especially if I store the spells pre-game in all 200 of the arrows XD

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« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2009, 12:25:47 PM »
Alright, so I can enchant 50 arrows for the cost of enchanting a single weapon. Depending on how silly I get (how much money I spend) I have the potential for a lot of ammo. Besides the obvious choices for the extra d6 per arrow (extra 24d6 per round if I use both Vrocks), what else is there?

Spellstoring  :lmao
You're the best friend anyone could ever have

Especially if I store the spells pre-game in all 200 of the arrows XD
I'm sure that was exactly his point.  :D
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Re: Pathfinder Sorcerer advice
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2009, 02:02:33 PM »
Alright, so I can enchant 50 arrows for the cost of enchanting a single weapon. Depending on how silly I get (how much money I spend) I have the potential for a lot of ammo. Besides the obvious choices for the extra d6 per arrow (extra 24d6 per round if I use both Vrocks), what else is there?

Spellstoring  :lmao
You're the best friend anyone could ever have

Especially if I store the spells pre-game in all 200 of the arrows XD
I'm sure that was exactly his point.  :D
Arrows of bestow curse and disintegrate? XD

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Re: Pathfinder Sorcerer advice
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2009, 02:09:59 PM »
Alright, so I can enchant 50 arrows for the cost of enchanting a single weapon. Depending on how silly I get (how much money I spend) I have the potential for a lot of ammo. Besides the obvious choices for the extra d6 per arrow (extra 24d6 per round if I use both Vrocks), what else is there?

Spellstoring  :lmao
You're the best friend anyone could ever have

Especially if I store the spells pre-game in all 200 of the arrows XD
I'm sure that was exactly his point.  :D
Arrows of bestow curse and disintegrate? XD
3rd level and below. So no Disintegrate.
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Re: Pathfinder Sorcerer advice
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2009, 02:13:03 PM »
Alright, so I can enchant 50 arrows for the cost of enchanting a single weapon. Depending on how silly I get (how much money I spend) I have the potential for a lot of ammo. Besides the obvious choices for the extra d6 per arrow (extra 24d6 per round if I use both Vrocks), what else is there?

Spellstoring  :lmao
You're the best friend anyone could ever have

Especially if I store the spells pre-game in all 200 of the arrows XD
I'm sure that was exactly his point.  :D
Arrows of bestow curse and disintegrate? XD
3rd level and below. So no Disintegrate.
I guess 24 15d6 fireballs in a single round will have to do :/
It just seems less fun though

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« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2009, 02:25:53 PM »
I guess 24 15d6 fireballs in a single round will have to do :/
It just seems less fun though
Go read the ability for god's sake. That won't work either. I'm not going to tell you why. Do your own homework.
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Re: Pathfinder Sorcerer advice
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2009, 02:37:46 PM »
I guess 24 15d6 fireballs in a single round will have to do :/
It just seems less fun though
Go read the ability for god's sake. That won't work either. I'm not going to tell you why. Do your own homework.
I must've glanced over the targeted part :/

EDIT: Now, I don't see why a spell like vampiric touch wouldn't work. The only thing is, would the hit points still be transferred to you even though you're not actually touching the person?
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Re: Pathfinder Sorcerer advice
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2009, 02:52:05 PM »
I guess 24 15d6 fireballs in a single round will have to do :/
It just seems less fun though
Go read the ability for god's sake. That won't work either. I'm not going to tell you why. Do your own homework.
I must've glanced over the targeted part :/
Sorry if I was a bit snippy. It's lunch time, and I'm hungry. I get grumpy when I'm hungry. :P
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Re: Pathfinder Sorcerer advice
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2009, 02:57:15 PM »
I guess 24 15d6 fireballs in a single round will have to do :/
It just seems less fun though
Go read the ability for god's sake. That won't work either. I'm not going to tell you why. Do your own homework.
I must've glanced over the targeted part :/
Sorry if I was a bit snippy. It's lunch time, and I'm hungry. I get grumpy when I'm hungry. :P
Perfectly fine, I should've been more observant  :D

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Re: Pathfinder Sorcerer advice
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2009, 03:13:18 PM »
I guess 24 15d6 fireballs in a single round will have to do :/
It just seems less fun though
Go read the ability for god's sake. That won't work either. I'm not going to tell you why. Do your own homework.
I must've glanced over the targeted part :/

EDIT: Now, I don't see why a spell like vampiric touch wouldn't work. The only thing is, would the hit points still be transferred to you even though you're not actually touching the person?
Yeah, that should work fine. It wouldn't be much different than applying the Reach Spell metamagic feat to it.

I'm not sure if the hit points would go to the caster, or the person who fired/threw the weapon, though. The Spell Storing description is not very clear on who "the caster" is. Some items explicitly say the person who uses them is (potions, for example).

It would be kind of crazy for a crafter to load up a bunch of Spell Storing weapons with Vampiric Touch before he sells them, and then gain temporary hit points at random times of the day for several weeks. :P
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Re: Pathfinder Sorcerer advice
« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2009, 10:00:22 PM »
Wow. I just looked at Pathfinder VT and they bumped the limit to 10d6 XD
Also, I think it's silly that the Dragon Disciple progresses all Sorcerer bloodlines. It should only progress draconic