Soulknife: can it work?

[Prime32]

Shame you can't use Weapons of Legacy - are there any WoLs in the books allowed? Because there's one ability which lets you treat the weapon as a mind blade.

Does Core include the SRD?

[snakeman830]

My guess is yes, because the Soulknife isn't actually in any of the listed books.

[awaken DM golem]

Another way is Soulknife 2 / Soulbow 1 / filler 4 / Monk 2 / Ardent 2 / Ur-Priest 2 / Psychic Theurge 7
Feats for qualifying, Practiced Manifester, the Soulknife upgrades, a recharge set-up, some more combat stuff on the Monk side, etc ...

iirc - "someone" did a Lock type build on soulknife, it's around here somewhere.

Your DM's houseruled feats at 4th+ levels, are very similar to one of the Mind's Eye Soulknife updates.

[InnaBinder]

Azurin Soulknife 8/Totemist 2/Soulbow 5/Illumine Soul 5, with a Manticore Belt.  Season to taste.  It's not uber, but it gets you a decent number of attacks from range.

[Operation Shoestring]

Azurin Soulknife 8/Totemist 2/Soulbow 5/Illumine Soul 5, with a Manticore Belt.  Season to taste.  It's not uber, but it gets you a decent number of attacks from range.

Manticore belt kinda defeats the point of being a soulbow.  Phase cloak is nifty though.

[InnaBinder]

Azurin Soulknife 8/Totemist 2/Soulbow 5/Illumine Soul 5, with a Manticore Belt.  Season to taste.  It's not uber, but it gets you a decent number of attacks from range.

Manticore belt kinda defeats the point of being a soulbow.  Phase cloak is nifty though.

Does it?  My reading gives extra ranged attacks.  Hmm.

[Operation Shoestring]

Azurin Soulknife 8/Totemist 2/Soulbow 5/Illumine Soul 5, with a Manticore Belt.  Season to taste.  It's not uber, but it gets you a decent number of attacks from range.

Manticore belt kinda defeats the point of being a soulbow.  Phase cloak is nifty though.

Does it?  My reading gives extra ranged attacks.  Hmm.

Manticore belt gives you X spine attacks at your full BAB as a standard action, where X = the essentia you invested.

It's completely separate from shooting soul-arrows.

[InnaBinder]

It's completely separate from shooting soul-arrows

I didn't say differently, but we're getting off-topic.

[snakeman830]

Not entirely.  Manticore Belt cannot be combined with Mind Arrows is all.  Because of that, I'll probably skip the Totemist.

[Brainpiercing]

Not entirely.  Manticore Belt cannot be combined with Mind Arrows is all.  Because of that, I'll probably skip the Totemist.

Unless you rule it as a natural ranged weapon and make secondary attacks with it... but I guess that would be a house-rule.

[Operation Shoestring]

Not entirely.  Manticore Belt cannot be combined with Mind Arrows is all.  Because of that, I'll probably skip the Totemist.

Unless you rule it as a natural ranged weapon and make secondary attacks with it... but I guess that would be a house-rule.

It explicitly takes a standard action.  That's rule revision, rather than a ruling.

[Bauglir]

Thus, a house-rule.

[KellKheraptis]

Okay, just got the acceptable sources list:

Core including PHB II
Completes
races of
Draconicon
Heroes of horror on a case by case basis
Libris mortis on a case by case basis
Dragon Magic
Fiendish Codex 2
Magic of Incarnium
Tome of magic
Spell compendium
Magic Item compendium

My annoyance is that "races of" apparently doesn't include "Races of Eberron" where the best Soulknife options are.

Fuck, I was about to suggest a PsyWar/Slayer with judicious use of Hustle and Spiritual Force, wearing Slippers of Battledancing, but that's out.  With a pumped Charisma and Cha to hit and damage twice, that sounds like it could actually add up.  Throw in expansion for more reach, maybe Power Attack and a means of touch attacking (though focus is used up by Spiritual Force, so kinda depends which would add more).  You could also go Dragoon with it kinda, using Leap Attack, Power Attack, and Deep Impact (or whatever the melee one is to make it a touch attack) and then add arms as is possible.  Totemist would be really handy for that, pun intended, since then you basically Lion Leap Achilles style through enemies.  Not really optimizing a mindblade per se, as the technique is borked for anyone, but it does vastly increase a Soulknife's damage output

[PhaedrusXY]

With the bonus feats and full BAB, an "uber-charger" might be a decent way to go.

[KellKheraptis]

With the bonus feats and full BAB, an "uber-charger" might be a decent way to go.

What's the stacking on ML like with Psionics in general?  I think it might be my limited depth of knowledge on the subject, but I'm trying to figure out if all classes granting an ML stack for overall ML, kinda like initiators, or if I'm confusing that with the power point pool, which is one pool for all classes.  If they are both fully integrated, that would open up a LOT of options for Psionics.

[Lycanthromancer]

With the bonus feats and full BAB, an "uber-charger" might be a decent way to go.

What's the stacking on ML like with Psionics in general?  I think it might be my limited depth of knowledge on the subject, but I'm trying to figure out if all classes granting an ML stack for overall ML, kinda like initiators, or if I'm confusing that with the power point pool, which is one pool for all classes.  If they are both fully integrated, that would open up a LOT of options for Psionics.

Manifester levels don't stack at all. They're kept separate. However, power points gained from any source all go into a single pool.

I'd consider using a psychic warrior variant.

That, or take the Item Familiar (mind-blade) feat. It can't be permanently destroyed, and you can't lose it.

Also consider going warforged (assuming you can convince your DM that it's as awesome as it really is). You can use the extra AC from the Adamantine Body feat, and that body-armor and natural attack (slam) will save you the money you'll need for the magic items you'll need to survive. The immunities aren't bad at all, either.

[KellKheraptis]

With the bonus feats and full BAB, an "uber-charger" might be a decent way to go.

What's the stacking on ML like with Psionics in general?  I think it might be my limited depth of knowledge on the subject, but I'm trying to figure out if all classes granting an ML stack for overall ML, kinda like initiators, or if I'm confusing that with the power point pool, which is one pool for all classes.  If they are both fully integrated, that would open up a LOT of options for Psionics.

Manifester levels don't stack at all. They're kept separate. However, power points gained from any source all go into a single pool.

I'd consider using a psychic warrior variant.

That, or take the Item Familiar (mind-blade) feat. It can't be permanently destroyed, and you can't lose it.

Also consider going warforged (assuming you can convince your DM that it's as awesome as it really is). You can use the extra AC from the Adamantine Body feat, and that body-armor and natural attack (slam) will save you the money you'll need for the magic items you'll need to survive. The immunities aren't bad at all, either.

Given the usefulness all around of an Item Familiar...does that also allow a non-PsyWar/Soulknife to use a mindblade?

[snakeman830]

All Soulknifes can use a Mind Blade.  That's kind of all they can do as written.

[KellKheraptis]

All Soulknifes can use a Mind Blade.  That's kind of all they can do as written.

Sorry, wasn't very clear : non-PsyWar, non-soulknife.  As in can this be ass-ended onto an Erudite or Psion?

[Lycanthromancer]

All Soulknifes can use a Mind Blade.  That's kind of all they can do as written.

Sorry, wasn't very clear : non-PsyWar, non-soulknife.  As in can this be ass-ended onto an Erudite or Psion?

Well, any manifester can get access to the call weaponry power, though I'm fairly sure it's a different weapon each time you call it, unless your DM rules otherwise.

So...maybe.