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Alastar

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alright, this is a new game by a DM who, although not an optimiser per say, still has a firm grasp of the rules.  We decided to put in some low optimisation standards, like no full casters, and the theme is military based.

So, I decided to do a time-ninja, just like the ensigerum from www.errantstory.com.

Here's the build:

Starting level is 6

Ninja 1/Battle Sorcerer 4/Unseen Seer 2/Swiftblade 10/Unseen Seer **OR** arcane trickster 2/Ninja +1 (for 16 bab)

Feats:
lvl1 Craven (Normal), Power Attack (Human), Desert wind dodge (Flaw), Mobility (Flaw)
Lvl3: Ascetic Mage (retooled for ninja)
Level 6: Practiced Spellcaster
Level 7: Silent spell (bonus)
Level 8: spring attack (bonus)

From here on out, i don't want to plan too much, don't know what to take, have SOME ideas...

- Force needle
- Arcane Strike


Race so far is human for the feat.

Need some good level 1 divination spells for a sorcerer though....

Hesitating on the whole ninja ascetic mage thing too, although I DO like the feat... maybe abrupt jaunting with a conjurer and the first level being factotum would be better in the end... but i'm kinda tired of playing wizards and Int types, i would prefer the charisma type.

Anyhow, ideas of spells, feats, or other ways to do it, please tell me ! :)

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Re: Time Ninja (ensigerum) concept, need some help tweaking things out.
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2009, 04:25:58 PM »
Swiftblade. The ensigerum have always screamed swiftblade to me.
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They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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Re: Time Ninja (ensigerum) concept, need some help tweaking things out.
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2009, 04:30:16 PM »
Yah, i have 10 levels of it in my build :)

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Re: Time Ninja (ensigerum) concept, need some help tweaking things out.
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2009, 04:38:58 PM »
I'm blind :(
[Spoiler]
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
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Re: Time Ninja (ensigerum) concept, need some help tweaking things out.
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2009, 08:38:41 PM »
Unseen seer has 3/4 bab.  Arcane trickster has 1/2 BAB.

3 from 4 levels of Battle Sorc + 3 from 4 levels of Unseen Seer + 10 from Swiftblade levels = 16 BAB.

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Alastar

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Re: Time Ninja (ensigerum) concept, need some help tweaking things out.
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2009, 10:26:14 PM »
True, more spellcasting then!!!

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Re: Time Ninja (ensigerum) concept, need some help tweaking things out.
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2009, 12:19:07 PM »
From here on out, i don't want to plan too much, don't know what to take, have SOME ideas...

- Force needle
- Arcane Strike

Force needle isn't ranged touch.  Acid Splatter is though (same book).  I'm assuming you want this for unlimited touch sneak attacks?
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Re: Time Ninja (ensigerum) concept, need some help tweaking things out.
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2009, 12:24:11 PM »
So in the spirit of "low-optimzation" and "no full casters" you opted for 16 BAB, 16 Caster level, sneak attacker gish? I mean, I guess... that qualifies...

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Re: Time Ninja (ensigerum) concept, need some help tweaking things out.
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2009, 12:31:00 PM »
If it aint got level 9 spells, it aint optimised bro  :eh

Force needle adds 1 to the damage of my glaive for my highest level force spell right, so if i have forcecage that's +7 damage to all my attacks.  That's why I want it.

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Re: Time Ninja (ensigerum) concept, need some help tweaking things out.
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2009, 01:12:55 PM »
If it aint got level 9 spells, it aint optimised bro  :eh

I kid, I kid. Plus, anyway, it is a Battle Sorcerer/Ninja gish. :p

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Re: Time Ninja (ensigerum) concept, need some help tweaking things out.
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2009, 01:19:24 PM »
I know ;) hehhe

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Re: Time Ninja (ensigerum) concept, need some help tweaking things out.
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2009, 01:53:57 PM »
If it aint got level 9 spells, it aint optimised bro  :eh

Force needle adds 1 to the damage of my glaive for my highest level force spell right, so if i have forcecage that's +7 damage to all my attacks.  That's why I want it.
Blade of Force is the reserve feat you're looking for then, not Invisible Needle.
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Re: Time Ninja (ensigerum) concept, need some help tweaking things out.
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2009, 01:55:50 PM »
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well YOU'RE UGLY, is the reserve feat YOU'RE looking for!!!!



thanks :)