Author Topic: Please help and rate this TOB build (Read 3218 times)

SwordDisciple · « **on:** October 21, 2009, 10:01:19 PM »

So I'm getting a chance to play in a near epic campaign.. And I've had this idea

He will be an infiltrator type character. Thus far he looks like:

Changeling Lvl 18
Swordsage 3/Monk(Cobra Strike) 2/Warblade 2/Warshaper 4/Master of the Nine 5

Stats in order (after levels but pre boosts): 14, 21, 18, 14, 16, 8

With the following abilities:
Uncanny Dodge, AC Bonus, Flurry of Blows, Evasion, Morphic Features, Morphic Immunities, Morphic Weapons, Morphic Body, Morphic Reach, Morphic Healing, Quick to Act, Discipline Focus, Weapon Focus, Battle Clarity, Weapon Aptitude, Dual Stance, Perfect Form, Counter Stance, Master of Nine.

With the following feats:
Blind-Fight, Combat Reflexes, Dodge, Mobility, Improved Initiative, Improved Unarmed Strike, Two-Weapon Fighting, Weapon Focus, Adaptive Style, Shadow Blade

Is this an ok build and what Magic Items/Maneuvers do you think I should have? I'm looking for any and all ideas/suggestions??

Balmas · « **Reply #1 on:** October 21, 2009, 10:06:23 PM »

Are the levels as you wrote them placed in the order you're gaining them? This could influence which maneuvers you get for warblade, since IL is half your character level+that specific martial adept level. Also, to which class will Master of the Nine apply?

SwordDisciple · « **Reply #2 on:** October 21, 2009, 10:08:48 PM »

Yes they are in the order in which I shall take them

Master of Nine will apply to Swordsage

Thanks

Lycanthromancer · « **Reply #3 on:** October 21, 2009, 11:06:11 PM »

You ought to take the Carmendine Monk feat for Int to AC, then buy some items to boost your Dex, Int, and Wis into the sky...

See if you can't get Con, Str, and Cha to AC as well.

bearsarebrown · « **Reply #4 on:** October 21, 2009, 11:10:41 PM »

Monk is Wis to AC is no armor.
Swordsage is Wis to AC is light armor. Not light armor or less.

Just saying.

duncandun · « **Reply #5 on:** October 22, 2009, 12:23:48 AM »

terrible BAB but i spose that isn't super important.

SwordDisciple · « **Reply #6 on:** October 22, 2009, 12:34:35 AM »

Ahh..

I hadn't noticed the AC bonus for Swordsage didn't count unless you lightly armoured.. Ouch. But I was really taking monk for the bonus feats (easier access to MON) and evasion.

BAB is fractional which makes that up a little

How can I make this better? From what I can see he's not really going to hit very hard

duncandun · « **Reply #7 on:** October 22, 2009, 01:21:36 AM »

Quote from: SwordDisciple on October 22, 2009, 12:34:35 AM

Ahh..

I hadn't noticed the AC bonus for Swordsage didn't count unless you lightly armoured.. Ouch. But I was really taking monk for the bonus feats (easier access to MON) and evasion.

BAB is fractional which makes that up a little

How can I make this better? From what I can see he's not really going to hit very hard

Hmm, souldrinking and greater wounding on your fists? /shrug

Brainpiercing · « **Reply #8 on:** October 22, 2009, 01:47:23 PM »

Warshaper technically does not limit the number of weapons you can create, AFAIK. So get Multiattack.

There aren't really many useful maneuvers to take with lots of attacks. Raging Mongoose and Time Stands Still are the staples. Can you get a source of Pouncing?

Seppuku · « **Reply #9 on:** October 22, 2009, 03:27:28 PM »

What about soul eater? turn those extra attacks into extra negative levels? Helps w/BAB"?

Hallack · « **Reply #10 on:** October 22, 2009, 06:41:19 PM »

Quote from: SwordDisciple on October 22, 2009, 12:34:35 AM

Ahh..

I hadn't noticed the AC bonus for Swordsage didn't count unless you lightly armoured.. Ouch. But I was really taking monk for the bonus feats (easier access to MON) and evasion.

BAB is fractional which makes that up a little

How can I make this better? From what I can see he's not really going to hit very hard

Wasn't the whole light armor/no armor thing fixed via errata? Or was it just that most understand and go beyond the words on that particular bit and follow some likely RAI sense?

Endarire · « **Reply #11 on:** October 24, 2009, 06:03:36 AM »

Adding MoN maneuvers to your Warblade list is probably better since you can use a turn (a swift then full round action) to (full) attack and recover maneuvers.

Shologar · « **Reply #12 on:** October 28, 2009, 03:50:31 PM »

Quote from: Hallack on October 22, 2009, 06:41:19 PM

Wasn't the whole light armor/no armor thing fixed via errata? Or was it just that most understand and go beyond the words on that particular bit and follow some likely RAI sense?

I am pretty sure that it was answered by CS and/or Sage and that indeed it was supposed to be in Light or no armor.

JaronK · « **Reply #13 on:** October 28, 2009, 07:48:56 PM »

Quote from: Hallack on October 22, 2009, 06:41:19 PM

Wasn't the whole light armor/no armor thing fixed via errata? Or was it just that most understand and go beyond the words on that particular bit and follow some likely RAI sense?

IIRC there was simply a statement (probably in the Sage stuff) that said the intent was for Swordsage AC to work in light or no armor, but that it was also intended not to stack with Monk AC. So either you plan strict RAW and say they can't stack because Swordsage AC only works in Light Armor, or you play by RAI in which case you can have your Swordsage AC bonus without armor but they don't stack anyway. By no valid interpretation do the Swordsage and Monk ACs stack.

JaronK

Aliment · « **Reply #14 on:** October 28, 2009, 09:31:54 PM »

But would it stack if we were unarmored and had Carmedine Monk? So +dex+wis+int+no armor or shield? Oh and then Deep warden and VoP.

Giblets · « **Reply #15 on:** October 29, 2009, 05:37:50 AM »

What book is this carmedine monk in?

DetectiveJabsco · « **Reply #16 on:** October 29, 2009, 10:19:14 AM »

also, fist of th forest for ac shenanigans

Hallack · « **Reply #17 on:** October 29, 2009, 10:46:26 AM »

Quote from: Giblets on October 29, 2009, 05:37:50 AM

What book is this carmedine monk in?

Dragon Magazine I believe but am not sure. Not a variant used in my group as we don't use Dragon.

DetectiveJabsco · « **Reply #18 on:** October 29, 2009, 10:52:09 AM »

Carmendine Monk is a feat from Champions of Valor p.28

Hallack · « **Reply #19 on:** October 29, 2009, 11:09:51 AM »

Ah, thanks. That's why I wasn't sure. My group doesn't use FR material either.

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